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Why democrats will destroy America

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posted on Oct, 12 2018 @ 08:23 AM
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a reply to: ketsuko

Damn I guess we better call those socialist European countries and let them know they need to stop having private businesses and property.




posted on Oct, 12 2018 @ 08:25 AM
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a reply to: Pyle




No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.


Read closer.

Money is property.

Using the one percent as slaves to pay for the wants of the mob?

UNCONSTITUTIONAL.



posted on Oct, 12 2018 @ 08:27 AM
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Double post
edit on 12-10-2018 by Pyle because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 12 2018 @ 08:30 AM
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a reply to: neo96

"Article 1, Section 8, Clause 1" and Amendment 16 would like to have a word with you.

Also I like how you skipped the last part of that section.


nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law



posted on Oct, 12 2018 @ 08:36 AM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Pyle

Socialism deprives you of property.

Means of production are owned by the state. As of now, means of production are owned by private individuals or entities.


SOCIALISTS don't care.




posted on Oct, 12 2018 @ 08:43 AM
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originally posted by: neo96

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Pyle

Socialism deprives you of property.

Means of production are owned by the state. As of now, means of production are owned by private individuals or entities.


SOCIALISTS don't care.



You should let the socialist European counties know they cant have their private property or private businesses anymore.



posted on Oct, 12 2018 @ 08:51 AM
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originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
What a bias thread, no surprise really though. A more realistic title would be " why angry stupid people will destroy America ".

Yea only Democrats are willing to do anything to destroy the COTUS.



posted on Oct, 12 2018 @ 08:55 AM
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originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: Justoneman

originally posted by: seeker1963

originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: DBCowboy
I just wish we had reasoned, sensible democrats.

I may not agree with all their approaches, but it was never anti-Constitutional.

I don't trust the republicans. I think they have just as much propensity to violate the Constitution if given the chance.


However... more and more establishment Republican progressives going out, more actual conservatives coming in.... think Freedom Caucus.

I see the Republicans at having a chance to get their party back... versus the Democratic party, which seems to be swirling down the toilet.

Good riddance... maybe then the Libertarians can become the new balance.



Libertarian party lost me when they went for open borders....


The last Libertarian POTUS candidate was a commie. I voted DJT


Nah, he wasn't a commie. He was just the same old, same old ... just washing it all down with legal weed.

I was disappointed, too. Had the libertarians actually nominated a real libertarian, not just a liberaltarian (libertine), they could have made an impact.

Of course, we'd now have president Hillary because I don't think true libertariansim was going to peel proggies, only 'pubs, like a lot of us who weren't exactly thrilled with Trump, but scared sh1tless of Hillary.


Since it is you, I will acquiesce. But it did feel socialist when we needed backbone and HRC defeated at the ballot box, again.



posted on Oct, 12 2018 @ 08:59 AM
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a reply to: Pyle

Feel free to move there.

But I will be damned if I let it be FORCED on me here.
edit on 12-10-2018 by neo96 because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 12 2018 @ 09:00 AM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Pyle

Socialism deprives you of property.

Means of production are owned by the state. As of now, means of production are owned by private individuals or entities.


THE VERY 1ST PARAGRAGH. Life liberty or property shall not be denied without due process.



posted on Oct, 12 2018 @ 09:11 AM
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originally posted by: Pyle
a reply to: ketsuko

Damn I guess we better call those socialist European countries and let them know they need to stop having private businesses and property.


European nations don't have our bill of rights.

And just because they haven't confiscated everything doesn't mean they won't.

But you asked why the 14th is a roadblock, and we told you. Now please inform us which European nation has the 14th Amendment.



posted on Oct, 12 2018 @ 09:20 AM
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And I showed you that the 14th doesnt preclude socialism. Plus the US government already engages in socialism its just you have a binary view on socialism where it must be that the government takes everything. Socialism doesnt have to work that way thus why I cited the socialist European countries.



posted on Oct, 12 2018 @ 09:45 AM
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The new Democrats have very little loyalty to the United states. Many of their families and ties are elsewhere.

So if its not good for back home. It's not good for the u.s.

The Democrats have created a beast that is now out of control.
They took in so many different radical groups , they are nothing what they once were



posted on Oct, 12 2018 @ 10:21 AM
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a reply to: Pyle

Does not mean you can arbitrarily pass a law that confiscates property. So, no, you didn't show us any such thing about the 14th.
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posted on Oct, 12 2018 @ 11:41 AM
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DBCowboy , I'm not sure how your perspective of the Democratic Party became so skewed, but it really isn't indicative at all where the party is today. The party is controlled by corporate Democrats, who are de facto moderate Republicans. Sure, progressives, want social benefits and programs that every developed nation but America has, but only because they work. Nobody but maybe the far left is suggesting anything remotely like full blown socialism or communism, certainly not progressives such as myself. Just a thought...



posted on Oct, 12 2018 @ 12:18 PM
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I disagree to a point with the OP. Most of the extremism we see on both sides is hyper inflated by the media and internet. Many of you on even ATS are driven by bias paths of information that only feed your narrow views of reality without pulling back and actually looking at everything from all angles.

A big part of this inflation of reality is the numbers that seems to be reported of extremest on both sides. It seems that if you have 200 people protesting in Portland and that is put on the internet and media 24/7 it gets inflated to 1000s or even 10,000s...

Hours after Kavanaugh was voted in I went to the Gym and then later out to dinner/drinks and I saw not a single person upset talking about it, focused on the gym TV etc or pissed off in general. I played b-ball lifted weights with lots of women around me, minorities etc and nothing.. BUT hell 200 socialist, anarchist, men hating liberal progressives were protesting in Portland and that was pushed as a full country upset over all this.

Washington feeds on it too, they play this ability to hyper inflate all of it to their seemly advantage as they start to believe it all as well.

We saw this with Hillary that had a 100% change to win for a very long time. That 100% was all based on this hyper inflation and so everything was skewed as to actual reality. As we reach Nov who here will be shocked if the Republicans end up holding both the house and senate and Trump ends up with another 4 years in 2020. I can honestly see the right base being energized by all this while many on the left are disgusted by how Kavanaugh was treated by their reps and they just stay home and not vote.

Remember #metoo movement was created by Hollywood and fed by the media, and the reality is there is a huge number of Americans male and female that are just not buying into it all especially as it has turned into a man hating frenzy attack on anyone who disagrees with them as their goal is to ruin anyone in their path.



posted on Oct, 12 2018 @ 12:28 PM
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originally posted by: tabularosa
certainly not progressives such as myself. Just a thought...


What do you think the word progressive means? It is just a nice way to say socialism...lol

The problem with socialized medicine is we would need to build the system from the ground up and not have it as part of the insurance umbrella that would cost 4 or 5 trillion. No one in Washington wants to touch that on either side.



posted on Oct, 12 2018 @ 01:01 PM
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originally posted by: Pyle

And I showed you that the 14th doesnt preclude socialism. Plus the US government already engages in socialism its just you have a binary view on socialism where it must be that the government takes everything. Socialism doesnt have to work that way thus why I cited the socialist European countries.


It is hard to compare a country like Netherlands to America since life is vastly different in each. In Netherlands they have about 60% tax and do not live a consumer lifestyle. Not a vast country so transportation of bikes and public is very doable.
they live a rather sparse lifestyle too, but then it is one they know and grew up in.



posted on Oct, 12 2018 @ 01:04 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

actually adress what i said - dont go off on a tangen - thanks



posted on Oct, 12 2018 @ 01:09 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

tell us - coherently - how a " non socialist " state - funds creates the necceary intrastructure of a modern society ?



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