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Republican Club Vandalized Before Visit by Gavin McInnes

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posted on Oct, 13 2018 @ 05:58 PM
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originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: Blaine91555




Embellishing the truth only makes things worse.


Opinion is not anything but embellishment at times

Trying to play favorites makes it hard on all of us. The Proud Boys, Antifa - call it what it is. Without bias



You are making excuses for violence, I have been saying there is no excuse for violence except for self defense!! You have a lot of ballz bringing up being biased!




posted on Oct, 13 2018 @ 06:00 PM
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a reply to: seeker1963




You are making excuses for violence


Show me where - if you think you can

:-)



posted on Oct, 13 2018 @ 06:05 PM
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a reply to: Spiramirabilis

That I've had my fill of both sides goes without saying.

Antifa is not a part of either side and that is the truth. They want to take down the whole country, not just the Right or Left parts of it.



posted on Oct, 13 2018 @ 06:09 PM
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originally posted by: Blaine91555
a reply to: Spiramirabilis

That I've had my fill of both sides goes without saying.

Antifa is not a part of either side and that is the truth. They want to take down the whole country, not just the Right or Left parts of it.


Antifa "may" not be part of the left (?) but the left sure as heck uses Antifa.

They capitalize on it.

Like this thread. Senseless vandalism of private property and we're not even talking about it any more.

Instead, the leftists are obfuscating and changing the narrative so that "proud boys" are the topic.



posted on Oct, 13 2018 @ 06:09 PM
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originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: seeker1963




You are making excuses for violence


Show me where - if you think you can

:-)


Every time you argued with me! I believe people have a right to defend themselves! YOU DON'T! If I wore a T shirt in public with a swastika on it? Would that give anyone the right to assault me? They may not like my T-shirt but it sure as hell doesn't give them the right to try and assault me. On the flip side, just so you understand where I am coming from, if some one is wearing a rainbow T shirt supporting LGBTQRST rights, and it offended someone, would they have a right to assault them???

Get over your BS! Violence is wrong no matter where it comes from unless it is in self defense!



posted on Oct, 13 2018 @ 06:12 PM
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a reply to: Blaine91555




That I've had my fill of both sides goes without saying.


You and me both Blaine. That is heartfelt



Antifa is not a part of either side and that is the truth. They want to take down the whole country, not just the Right or Left parts of it.


I will disagree with this a little. I see what they see - in part. But, they will bring the whole country down regardless - it won't matter in the end what they believe. Or what any of us believe

The irony of all of this is that in the end we all mostly want the same things

It's all hands on deck I think now. Words are important. Precision in our language and an honest attempt at communication is all we have left if we're going to turn this around



posted on Oct, 13 2018 @ 06:14 PM
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a reply to: seeker1963

it's strange that people are seeing someone flicking a hat off a person's head (it is by the way) as assault, but so many were trying to portray pushing a girl onto a bed, laying on her, rubbing against her in sexual ways while his drunken buddy jumps on top of the two was just kids playing around...
"oh we're sure he didn't do it, but even if he did, it was just kid's playing around"....



posted on Oct, 13 2018 @ 06:14 PM
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a reply to: seeker1963



Every time you argued with me!


I haven't argued with you once

:-)


Violence is wrong no matter where it comes from unless it is in self defense!


Do you think stealing a hat deserves a beating?



posted on Oct, 13 2018 @ 06:15 PM
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a reply to: Blaine91555




McInnes has carried it too far, but Antifa and the Anarchists are the enemy of all of us, Right and Left. The Proud Boys exist because of them and their ilk. When those in power fail to deal with domestic terrorism for political reasons, this is the end result. We always reap what we sow.


That's it, in a nutshell. I don't like McInnes, and his proud boys, they're hooligans and far too many of them are, at best, borderline bigots. Neither do I like these Anti-FA morons, for much the same reasons, oddly enough.



posted on Oct, 13 2018 @ 06:17 PM
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a reply to: Lumenari

Anarchists do not equal Leftists, Democrats, or Liberals. They're anarchists.



posted on Oct, 13 2018 @ 06:38 PM
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originally posted by: seeker1963

originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
I do support those who have the balls to defend themselves from those committing acts of violence.





as do i

but if my friend gets his hat knocked off his head then me, him and another is not me defending myself now is it?

do you not see the difference?

i am not talking about defending yourself. imo you always have the right to defend yourself or your family if someone lays hands on you. of course

if someone lays hands on your buddy it is not for you to jump on the dude.

if the person that got his hat knocked off his head can not handle it then it should not be handled anyone else save for the cops



posted on Oct, 13 2018 @ 06:44 PM
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originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: Blaine91555




Embellishing the truth only makes things worse.


Opinion is not anything but embellishment at times

Trying to play favorites makes it hard on all of us. The Proud Boys, Antifa - call it what it is. Without bias


OK, I will. Proud Boys are men who have chosen not to be victims and will aggressively defend themselves. ANTIFAP are antagonistic provocateur cowards who hide behind masks and liberal pandering politicians and the cops who work for said liberal pandering politicians. Proud Boys are Murica, ANTIFAP are bitches.



posted on Oct, 13 2018 @ 06:44 PM
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originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: TinySickTears


imo people that think like you and burdman are every bit as nasty and dangerous as these other punk types that knock hats off peoples heads or try to silence people because they dont agree with their point of view.


