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posted on Oct, 8 2018 @ 11:09 PM
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a reply to: Anomaly0101



I believe the laws of thermodynamics are constantly cited when it comes to topics regarding free energy and it's a quick scapegoat as I believe there is a coverup in the physics community due to US national security secrets.


What you are typing on is a result of Science understanding the Laws of Thermodynamics. In order to do anything, requires (produces) resistance. Call it what you want... heat, resistence, entropy... there is no cover-up there. What you suggest requires a new Science, which means everything you know about what we have built lately, is wrong.
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posted on Oct, 8 2018 @ 11:11 PM
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originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: Anomaly0101

sorry, car stereo guys are arguing with me.

like I said from the start, that magnets will lose power quickly, and the setup you are proposing will only produce DC voltage, so you will need an inverter.



I will only need an inverter for certain devices that require AC. But the basic idea is even simpler than I originally thought if I don't require a multiplier to get steady DC. A guy ive known for 10 years told me I'd need an inverter but I already knew that. He had an electricians license, his brother has a masters degree. Honestly even if you guys don't have a friggen degree and disagree with my idea, at least this forum isn't dead like so many others. Thanks



posted on Oct, 8 2018 @ 11:14 PM
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a reply to: Anomaly0101

I didn't say it wouldn't work!

I would just require an eventual supply of energy to rotate the rotors, and some sort of supply to either act as, or create a stator.



posted on Oct, 8 2018 @ 11:33 PM
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One thing I would entertain, would be that yes, the governments has many technical secrets that fall under National Security. This would mean there are incredible revelations in physics that still incorporate the Laws of Thermodynamics as we understand them.



posted on Oct, 8 2018 @ 11:39 PM
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originally posted by: Anomaly0101
I will only need an inverter for certain devices that require AC. But the basic idea is even simpler than I originally thought if I don't require a multiplier to get steady DC. A guy ive known for 10 years told me I'd need an inverter but I already knew that. He had an electricians license, his brother has a masters degree. Honestly even if you guys don't have a friggen degree and disagree with my idea, at least this forum isn't dead like so many others. Thanks
A degree might help with designing and building devices that follow the laws of physics as we know them, but a degree won't help at all in building impossible devices such as the one you would like to build, so I don't know why you even mention degrees.

You're right about "no closed systems" which is why the solar panels work, right? We can point to the sun as the energy source outside the solar panel system. But I don't see any explanation from you on how your system is not closed in such a way that energy is flowing into it from some outside source, like the solar panel example. And that's why it's impossible, unless you can explain that, which you haven't done.

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posted on Oct, 8 2018 @ 11:40 PM
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a reply to: charlyv

If you listen to big-dave and phoenix, this might happen. They are ignorant to the power of a capacitor.



posted on Oct, 8 2018 @ 11:52 PM
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a reply to: Vector99

Electrolytics with inverted polarity and/or overvoltage applied will expire violently - no mystery there.

The video does show the weakened top of the cans allowing the boiling electrolyte to escape without metal shrapnel being produced (safety feature).



posted on Oct, 9 2018 @ 12:05 AM
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YES!

It also shows how to wire them wrong, which a couple people here have demonstrated it as well.

I would Highly recommend not taking their advice.



posted on Oct, 9 2018 @ 12:10 AM
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originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: charlyv

If you listen to big-dave and phoenix, this might happen. They are ignorant to the power of a capacitor.



You are letting the magic smoke out.

Actually, not knowing a damn thing about capacitors is why they keep blowing up for you.

I don't believe that you have the capacity to understand capacitance and you seem to have a great deal of resistance to learning.

You are like a few turns of wire around a bobbin inducting the less brilliant than you without understanding what the hell is going on.

A few turns short of a correct value.

What are allowable values for resistance and inductance for a capacitor to have.

P



posted on Oct, 9 2018 @ 12:35 AM
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Clever words don't equate to knowledge.

I don't care about your poetry, show me your knowledge.

Til' then, it's worthless to talk to the ignorant.




What are allowable values for resistance and inductance for a capacitor to have.

usually +/- 6%
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posted on Oct, 9 2018 @ 12:45 AM
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originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: pheonix358

Clever words don't equate to knowledge.

I don't care about your poetry, show me your knowledge.

Til' then, it's worthless to talk to the ignorant.




What are allowable values for resistance and inductance for a capacitor to have.

usually +/- 6%

If you want to try to debate electrical knowledge how about you start a thread and I’ll gladly smack ya around there, what I won’t do is derail the thread any further.
OP- If I’m visualizing what you’re wanting to do correctly you’re still going to have back EMF unless I’m missing something?

ETA- ROFL what are you on about dude?!?!?
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You owned yourself hard- physics.stackexchange.com...
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posted on Oct, 9 2018 @ 01:08 AM
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or you could simply state how I'm wrong?

Looking further into car audio capacitors, they focus mainly on balance rather than amplification.

So we are talking about a completely different application for a cap now.

No boosts, just balancing. Car audio seems to use capacitors for wave balance rather than component starting. Actually it may do that too if voltage is right.

So, basically a capacitor in a car glows real nice, but really does nothing, except start everything.
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posted on Oct, 9 2018 @ 01:14 AM
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originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: BigDave-AR

or you could simply state how I'm wrong?

Looking further into car audio capacitors, they focus mainly on balance rather than amplification.

So we are talking about a completely different application for a cap now.

No boosts, just balancing. Car audio seems to use capacitors for wave balance rather than component starting. Actually it may do that too if voltage is right.

So, basically a capacitor in a car glows real nice, but really does nothing, except start everything.

Read the link and we’re not talking about car audio now are we? In a car audio application a power capacitor is for voltage stiffening during high dynamic loads nothing about wave balancing or any other wank you come up with.. How is the resistance of a cap +/- 6%? If you read my link you might realize what an arse you’re making of yourself but alright....



posted on Oct, 9 2018 @ 01:19 AM
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A car audio super capacitor is simply a high performance energy reservoir to even out the demands on the energy source (alternator + battery) by something as dynamic and variable as an audio system. The capacitor supplements the demand on output peaks and restores itself in the troughs in exactly the same way caps are used to 'smooth' the output of rectified AC power supplies.

No magic here



posted on Oct, 9 2018 @ 01:35 AM
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a reply to: BigDave-AR

i misread resistance for rating.

A capacitor does a few things, including balancing the frequency.



posted on Oct, 9 2018 @ 01:40 AM
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originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: BigDave-AR

i misread resistance for rating.

A capacitor does a few things, including balancing the frequency.
And what frequency does the 12v power have exactly?



posted on Oct, 9 2018 @ 01:47 AM
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a reply to: BigDave-AR

50-60 hertz typically.



posted on Oct, 9 2018 @ 01:49 AM
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And you just pwned yourself again vehicle electrical systems are DC ie no frequency not like 60hz North American AC, so please stop talking about things you can’t even grasp the basics of.



posted on Oct, 9 2018 @ 01:51 AM
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a reply to: Vector99

If you're referring to the '+/- x%' thing, it's the tolerance of the actual capacitance value in relation to the marked capacitance value. EG 100uF +/- 10% means the cap should be somewhere between 90 and 110 uF

A cap's resistance is expressed as the ESR figure (equivalent series resistance) and the lower the better especially for high frequency application.



posted on Oct, 9 2018 @ 01:53 AM
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a reply to: BigDave-AR

you asked me the frequency of 12 volts, you didn't specify dc



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