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Do you really want the United States to be ruled by Conservative Trump style Republicans ?

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posted on Oct, 9 2018 @ 03:28 PM
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a reply to: olaru12

Oh, pish-tosh.

If things go bad, and they're the ones in control of Congress, and the White House, not to mention a majority of state houses and governors mansions, of course they're going to get blamed. Or the majority of it, anyway...




posted on Oct, 9 2018 @ 05:24 PM
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a reply to: AlienView

If the progressive left was sane I could agree with you.
If they put up Gabbard in 2020, then we can talk, I can't imagine anybody voting for the people on the Judiciary committee if they run. Booker Or Harris please no.



posted on Oct, 9 2018 @ 05:53 PM
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When they say they'll do away with sanctuary cities, oppose socialized medicine, and denounce those abolish ICE individuals, then we'll talk.

But their ridiculous PC, let's not offend anyone, has caused the left to go further and further left as they can't denounce the more radical loons for fear of offending them. Thus the more radical a position is taken by a loon they embrace for fear of being offensive. In the end you end up with the loony bin's inmates running the asylum.

Kavanaugh showed the level of crazy floating around in the democrat party. MSM can't hide the dems ugly step children no more, the curtains are down, and the liberal emperor is buck naked.
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posted on Oct, 9 2018 @ 05:55 PM
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a reply to: AlienView




Yes.

What is the alternative at this point? Open borders globalists who have no problem sending every job they can overseas and insourcing H1B1 workers to take what they cant? A party that cares more about illegal aliens and refugees than its own people? I am sick and tired of what the democrats have foisted on us for the past 50 years and told us we have to like it. They claim to be the party of the poor and workers but they sell us out every chance they get. I would rather live in a country where a vibrant economy and industrial base exists where I have the chance at least to be responsible for myself and even own my own business, than live in one where I have to depend on the state to survive. Its better to be lean and free than fat and dependent. I would rather be ruled by republicans who support a constitutional republic than democrats who support making this country a globalist province.


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posted on Oct, 9 2018 @ 06:04 PM
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a reply to: AlienView


Do you want this? - Does Donald Trump and his solidly Conservative base represent you?


The alternative being a crazed faction of lunatic leftists that call themselves the Democrats?

Red Tsunami incoming, the Democrats hopefully never recover from this.

Trump is delivering, Bannon is correct. 50 years of GOP rule ahead. MAGA

www.washingtonexaminer.com...



posted on Oct, 9 2018 @ 06:15 PM
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a reply to: AlienView

Less government, more private sector. Its working and no this is not Obama's economy. The private sector hated that guy as much as they refuse to say it.

Misery loves company and that is all the left offers. More taxes and the hate America message. They are not happy unless they are miserable and their misery has to be felt by everyone.

I doubt you vote for Trump. You sound just like a bitter Hillary supporter.



posted on Oct, 9 2018 @ 07:47 PM
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a reply to: seagull


But neither am I in any great hurry to see a right wing super-majority in control, either.

The difference at this point in time is that a supermajority of far-left wingnuts would be impossible to get out of power short of an armed insurrection at his point. The Constitutional checks and balances have been and are being ignored by them.

The same could happen to a supermajority of right wing wingnuts, of course, but they're not there yet. As soon as they start approaching it, it becomes the duty of the people to toss them aside like moldy washrags too.

TheRedneck



posted on Oct, 9 2018 @ 07:49 PM
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originally posted by: BrianFlanders

I don't believe Republicans represent freedom of choice as closely as they'd have people think.



No, its about whether you want a progressive living Constitution that changes to the will of who ever is in power, or one that is written in stone and doesn't change.

Screw abortions, no matter what side you are on...who cares...Roe vs Wade is not going anywhere, but its that dead house that needs to be kicked every 4 years.

I'm tired of it...



posted on Oct, 9 2018 @ 07:53 PM
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originally posted by: AlienView

Not really - what it means today as far as the Republican party is is less government and more power to corporations,
the United States, Inc.

