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Random number generator - a "new" idea

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posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 05:16 PM
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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Aazadan

The point is through that a random number generation system based on an algorithm can be considered to be deterministic hence it is not random really.


Most processes don't need non deterministic input, they work better when it's not. For the handful of things that do, there are already systems that can create it.




posted on Oct, 18 2018 @ 03:21 AM
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Printing paper.. is this like a cash return on nothing and nothingness does arise out of the ashes of nothing.. which are more certain than secretaries..

Randomness fits the category of randomness.. thus is it contained and part of cause and effect..

Means it is a leading number.. but it still extended from something..release is a near to blank or rewritten dossier.. blank written writ.. in plain prose! James Bond lives now and forever.. as Batman.. in the Bat Cave.. with a Bat Mobile! I call Batman to save us and this firum.. and this life ststement.. sectet society of shadows.. leagues of nations are in telief of the national finan e crisis..o clark



posted on Oct, 18 2018 @ 06:05 AM
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a reply to: Aazadan

Those systems function by repeatedly sampling a randomly varying signal to generate a series of random numbers.

Generating a truly random number via software, however, is to my knowledge, still not possible.

"Anyone who considers arithmetical methods of producing random digits is, of course, in a state of sin.” John von Neumann.



posted on Oct, 18 2018 @ 06:18 AM
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a reply to: andy06shake

I think the reason some experimenters have claimed they were able to reverse entropy in threshold situations is that the energy accounting would require a lower threshold analysis.

Its like an antistokes cooling analysis not factoring in the fluorescent radiation which ends up outside the box.



posted on Oct, 18 2018 @ 06:35 AM
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a reply to: Cauliflower

"I think the reason some experimenters have claimed they were able to reverse entropy in threshold situations is that the energy accounting would require a lower threshold analysis."

Does the reversal symmetry hold through with time-invariance regarding the reversal of entropy?

To be honest entropy and thermodynamics is a little above my ability to comprehend.

Far as i can establish when milk is spilled it can’t flow back up into the glass, and when pots are broken, their pieces cant miraculously shatter back together.

Then again down there amongst the quantum foam time and entropy may function rather differently than they do in the macroverse we inhabit.
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posted on Oct, 18 2018 @ 07:03 AM
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a reply to: andy06shake

Correct, via software it's not possible, but plenty of hardware can do it.



posted on Oct, 19 2018 @ 01:20 PM
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Here are 10 random hex numbers:

7b d8 38 1e 93 cb 58 71 6e 07



posted on Oct, 28 2018 @ 07:21 AM
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You are implying the RNG's are not really random. Well, here is an example of someone using the random number generators to find global patterns, kind of opposite of what you are asking and proposing in the thread, that a RNG isn't truly random. Or is that a conundrum of sorts ?

Have you read up on the Global Consciousness Project ? They are using a series of RNG's placed around the world in various locations which they call EGGs in order to capture data to find global patterns to prove or not prove that there is something to the theory of a Global Consciousness.

In this experiment they are using a-lot of RNG's at the same time, would this not fix your issue on being truly random ? Ooh maybe not, because it appears they have proven the theory of global consciousness to a certain degree. Patterned hits develop on a continual basis on these RNG EGGs placed around the world. They found repeated patterns it seems. Not only did they find repeated patterns, but they discovered a global consciousness occurring just before the worldwide events occur as if the global consciousness was subconsciously aware of the events before they even happen.

They are using the following type of generator


"We begin with the easy part. The measurement relies on small changes in the behavior of an electronic device designed to produce a random output. A random event generator, or REG, as used for the GCP data collection, is essentially a high-speed electronic coin flipper. Instead of heads and tails, the REG produces + or - pulses relative to a mean value, and these pulses are converted into 1’s and 0’s, the bits that are the language of computers. The bits can be counted, and stored as samples from a well understood mathematical distribution of random numbers. The device also is often called a random number generator (RNG), which is a name given to computer programs that produce "pseudo" random numbers. The REG and RNG devices used in the GCP are hardware sources of "true" random events — fundamentally unpredictable 1’s and 0’s.

There are three different random event or random number generators in use in the GCP network. They are all electronic and their different sources of "white noise" all depend on completely unpredictable quantum fluctuations. The PEAR REG is based on Johnson noise, the extremely low-level fluctuations in electron flow in a resistor due to thermal influences. It has a built-in logic transformation (XOR) of every other bit from 1 to 0 or vice versa, to eliminate in principle any bias of the mean output of the device. The MICROREG uses a Field-Effect Transistor (FET) for the white noise, and also has an XOR stage, in this case with a table of all bytes with equal numbers of 1 and 0. The ORION uses two diodes, each independently producing a random bitstream and in this case the two output signals are XOR’ed against each other. The Orions have no built-in protection against bias, so a computed XOR is imposed for this type in the egg software. "



So If I am reading this correctly they are using multiple RNG's an random types of measurements. & I do see a truly random result occurring, the fact that they detect patterns in global consciousness ahead of the actual event to me is truly random.

How The Measurement Works

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