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My Boss Is Harassing Me At Work Because of Trump

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posted on Oct, 12 2018 @ 01:14 PM
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originally posted by: Isurrender73
a reply to: Grambler

Some liberals can't believe people like you and I exist. They think everyone that supports Trump in any way is somehow unable to be critical when he does something we disagree with.

Because they have taken such a hard line to disagree with everything Trump and support everything liberal, even when they are clearly wrong from a moral or constitutional perspective, they have completely lost touch with rational debate.



Almost everyone I know that supports Trump complains about him at times. How can you not?




posted on Oct, 12 2018 @ 01:16 PM
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originally posted by: Isurrender73
a reply to: Grambler

Some liberals can't believe people like you and I exist. They think everyone that supports Trump in any way is somehow unable to be critical when he does something we disagree with.

Because they have taken such a hard line to disagree with everything Trump and support everything liberal, even when they are clearly wrong from a moral or constitutional perspective, they have completely lost touch with rational debate.



True statement.

Here's another true statement:


Some conservatives can't believe people like you and I exist. They think everyone that doesn't support Trump in any way is somehow unable to be critical when he does something we disagree with.

Because they have taken such a hard line to agree with everything Trump and support everything conservative, even when they are clearly wrong from a moral or constitutional perspective, they have completely lost touch with rational debate.


Ok, so now what Jr.?



posted on Oct, 12 2018 @ 01:17 PM
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a reply to: MrBuddy

Pay attention to the laws of recoring conversations in your state: Many states are single-party, meaning you don't have do tell another party that you're recording them.

If you are in such a state, I would start recording the issues as best you can, any way that you can.

This guy is breaking the law, period. But first and foremost (as shown in your example of the Kavanaugh hearing), you must acquire evidence before making any sort of accusations like this.

Good luck--that really sucks.



posted on Oct, 12 2018 @ 01:17 PM
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originally posted by: Isurrender73
a reply to: theantediluvian

I can't believe how unhinged you have become. Someday you will have to look in the mirror and realize that your defence of stupidity from liberals is part of what is pushing moderates to vote red.

I'm not sure anyone but a few die hard liberals take you seriously any more. It's quite sad, agree or disagree I used to appreciate your intelligent posts. But now just like a few others that are lost in liberal delusion I wish ATS had a mute button like twitter so I wouldn't have to watch you fall apart.



Yeah, he's just one example of people that I didn't always agree with but at least respected when I joined here that have gone completely off the rails.

Trump I guess.



posted on Oct, 12 2018 @ 01:18 PM
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originally posted by: jhn7537
a reply to: MrBuddy

Best answer I can give you (as i work in corporate world too) is begin keeping detailed notes, possible recordings of these exchanges.... Ultimately, if this behavior continues, you'll have evidence of dates/recordings/etc. to relay over to HR, and ultimately, any outside lawyers to help protect your worker rights.


This is right on. What he is doing is harassment. Not the illegal kind, but still the annoying kind. If you want to have any chance of vindicating yourself you need records, notes, details and basically a file to prove that the incidents happened.



posted on Oct, 12 2018 @ 01:22 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: knoxie
a reply to: Grambler


but, it's only a liberal thing, right?

ya, your integrity is off the charts.


Show me saying that "its only a liberal thing".




so, you agree conservatives do it, too?

cool, cuz a lot in this thread are saying it's a liberal thing. glad you called out anti, tho. like i said loads of integrity.



Another shining example of the tolerance and inclusiveness of the Left.





All of the people I work around are as Conservative as me, including the VP and CEO. There are some liberals here but none of us would ever bully them for their lack of intelligence.


you guys are funny.

desperate, and lame as hell, but funny.



posted on Oct, 12 2018 @ 01:25 PM
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originally posted by: olaru12
Careful about recording people without telling them.....

Is that a problem in the US?
In the UK we don't have the 'inadmissible' evidence thing. If a judge or position of authority deems it to be relevant evidence then we don't need permission.



posted on Oct, 12 2018 @ 01:25 PM
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originally posted by: Athetos
Way to prove the point by delegitimizing the OP based on their political afflication.
a reply to: theantediluvian



I'm not delegitimizing anything. I thought it was a teachable moment in empathy and it was posted in the Mud Pit.



posted on Oct, 12 2018 @ 01:26 PM
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OP, You've got to go on the attack immediately. SJWs have no morals and will relentlessly attack you for your political and religious beliefs. I recommend immediately informing HR of this harassment and seeking outside counsel, because HR departments are heavily converged by SJWs.