Ultimately leading to an autocracy of big business - That is what politcal conservative has come to mean.


You need a nice mix...



Some say the Democrats also represent autoratic rule of the elite - But for the moment they siill kick some back
to the middle and lower classes.


What have they kicked back, again? Obamacare that was known to be a failure from the start and barely lasted Obama's 8 years...nice kick back.


The corporate autocracty will make a complete and total takeover
and you can kiss a government of 'We the People' goodby


Pure socialism with total government control or corporate autocracy... not much to choose from...lol



posted on Oct, 9 2018 @ 08:57 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: proximo


He has definitely been better for the average citizen than the last few presidents - that is why wages are rising for the first time in 20 years, and unemployment is at a 50 year low.


Wages are always rising. The question is whether that rise outpaces the rise in cost of living. And the answer to that question is no. Cost of living rose 2.9% last year. Wages rose 2.7%.

Which means middle class income continues to stagnate. A trend that started under Reagan with his "Reaganomics" aka essentially the same economic model employed by the Trump administration.

Obama had 8 years to reverse your so called reaganomics. Did he???? More people were on foodstamps than ever before on his watch. Not to mention what Obamacare did to the actual insurance premiums of the average American.



posted on Oct, 9 2018 @ 09:16 PM
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a reply to: Xtrozero

"Pure socialism with total government control or corporate autocracy... not much to choose from...lol"

NO, Let's not laugh out loud - Let's cry out loud to the heavens to whatever God or quirk in the Universe that put us here:

WE THE PEOPLE - OUR WORLD - OUR WAY

Can't understand this? - Don't really understand who the founders of this great republic were
- Its never too late to learn.

Yes it was one Nation, one moment in time, a time long ago, when a small colony of Btitain demanded equal rights,
freedom from autocratic rule by authority - And it was for one nation, one group of people - And it came to pass.

And then this great nation was populated by peoples from around the World who made it a greater nation.
- A World leader - A Nation that became First among other nations.

And then the pettry and trite Conservatives seized control - 'The Hell with the rest of them they said, Globalist
riff raff - Human trash.

What petty trite minds thesse 'patriots' who call themselves Americans have developed, haven't they?

Do you think the founders who said:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness......

would consider these 'conservatives' who want to create the great wall of Mexico to be their kind of people?

I don't think so - I think they would look at this new form of conservative as 'the English are coming' - Colonial
Britain all over again.

But you and your Alex Jones style anti GLOBALIST agenda - Look at the Donald again - The Trump corporation
is worldwide [Are they in Mexico?] - No matter Mexicans are alright as migrant farm workers who will work for
substandard wages - But never equal to Americans, right?

No, you see the Constitution of the United States no longer belongs only to the United States
- The Constirution of the Unied States of America is a document that belongs to the Workd

ONE NATION - ONE WORLD - ONE SPECIES CALLED MAN - THAT WILL SOON TRAVEL OUT INTO SPACE
TO A VAST NEW WORLD

Globalist you say? - No, I'm a Universalist - This Planet is too small for me
How abou you - ready to get out of your conservative shell and see the vastness of it all
- Or would you rather build walls between nations ?


“The means of defense against foreign danger historically have become the instruments of tyranny at home.”
-James Madison


“Freedom is not a gift bestowed upon us by other men, but a right that belongs to us by the laws of God and nature.”
-Benjamin Franklin


“If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms.”
-Samuel Adams



“If by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people-their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights and their civil liberties-someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal", then I'm proud to say I'm a "Liberal.”
― John F. Kennedy, Profiles in Courage







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posted on Oct, 9 2018 @ 09:19 PM
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No, but I'd rather have the Republicans be in Power then the Democrats.

Remember guys, Democrats it's Guilty until Proven Innocent.

Voting all Red this mid term



posted on Oct, 9 2018 @ 09:21 PM
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a reply to: AlienView


Of course if you are alreay rich and don't give a damn about anyone else - this does not apply.


