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the cover up is obvious to all.

Peace

V. interesting article.

I disagree with your comment:

"the cover up is obvious to all."

There are a lot of ATS netizens to whom nothing is obvious, except for the official conspiracy theory they have swallowed hook, line and sinker.

Even if they read this article, they could come back and say things like:

* don't be silly, it's a Russian website and the guy can't even get heard in the US, he'as a crackpot
* show me the government documents with these body counts on them
* you conspiracy theorists are only making this up because you don't like Bush.

Nothing is obvious to some.

Hey, who do you think the extra three bodies were????

the only thing obvious to me is that your a gullible person feeding off the waste people dish out online.

the animals that flew those planes into the twin towers are somewhere resting in hell with their 64 virgins at hand. they wanted to hit our money and the did. But they will never take america. no matter how many pathetic organizations they set up, no matter how many mosques they build, no matter what they teach about us infidels.

let their wacked out leaders dry up just as Mussolini, Hitler and Stalin did.

NYC is still here, Baghdad fell

Kitty

Case in point.

Your position will have more credibility if you rebut the "facts" put up in the article rather than dismissing it because it disagrees with your fixed position.

Who hijacked and flew the planes? Or doesn't it matter -just pin a few names on it, get it all wrong, and the US citizen won't care?

No offence.

And there's no martyrdom, virgins or glory for the alleged hijackers, after they were out getting lapdances the night before. If they were fundamentalist Islamic terrorists, they knew that, and yet, there they were. Supposedly.

Nothing adds up, except for you.

Well said MaskedAvatar. Kitty you have done this a few times, spitting out your opinion in an obnoxious way and then not even have the decensy to back it up with evidence.
In the words of Jack Nicholson in a Few Good Men "You can't handle the truth".

he may be a crackpot. there are a lot of crack heads in our land. on the other hand the original article appeared in the sierratimes an all American web site, the Russians picked up on it and posted it on their message board. much as we do here. i also read Pravda on a regular basis and sometimes wonder if their news is more open, exploratory, questioning, unbiased and free than ours. i don't wonder it is.
what i find interesting is that this conspiracy theory is being generated from New Orleans, where Attorney Garrison revealed the best explanation of the Kennedy Conspiracy.
a long time home of the CIA and for you Illumanatti buffs remember the Louisiana Purchase the French Freemasons and our Revolution celebrated today
New Orleans also has a multitude of fine dining!

Tut

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i agree with Miss KItty and do not belive she was obnoxious in any way.. evidence, it has been in our newspapers and on the lips of our chief bush for a year and a half, read a newspaper you want evidence

the question should be, can you handle the truth, can you belive the evidenc as presented to the all powerfull American Public. obviously Miss Kitty is dedicated to our nation and its ideals, but can we be dedicated to our leaders and their ideals. should we belive what they say as Miss Kitty does or should we belive in how they act as I do.
at any rate I feel you owe Miss Kitty a apology.

tut tut

p.s.
Miss Kitty is your signature a Lou Reed song, i feel i have heard it before and know not where?

Tut

Long live The Big Easy.

For purposes of clarity - which conspiracy theory is coming out of New Orleans?

The 9/11 autopsy one covered in the article, I presume?

Or another?

Do they need covenient names and labels?

I am happy to rename the "official conspiracy theory":

that a number of identified and known militants entered the country, attended flight schools, planned the 9/11 hijackings, simultaneously got through airports with the same security company without a hitch, flew with expert skills at their targets without any fighter craft mobilised until too late to trail them, on the same day that there was a practice mission to respond to the same events, while George W Bush read to a class of children, and that "Mohammed Atta's" passport survived the impact and landed in a place where it could conveniently be found, and that there was a legitimate reason to remove all the metal from the disaster site and recycle it or bury it in the desert, and that the stock movements in the days before 9/11 were random, and that ICQ messages preceding the attacks and warnings to key Bush administration officials not to fly on the day were coincidental, and all and sundry other uninteresting points related to the enquiries and investigation;

the "Kitty conspiracy theory" in honour of her depth of analysis and contribution.

