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You far right wingers are just as bad the far left

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posted on Oct, 11 2018 @ 08:41 PM
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originally posted by: VeritasAequitas
a reply to: Outlier13


I am very familiar with the definition of a shill. But by all means keep trying to ride that high horse chief and let me know how it works out for you.


No, I really don't think you understand the definition of a shill.
But regarding the high horse...here's how it worked out for me a few months back. Still riding it and gonna' ride it through 2020 ! MAGA



edit on 11-10-2018 by Outlier13 because: (no reason given)




posted on Oct, 12 2018 @ 10:24 PM
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originally posted by: C0bzz
a reply to: AutisticEvo


perhaps then you should encourage the Left to stop insulting us. sounds like it might be healthy


No.

Insults never justify violence. And the threat of violence is intolerable, should be laughed at, and made a mockery of, otherwise further threats of violence and manipulation will follow. The unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims, is what is defined as terrorism.

The United States does not negotiate with terrorists - neither do I.


Yet here you are, the self proclaimed "Leftist Cuck" not critisizing or making a mockery of all the threats, violence and behaviour of Left leaning "Terrorism" or the Politicians encouraging it by not discouraging it.

How profoundly hypocritical on your part, and not surprising that as a leftist you imply "Rules for Thee, Not for me!" Mentality we see so much here.

You should practice what you preach young one



posted on Oct, 14 2018 @ 02:34 AM
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There's too much divide and conquer going on, see the topic of political neutrality towards the end of this comment for a counter.

Winning the Battle for Your Mind

... Propaganda! A weapon specially designed to attack, not your body, but your mind.
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If you are going to win the battle for your mind, you must recognize the danger that propaganda poses and protect yourself from it.

PROPAGANDA​—HOW DANGEROUS IS IT?

What is propaganda? In this context, it is the use of biased or misleading information to manipulate the way people think and act. Some equate propaganda with “lies, distortion, deceit, manipulation, mind control, [and] psychological warfare” and associate it with “unethical, harmful, and unfair tactics.”​—Propaganda and Persuasion.

How dangerous is propaganda? It is insidious​—like an invisible, odorless, poisonous gas—​and it seeps into our consciousness. Because we may not see propaganda for what it is, behavior specialist Vance Packard observed: “Many of us are being influenced and manipulated​—far more than we realize.” Under its influence, says one scholar, men and women have been “quite easily led into the most preposterously dangerous behaviour”​—such as ‘genocide, war, racist hysteria, religious intolerance and many other forms of irrational behaviour.’​—Easily Led—​A History of Propaganda.
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BUILD UP YOUR DEFENSES

Jesus gave this simple rule for combating propaganda: “Know the truth, and the truth will set you free.” (John 8:31, 32) But since truth is often the first casualty of war, you​—like any other soldier in the heat of battle—​need a source of trustworthy, reliable information to prevent the enemy from playing tricks with your mind. ... So never be content passively or blindly to accept what you hear. (Prov. 14:15) [whereislogic: also see my signature]
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BEWARE OF ATTEMPTS TO DIVIDE AND CONQUER
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“What Is Truth?”

THAT question was cynically posed to Jesus by the Roman Governor Pontius Pilate. He was not interested in an answer, and Jesus did not give him one. Perhaps Pilate viewed truth as too elusive to grasp.​—John 18:38.

This disdainful attitude toward truth is shared by many today, including religious leaders, educators, and politicians. They hold that truth​—especially moral and spiritual truth—​is not absolute but relative and ever changing.
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The statement that prompted Pilate’s question is worth noting. Jesus had said: “For this I have been born, and for this I have come into the world, that I should bear witness to the truth.” (John 18:37) Truth to Jesus was no vague, incomprehensible concept. He promised his disciples: “You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”​—John 8:32.

Where can such truth be found? On one occasion, Jesus said in prayer to God: “Your word is truth.” (John 17:17)
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Pilate indifferently rejected the opportunity to learn such truth. What about you?


From a mixture of articles:

Use discernment: Discernment is “acuteness of judgment.” It is “the power or faculty of the mind by which it distinguishes one thing from another.” A person with discernment perceives subtleties of ideas or things and has good judgment.

Using discernment, we will be able to recognize those who are merely using “smooth talk and complimentary speech” in order to “seduce the hearts of guileless ones.” (Romans 16:18) Discernment enables you to discard irrelevant information or misleading facts and distinguish the substance of a matter. But how can you discern when something is misleading?