There is a book by Vox Day called SJWs Always Double Down that has strategies for defending against an sjw attack. The one thing you can't do is nothing, and a defensive strategy is not the best for dealing with an SJW assault.
edit on 12-10-2018 by jefwane because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 12 2018 @ 01:28 PM
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a reply to: knoxie
I dont even know what you are talking about.

Yes conservatives and liberals can be intolerant jerks.

Who doesnt believe that?

I was calling ante out for using strawmen to deflect from the OP's story.

I have no idea why you are lumping me in with other posters and calling me desperate.



posted on Oct, 12 2018 @ 01:34 PM
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a reply to: MrBuddy

Ride it out bro, it won't be long before you are having the last laugh.



posted on Oct, 12 2018 @ 01:36 PM
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originally posted by: MrBuddy
So I recently got a great promotion at the company I work for. While I won't name them, they are a Fortune 500. I'm not a big-wig, just middle management.

I share an office space with a GM and a Regional Director. Up until a few weeks ago, we all got along great and things seemed to be going as well as they could for me. That is until the Kavanaugh hearings started.
We have a television hanging on the wall in the office and the hearings were on. The Regional Director paid a lot of attention to the hearing and the CNN news reports during and after. I knew he was a super liberal and kept all political chatter to a minimum because I'm a strict conservative. However, I made a mistake during Cory Booker's questioning. The RD was cheering him on as he was bashing Kavanaugh and demanding an investigation. I forget the exact comment my RD made, but I responded that perhaps Booker, being a sexual predator himself, shouldn't be calling for an investigation on anyone.

I was sorry the moment I said anything because the RD looked at me and claimed that Booker never sexually assaulted anyone and asked if I had heard that on FOX news. Becoming even dumber, I responded that Booker actually admitted it in his book. He then asked me to prove it...and I did by showing him numerous articles written about it.

The RD then did a no-no...he asked me what my party affiliation was. In a corporate setting, this is risky territory....for both of us. I responded that I choose no party over another, but I lean conservative. His next question was if I liked Trump. I told him that I liked a lot of what he was doing and disliked some things. When he asked about what I liked, I told him that I never get into political or religious conversations at work for obvious reasons.

When I left work that day, I noticed an Obama bumper sticker on my car. I got a little freaked out because there are hundreds of people that work there as well as visitors. I couldn't imagine that anyone knew what I drove as I was a transfer from another branch just a few weeks before. I came to work the next day to find a document on my computer keyboard about all the lies that Trump has told since he's been in office.

I won't detail every event, starting Monday of this week, the level of harassment is becoming a bit scary. The RD has started calling me names for being a conservative. "Stupid Bible Thumper" seems to be the favorite even though I affiliate with no church. He had a conversation with some other big-wig right behind my desk and they were talking about how all "backwoods conservatives" are stupid and ignorant. Mind you, I have a degree from one of the most prestigious colleges on the planet...Cornell University, so I am far from stupid and I felt so pissed off I almost quit right there.

So I'm in a conundrum here. The RD is my boss. He has been here for over 10 years and everyone loves him. What he is doing is blatant harassment at best....perhaps borderline hate-crime at worst. This job, or career, is the one I went to college and busted my butt for. It's great money and a superb addition to the resume. I could go to HR....but what would they say? Would they even do anything?

I never in my life thought I'd say this, but I'm scared that fanatic liberals actually DO have the power in this country and I'm fearful to even have a conversation with anyone just in case I say something conservative! What have we come to when thinkers of any sort are becoming too scared to even chat about the direction our country is headed? When we can't even be comfortable in our own skin?

I will continue keeping on, but I'm thinking that I should at least start recording things just to protect myself in the event of.....who knows what. I'm so disillusioned right now and hope that these types of people do not regain power ever again because they're evil sob's.


Booker admitted to kissing a girl with permission and then tried to go to second base. She rebuffed the first attempt but then relented on the second attempt. If you want to call that sexual assault go for it. Nothing at all like Kavanaugh was accused of.

What you have done is present yourself as a person who puts partisanship ahead of the ability to properly evaluate and compare separate events. Comparing the Kavanaugh issue to what Booker admitted to is borderline ridiculous. To think that the Kavanaugh allegations shouldn't have been investigated also shows a negative side of you.

My advice would be to find a new job before the chances for good references go down the tubes. You will never see another promotion under this boss because you openly displayed character flaws which make you seem unfit for higher positions. When you find that next job make sure not to repeat the same mistakes.

For the record if you reversed party roles, I would be saying the same thing.



posted on Oct, 12 2018 @ 01:38 PM
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posted on Oct, 12 2018 @ 01:45 PM
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a reply to: theantediluvian

You usually have more thoughtful posts. The OP is now a target and everything he does will be cast in the light of those political differences.