So you want bezos/zuckerberg/schmidt/buffet/dorsey/schultz/swift/hollywood et all to stay home? See, this is the problem with the dems attempts to divide people politically based on race/income/socail status/etc. People are not people to democrats, they are pawns divided into groups.

Rich? Republican
AA? Democrat
Hispanic? Democrat
White? Republican
Woman? Democrat
Man? Republican
LGBT? Democrat
Christian? Republican
etc

Never mind that all of those groups are really made up of individuals with personal political beliefs. Those beliefs are not set in stone and can be changed. See trump at 25% approval among AA's. If you are in one of those groups that's supposed to be a democrat group but you buck the label, you're a traitor to your group (this week it is women who support due process and therefore will vote republican). Conversely, if you're in a republican group and you buck the trend, you're a hero!
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posted on Oct, 9 2018 @ 09:24 PM
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why do we want to be ruled?

doesn't that sound ridiculous to you?



posted on Oct, 9 2018 @ 09:35 PM
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a reply to: TheRedneck

Perhaps, perhaps not.

I should have said right-wing wingnuts, rather than just right wing. As I'm inclined to the right, as you know.

I think the best way to keep the DC-nuts out of our lives is to have it as close to absolutely balanced, as possible. Common everyday right-wing I can deal with...I are one, after all, though not to the extent of some.

But I'm fairly certain that right wing wing-nuts wouldn't be a whole lot better than left wing wing-nuts...just set off by differing triggers.



posted on Oct, 9 2018 @ 10:14 PM
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Do I want Trump in charge? Ummmm does a Bigfoot $hit in the woods? For Shizzle



posted on Oct, 9 2018 @ 10:20 PM
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a reply to: toysforadults

We don't, which is why we vote for the limited government party.



posted on Oct, 9 2018 @ 10:39 PM
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originally posted by: AlienView

And then the pettry and trite Conservatives seized control - 'The Hell with the rest of them they said, Globalist
riff raff - Human trash.[/QUOTE]

Do you feel open borders is the answer? Do you feel the word Nation is the new N word?




"We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness......


There is 7+ billion on the planet now... Does anyone on the left even know who or what Darfur is... It is all BS,



would consider these 'conservatives' who want to create the great wall of Mexico to be their kind of people?


We had a few wars with Mexico if I remember my history...did we say, OK let them have Texas...lol If we want to be the black hole for everyone on the planet that lives a crappy life should he not start a mass immigration program AROUND the world and not just give special consideration to those close?

[quote]
No, you see the Constitution of the United States no longer belongs only to the United States
- The Constirution of the Unied States of America is a document that belongs to the Workd

ONE NATION - ONE WORLD - ONE SPECIES CALLED MAN - THAT WILL SOON TRAVEL OUT INTO SPACE
TO A VAST NEW WORLD


Well lets start in space then...



Globalist you say? - No, I'm a Universalist - This Planet is too small for me
How abou you - ready to get out of your conservative shell and see the vastness of it all
- Or would you rather build walls between nations ?


I have lived in 5 different countries around the world... I have seen personally how the world is...not pretty. If you think America should be the first of 195 countries to have zero borders then go some place else...

I'm not sure what you want, but the world sees it differently and if you think 500 million people just walk in and start a new life is good for OUR NATION then you must be very naïve.

The world is not a nice place period... YOU might be ready but the world is not, the world is ready to chew up your eyes like JU JU BEES.






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posted on Oct, 9 2018 @ 10:41 PM
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You never want 1 party complete control..ever. Democrat, Republican, or a new party. As much as some people here seem to enjoy the idea of a never ending Trump Dynasty where he has complete control of the Congress and Supreme Court, one party rule will never be good for you.



posted on Oct, 9 2018 @ 10:46 PM
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originally posted by: trb71
You never want 1 party complete control..ever. Democrat, Republican, or a new party. As much as some people here seem to enjoy the idea of a never ending Trump Dynasty where he has complete control of the Congress and Supreme Court, one party rule will never be good for you.


And in 2 or 4 years it will all change so what is your point? That is what happens in America...



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