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originally posted by: Blue Shift
originally posted by: james1947
Well, that is exactly what I did; question Betty's drawing. Just as Ms Fish did, and we both found it a highly accurate depiction of near-by stars when NOT viewed from Earth.
Where is it viewed from?
originally posted by: humanoidlord
a reply to: james1947
nope, both are real phenomena done by the cosmic trickster
see the work of vallee,keel,caravaca and others and then we will talk
originally posted by: humanoidlord
a reply to: james1947
nope, both are real phenomena done by the cosmic trickster
see the work of vallee,keel,caravaca and others and then we will talk
originally posted by: humanoidlord
a reply to: james1947
why? they basically solved the UFO phenomena, by throwing cliche explanations out and trying to understand the phenomena under a brand new angle
and even if by a very small chance, you analysis turns to be accurate, then IDH still isn't debunked, because such a entity could easily trace some random stars near the solar system and claim that its a "trade map" (something wich is impossible, because all stars [and their respective orbiting bodies] are orbiting the galatic center at different speeds)
in my opinion, is muddy the waters by "making things up"
It appears that you still haven't tried to understand the "map"...Mr. Entity didn't just "trace some random stars", and neither did Betty, or Ms. Fish, and I've already explained where I got my stars...And, neither were these stars near any specific solar system, nor do they appear in a random order based on distance. The distance can be up to 60ly or so. And yes we are all orbiting the Galactic center, but the differences in that rate are comparatively small. Do you really think that something that happens on a "millions of years" cycle is going to affect something that happened 50 years ago? The ONLY reason the stars have "changed" in the past 50 years is because of better measurement technology, and not because of any natural process. As to the accuracy of my analysis; as I have already said. you have all the data and tools to verify my work, IF you have not, please refrain from speculation on the probability of correctness.
originally posted by: humanoidlord
a reply to: james1947
in my opinion, is muddy the waters by "making things up"
any proof of that?
space trade routes are pure science fiction, space is in constant movement unlike locations in earth
Well, actually, that's an opinion, so...no proof required beyond me saying that it is my opinion.
posted on Oct, 27 2018 @ 08:37 PM link quote reply originally posted by: humanoidlord a reply to: james1947 any proof of that? Well, actually, that's an opinion, so...no proof required beyond me saying that it is my opinion. space trade routes are pure science fiction, space is in constant movement unlike locations in earth Yes, as I said, stars are constantly moving, and it takes around 230 million years for the Sun to complete 1 orbit, so over the span of 50 - 60 years, there is comparatively little change, and yes the Sun will move by hundreds of millions of miles, but, compared to 40 light years, that is a small change. So, doing the math; Sol (the Sun) moves about 0.00003057ly in 1 year in 60 years thats: 0.00183ly. If One can cross 40+ ly to visit something, or to trade, that much movement is insignificant. And, those numbers assume the rest of the Universe is static and unmoving...which it isn't. I tend to agree with NoCorruptionAllowed; you should try a bit of constructive thought, you might also try actually doing your own research...learn new things. That's one of the things I like about this environment; other posters say thing that provoke thought, and cause me to go and find the truth. ETA: I'm sorry, I wanted to include these 2 links about stellar motion. Link1 Link 2
originally posted by: humanoidlord
a reply to: james1947
posted on Oct, 27 2018 @ 08:37 PM link quote reply originally posted by: humanoidlord a reply to: james1947 any proof of that? Well, actually, that's an opinion, so...no proof required beyond me saying that it is my opinion. space trade routes are pure science fiction, space is in constant movement unlike locations in earth Yes, as I said, stars are constantly moving, and it takes around 230 million years for the Sun to complete 1 orbit, so over the span of 50 - 60 years, there is comparatively little change, and yes the Sun will move by hundreds of millions of miles, but, compared to 40 light years, that is a small change. So, doing the math; Sol (the Sun) moves about 0.00003057ly in 1 year in 60 years thats: 0.00183ly. If One can cross 40+ ly to visit something, or to trade, that much movement is insignificant. And, those numbers assume the rest of the Universe is static and unmoving...which it isn't. I tend to agree with NoCorruptionAllowed; you should try a bit of constructive thought, you might also try actually doing your own research...learn new things. That's one of the things I like about this environment; other posters say thing that provoke thought, and cause me to go and find the truth. ETA: I'm sorry, I wanted to include these 2 links about stellar motion. Link1 Link 2
thats still big enough to cause trouble