The regional manager is a typical small-minded power hungry fool who lets politics get in the way of business. The OP may be seen as a competitor who must be suppressed. The RM obviously doesn't like that his company got some big tax breaks from Trump that the upper management and board of directors do like. The OP could respond that the Trump tax breaks were good for the country and especially the company he works for. Tape the RM response for future reference. The OP might even imply that everything that was already said was recorded. A casual conversation [to be overheard by his office mates] with another employee including the phrase "I keep a record of everything and my computer has a mic" might give them pause about continuing with their harassment. Alternatively, he might even turn the mic on accidentally when they are in the office.



posted on Oct, 12 2018 @ 01:48 PM
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a reply to: AScrubWhoDied

I agree there are some conservatives on here I would mute if there was a mute button. But you should check my post history as your apparent assumptions of me are making you look foolish.

How about the time I posted an OP "Socialism is not a 4 letter word". Or when I called Trump a misogynistic A type narcissist who is out of touch with the common man.

I support him when I feel he deserves it. He is our president and when I feel like he is doing what he thinks is best I accept that he is trying even if I disagree with many of his ideals.

You really should know who you're replying to before you make condescending remarks.

Jr? Keep pushing the middle to the right.



posted on Oct, 12 2018 @ 01:50 PM
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a reply to: sligtlyskeptical

But nothing about the boss' bullying. Ironic considering your advice: "What you have done is present yourself as a person who puts partisanship ahead of the ability to properly evaluate and compare separate events."



posted on Oct, 12 2018 @ 01:52 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: theantediluvian
Are you ok?

What a worthless post that is beneath you.


Ok... let's see...


originally posted by: MrBuddy

originally posted by: Rewey

originally posted by: DAVID64
a reply to: Vasa Croe

This was traffic violation [ 87 in a 55!! ]


She was clearly still trying to get away from Rapey Brett.

Pity. Just one more mph and she could have gone back in time and stopped this all from happening. Great Scott!!!



Thank you for making me laugh this morning!



There's the OP making light of Ford's accusation. (they were picking apart Ford's driving history for some reason and he thought, "She was clearly still trying to get away from Rapey Brett." was really funny) Here he's calling Ford a despicable human being:


originally posted by: MrBuddy

One thing is for sure...Ford is a despicable human being. IF....IF...she was at some party with just her and her friend, WHY WOULD SHE LEAVE HER THERE WITH A HOUSE FULL OF RAPISTS?? What kind of friend does that??
Also...why did this "friend" not question where Ford went?? The next day this "friend" didn't question Ford as to why she left?? What a joke.


And another gem:


originally posted by: MrBuddy
Any parent that would even mention the word "sexist" to a 10 year old is a tool. That 10 year old should be busy being a kid, not trying to change the world because her parents are too lazy to provide her with anything healthier than chocolate cereal.

Don't care how anyone feels about it, but things were far better when moms took care of the house and kids while dad took care of the bills and fixing things. Now, men have become pansies and moms have joined the softball team....while their kids cower in their darkened bedrooms making friends online and having delusions that the world owes them something. Mom and dad, not knowing what's wrong, puts them on psych meds and by the time the kid is in high school, they are planning a shooting.

Didn't see this type of thing 20+ years ago and the world was a far better place with far better people.


But then again, maybe despite the fact that he occupies himself with ridiculing other people for their unverified allegations and declaring that groups of people don't belong in the workplace based on their gender or shouldn't concern themselves with things like discrimination and then posts a Mud Pit thread with his allegation about workplace discrimination, I should have taken the high road here and resisted the urge to remind the OP of the golden rule.
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posted on Oct, 12 2018 @ 01:53 PM
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a reply to: Isurrender73

I didn't assume one iota about you, I did however append another factual statement to yours.

Ironic, considering you assumed what I assumed.

Sorry your feelings got hurt, maybe the 'jr.' was a bit rough.

I don't care where who goes on the political spectrum, we all continue to get #ed anyway.



posted on Oct, 12 2018 @ 01:56 PM
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a reply to: CornishCeltGuy




Is that a problem in the US? In the UK we don't have the 'inadmissible' evidence thing. If a judge or position of authority deems it to be relevant evidence then we don't need permission.



We have one party, and two party consent laws. If you are in a two party consent state you have to get the permission of the person you are recording.


www.dmlp.org...

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posted on Oct, 12 2018 @ 01:56 PM
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originally posted by: Asktheanimals

This is very much a fundamentalist mindset, the same as the religious right or Islamic jihadis. it is anti-pluralistic, intolerant and very difficult to change once established as a mindset.



You don't see this as a symptom of trump supporters?



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