I am an ex Naval line officer and a psychiatrist in private practice in New Orleans, a Christian and homeschool dad. It troubled me a great deal that we rushed off to war on the flimsiest of evidence. I considered various ways to provide a smoking gun of who and why Sept 11th happened. Astute observers noticed right away that there were no Arabic sounding names on any of the flight manifests of the planes that “crashed” on that day.

from www.sierratimes.com 0-3/07/02

Lee Harvey Oswald was also in the military, lived and worked in New Orleans, had connections with CIA, and obviously Kennedy. He was a puppet, we may be looking at another puppet!
Let us eat a poor boy and drink a beer and think about it.
Then we can grab some crawfish gumbo and Southern Comfort and think about it somemore.
In the morn'in we 'll go fish'in and talk about what we thought about!

tut tut [busy day]

Tut

Excellent contributions, and thanks for your background.

There's no evidence presented here. We have to rely on the words of someone whose background is not verifiable, and a report issued only by the Russians, and not even a mainstream russian news agency.

So there's a lot of reason to doubt the validity of this information.

it's on the internet

it must be true!

-not-

think for yourself

I know you can

Robbie

Read Tut's posts.

The same information has been covered by US media.
It is one of those stories that of course all administration-compliant media will 'spike'.

You seem to have fallen into the Russo-crackpot dismissal trap that was set for lesser entities than yourself in the first response to the post.

Or are you also trying to 'spike' this story?

Move along folks, nothing to see. (Williamism).

well Mr Burns

consult the original post and it will connect you to the RU message board on there you will find the original http location and you will not have to rely on my word. furthure more their are zillions of search engines [even secret ones]
and you can belive everything on the WEB

guest

Practise what you preach.

"think for yourself

I know you can"

Show some independent thought and analysis, or go somewhere else. Look at the standard of what people are offering here, and see if you can measure up in some way.

I watched from my balcony as the towers fell. luckily my fiancee was late for work that morning. he " worked " across from one of the towers in the financial center. merchants ny was the company he worked for. it was blow to bits by the debree that fell when they came down. I lost 2 people and would of lost my partner if it hadnt been for his lazy a$$ getting out of bed late.

everything was still that day around my neighborhood, shock i guess ...xept for our muslim neighbors in bensonhurst. they had their kids out on the street laughing and singing. no sign of sorrow. i kid you not. this was written up in the papers. muslims celebrating NYC's loss. that was all the evidence that I needed. no need for body counts. they talked with glee and excitement that day. I heard it with my own 2 ears. I know a bit of arabic as well, considering my cousin married a chauvinistic morroccan ( muslim ) that one day told me he will take me for his 2nd wife.

you can sit and think about conspiracies all day, fact is fact. and no need for an apology....I enjoy the abuse.

sorry for the spelling, i aint from around here

36-24-36 lyrics ( violent femmes )



[Edited on 5-7-2003 by kitty]

Kitty

I remember your story about the celebrating Muslims. I believe you, it would be hurtful.

Who was flying the planes that caused the tragedy is an unknown. Intelligence agencies have it at least 8/19 wrong.

Your 'president' is trying to suppress all information available as a result of detailed public investigations into the events and all the associated security lapses.

You owe it to yourself, and your peace of mind (in my opinion) to understand fully what happened, and why there is such a massive cover-up.

Quietly, I think there were more than misdirected anti-American arabs doing the celebrating.

oooh that rings a bell
must write down, must must must

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Источник: Thomas R. Olmsted, M.D/sierratimes.com
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Mr.Burns,
Here is the guy's phone number, go ahead and validate the story.

Truly yours,
TUT




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You should know better than to publish the address and phone numbers of others without their permission. Even if it is possible to find it elsewhere, let people find it there.

[Edited on 5-7-2003 by William]

Tut.

Above and beyond the call of duty.

Excellent stuff.