Yes

They've proven that they don't mind the violence, in fact they fully approve. They are down with angry mobs. They support the Proud Boys

They don't support Antifa - not because they are an angry violent mob, but because they don't share the same ideology


thats how i see it too
seems pretty clear to me


they say over and over again actions have consequences. they will condemn some if their view does not fit with theirs.

i go back to the thread about the guy that kicked that chicks camera out of her hand and caught her dome.
these guys were all tough with that #.

various comments like no man will hit a woman while i am around.
real men dont hit women.... many of them said that

apparently real men dont hit women but real men do gang up on people 3 to 1 cause of a #ing hat

on this topic they keep saying things like defending yourself or defending your property

well a building you dont own that gets its window busted out hours early is not your property
your friend is not yourself
your friends hat is not your property

then they will twist it like i am defending the window break or the hat thing. i am not.
it is absolutely not ok. 100% not ok

i am just far more interested in the cowboys that admit to being fans of disproportionate responses..

and i will say again

these cowboy types are every bit as nasty, ugly, violent and bully like as the people breaking the window or knocking the hat.

2 sides of the same coin

my opinion

the war is coming
the war is coming

keep hearing that too

again, just my opinion but i dont think they want things to get better. i really dont
i think they want things to continue down the same path so soon enough they can be justified in going full cowboy

its just what i think

could be wrong

hope i am wrong

but they are fans of disproportionate responses



posted on Oct, 13 2018 @ 06:46 PM
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originally posted by: seeker1963

originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: Blaine91555




Embellishing the truth only makes things worse.


Opinion is not anything but embellishment at times

Trying to play favorites makes it hard on all of us. The Proud Boys, Antifa - call it what it is. Without bias



You are making excuses for violence, I have been saying there is no excuse for violence except for self defense!! You have a lot of ballz bringing up being biased!


defending the window of a building you dont own or jumping 3 to 1 on a guy who knocked the hat off another guy is not self defense

so are you lying?

i dont understand



posted on Oct, 13 2018 @ 06:49 PM
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a reply to: TinySickTears

Will the punk knock someone's hat off again? No? Then it seems an effective solution to a problem was reached, ya?
edit on 13-10-2018 by burdman30ott6 because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 13 2018 @ 06:51 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

I'm not big on the idea of blaming all of the Left for the actions of the extreme Left. Two wrongs don't make a right is redundant but true.

Its the extremists with the microphone that are the problem. Not the average Democrat. Same on the Right, it's not the average Republican who is the problem.

We need to separate the radicals in our thinking and if neither side is willing to do so, both are wrong. It just turns it into a never ending game of ping pong.



posted on Oct, 13 2018 @ 06:51 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6




OK, I will. Proud Boys are men who have chosen not to be victims and will aggressively defend themselves. ANTIFAP are antagonistic provocateur cowards who hide behind masks and liberal pandering politicians and the cops who work for said liberal pandering politicians. Proud Boys are Murica, ANTIFAP are bitches.


That's all I'm saying - be honest. At least, and if nothing else be honest



posted on Oct, 13 2018 @ 06:53 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: TinySickTears

Willtell the punk knock someone's hat off again? No? Then it seems an effective solution to a problem was reached, ya?


no he probably wont

does not change my opinion

its just not how i like to operate
why didnt the murica tough guy handle it on his own you think?

a beat down is a beat down...

lots of guys are tough when its 3 on 1

yes, they probably got a result.... does not change the fact theyre a bunch of punks

the hat dude too. for sure

just didnt think 'real men' ganged up on people 3 to 1

sounds like the precise act of a coward to me

just know i never once defended the hat dude or the window break and never once denied the beat probably got the needed result.
that is not my interest in this

i guess i am wrong for making assumptions
after all the talk of how real men act in that thread about the dude clocking the chick i just didnt think all you real men would think a 3 to 1 hospital job was the act of real men

seems pretty cowardly to me
edit on 13-10-2018 by TinySickTears because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 13 2018 @ 06:59 PM
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originally posted by: crtrvt
McInnes should be jailed as well as his angry racist proud boy gang jumping people. Not one word about that though, right? Keep on with the propaganda.




McInnes claimed on Instagram that the event would feature a recreation of the 1960 assassination of Japanese socialist leader Inejiro Asanuma. Video of Asanuma’s gruesome on-stage slaying during a speech, which was carried out by a nationalist teenager stabbing him with a traditional sword, is a popular clip on far-right internet forums. McInnes arrived at the event brandishing a sword, in apparent reference to Asanuma’s murder.







Someone should get those proud boys some pink pussy hats, what a bunch of unhinged idiots.



posted on Oct, 13 2018 @ 07:08 PM
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a reply to: Blaine91555

Thing is, it's turned into a fight.

Regardless who started it.

It's now a fight. And you don't bring a spork to a gun fight.

You don't play fair.

You don't be civil.

You fight to win.




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