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Turkey and the US make political capital from murdered journalist

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posted on Oct, 13 2018 @ 06:14 AM
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This is to try and explain why Turkey is regularly part of the news , or why it is a critical state in the East West divide . It introduces the concept of political capital , in this case mainly reputational capital, for Turkey and the US and Saudi Arabia regarding the case of Jamal Ksshmoggi.

In the world today you have two competing co-operation organisations , two economic and military conglomerates, roughly defined as the East and the West , and these two fight proxy wars in the contested states , which neighbour each other's overall jurisdiction , (for example Ukraine, Vietnam , Korea , Afghanistan , Iraq , Yemen , Syria, Venezuela , Brazil (these two are part of the Eastern alliance)) , and they struggle internally in certain countries to wrest control of political power .
A good example is the attempted coup in Turkey . Libya was a swing state and suffered its recent destruction because of gaining ties to the East , crucially upsetting the influence of the West in northern Africa . Africa itself is a general battleground between East and West , the West having already lost South Africa to the lure of alliance with BRICASTI (the East) .

Think about Turkey :

Joining Nato in 1952 anchored Turkey to the West. Thirteen years ago, it started negotiations to join the European Union. But as relations with both have deteriorated, Turkey has realigned itself, towards Russia and some Middle Eastern neighbours, which don't criticise the plummeting state of democracy here. And that is serious. In trade, security and military might, Turkey is too important for the West to lose.

Anti-US rhetoric Pro-government media hammers home the message on a regular basis, one recent editorial screaming that the US is Turkey's new enemy and that people should besiege the US military base here. A recent poll suggested that two-thirds of Turks see the US as their biggest threat. "The relationship is probably the worst since 1974 - since the Cyprus crisis," says Unal Cevikoz, a former Turkish ambassador to London. "It matters because Turkey is in a neighbourhood where we have so many problems and they all have repercussions for Europe. The new members of Nato and the EU are concerned about Russian advances in Ukraine and Crimea. Nato needs solidarity - and that depends on good relations between Turkey and the United States."

The West has ties , alliances , control, with other middle East states such as Saudi Arabia , Israel , UAE , and formerly , Turkey .

Now bringing the topic up to date , bearing in mind you've had a mere skim of information about what the world situation is ,
Turkey has evidence that Jamal KAshmoggi , the journalist was killed in the Saudi embassy inside Turkey : this amounts to pure political capital for Turkey as representing the East - a chance to demonstrate the wickedness and double standards of the Saudi dictatorship . Others are turning the news into political capital of their own , eg Trump getting a pastor accused and detained in Turkey for being part of the coup attempt (orchestrated by the West ) out of Turkey in an apparent exchange for appeals to the US over the Kashmoggi incident, which he denies . You want some political capital? - then dish me out mine first . Further significant others are refusing to attend a financial summit in Saudi , painting themselves in a humanitarian and sympathetic light , while Richard Branson is pulling out of his tourism deal in Saudi . All protecting their own interests in the light of certain bad press

All this amounts to telling double standards, and political capital grabbing, from all sides , Turkey has slaughtered/purged Kurds in numbers while the US said little about this attack on this people they used as advantageous then abandoned , the US & EU dont want to fall out with Turkey too badly , so they're listening while the Turks declare their evidence about Kamal , but unwilling to punish Saudi Arabia . And how about those walkers away from the finance conference ? They know full well that Saudi is a repressive and brutal country to live in , but now they look bad , with evidence to boot , they're cutting ties post haste . At least the Saudis , if you annoy them , will just blend you , although we've yet to see any journalists there clamouring for a reaction from the crown prince .

Turkey who probably do have evidence of murder inside the saudi consulate , gained from an apple watch Kamal used , are likely going to bleed this story out , every piece will touch nerves within the West while damaging the reputations of Saudi and the US and calling questions over their ties .
edit on 13-10-2018 by DoctorBluechip because: make readable

posted on Oct, 13 2018 @ 06:17 AM
That's a sideways logic view of fundamental global facts

posted on Oct, 13 2018 @ 06:41 AM
a reply to: GBP/JPY

On the contrary it's extrospective reasoning .
Likely misconstrued in parts , but writing perhaps or maybe all the time gets long winded
It's definitely badly explained
edit on 13-10-2018 by DoctorBluechip because: (no reason given)

posted on Oct, 13 2018 @ 08:28 AM
a reply to: DoctorBluechip

If I were on a conspiracy site, I would almost say the USA is being setup as the next villain on the world stage. The political leaders are complicit in not demonizing the USA while their citizens are getting more and more upset. When the time comes, all the politicians need to do is suddenly pretend to understand what their citizens are expressing, flip to be 'nationalistic' and a new world wide villain has been created, us.

We go around killing people in sovereign countries the world over. If we are not directly killing them, then we are supplying them with weapons of mass destruction so when a bus full of children get bombed, our signature is still on the ordnance. We support countries that commit as many mass atrocities as we do and we just ignore the cries of injustice.

It would be the perfect next step in this global theater. I have wondered why we are tied at the hip to the chosen people for a long time now. If there is any one group that have been used throughout history, it is them. We are pouring gasoline on ourselves with every death we enable. I wonder if we will stop before it is too late.

posted on Oct, 13 2018 @ 08:34 AM
I think you painted a picture that's fairly accurate overall and has explanatory power for what we're seeing.

No good guys here anywhere you look except for maybe the Kurds. Always pisses me off how we've let them down.

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posted on Oct, 13 2018 @ 01:54 PM
a reply to: DoctorBluechip
Half of the threads I post are centered around this global shifting of alliances. From Russians activity in Libya from an old Soviet base in Egypt, to severing cooperation with Pakistan and turkey's discreet expansion along the red Sea down to Somali . You should browse some of my threads and see where we can coordinate our findings.

posted on Oct, 13 2018 @ 06:22 PM
a reply to: DoctorBluechip

Turkey pays this price for the war with Sryia. Coverts need to be kept covert. The US pays this price for its free speech


posted on Oct, 13 2018 @ 06:34 PM
Nations and individuals are blowing the alleged death of 1 human being out of proportion...considering how many are murdered every month by various nations.

The IMF chief keeps this alleged murder in proper perspective.

BALI - International Monetary Fund (IMF) chief Christine Lagarde has no plans at the moment to pull out of an upcoming Saudi investment summit that has been rocked by the mass withdrawal of international heavyweights amid mounting speculation over the disappearance of a dissident journalist.

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