Put information to the test: ... Some people today are like sponges; they soak up whatever they come across. It is all too easy to absorb whatever is around us.

But it is far better for each individual personally to choose what he will feed his mind. It is said that we are what we eat, and this can apply to food for both the body and the mind. No matter what you are reading or watching or listening to, test to see whether it has propagandistic overtones or is truthful.

Moreover, if we want to be fair-minded, we must be willing to subject our own opinions to continual testing as we take in new information. We must realize that they are, after all, opinions. Their trustworthiness depends on the validity of our facts, on the quality of our reasoning, and on the standards or values that we choose to apply.

Political neutrality: While most people may be willing to accept this position in times of peace, they become less tolerant when extraordinary circumstances arise. Often, fear and uncertainty brought on by war arouse strong sentiments of nationalism. This may make it difficult for some to understand why anyone would be reluctant to support popular national movements. True Christians, nevertheless, know that they must obey Jesus’ command to be “no part of the world.” (John 15:19; 17:14-16; 18:36; James 4:4) This requires that they maintain neutrality in political or social matters. Jesus himself set the proper example. Considering his perfect wisdom and outstanding abilities, he could have made a fine contribution to the human affairs of his day. Yet, he refrained from getting involved politically. At the beginning of his ministry, he flatly rejected Satan’s offer of rulership over all the kingdoms of the world. Later, he decisively avoided a draft for political office.​—Matthew 4:8-10; John 6:14, 15.

"11 We have much to say about him, and it is difficult to explain, because you have become dull in your hearing. 12 For although by now you should be teachers, you again need someone to teach you from the beginning the elementary things of the sacred pronouncements of God, and you have gone back to needing milk, not solid food. 13 For everyone who continues to feed on milk is unacquainted with the word of righteousness, for he is a young child. 14 But solid food belongs to mature people, to those who through use have their powers of discernment* [Or “their perceptive powers.”] trained to distinguish both right and wrong." (Heb 5:11-14)

To train your "powers of discernment" and improve your quality of reasoning "through use" and in so doing prepare your mind to combat both right- and leftwing propaganda and politics, you could try this playlist:

Real science, knowledge of realities compared to unverified philosophies and stories
edit on 14-10-2018 by whereislogic because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 14 2018 @ 04:07 AM
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originally posted by: CaliMayh3m

Communism IS fascism. Now, I know that plenty here will argue that they are not the same thing. Fine. I think however, that most of us can agree that they both suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.

The thing they share is their love, promotion and use* of Nationalism (*: if you're talking about Communist or Fascist propagandists).

Nationalism. One dictionary defines nationalism as “a sense of national consciousness exalting one nation above all others and placing primary emphasis on promotion of its culture and interests as opposed to those of other nations.” Ivo Duchacek, a professor of political science, observed in his book Conflict and Cooperation Among Nations: “Nationalism divides humanity into mutually intolerant units. As a result people think as Americans, Russians, Chinese, Egyptians, or Peruvians first, and as human beings second​—if at all.” A former UN secretary-general wrote: “So many of the problems that we face today are due to, or the result of, false attitudes​—some of them have been adopted almost unconsciously. Among these is the concept of narrow nationalism​—‘my country, right or wrong.’”

Source: Prejudice and Discrimination—Getting to the Roots: Awake! 2009

Anyone playing on people's "sense of national consciousness exalting one nation above all others and placing primary emphasis on promotion of its culture and interests as opposed to those of other nations" below you think?


What about the Democrats, are they cleverly manipulating people's conditioned and indoctrinated nationalistic and patriotic sentiments (as defined under "Nationalism")?

Don't think of Nationalism as somehow being opposed to Globalism. Or a healthy counter vs Globalist propaganda (as depicted by the right-wing Republicans most of the time, like Trump).

Nazi Party - Wikipedia

The party was created as a means to draw workers away from communism and into völkisch nationalism.

Since I brought up Globalism which is connected to the topic of Globalization:
Can Globalization Really Solve Our Problems? Awake!—2002

Is Globalization a Solution?

Like many of mankind’s projects, globalization has proved both useful and harmful. It has brought economic advantages to some, and it has ushered in an era of global communications. Nevertheless, it favors the rich and the powerful over the poor and the needy. And both criminals and disease viruses have exploited the advantages of globalization more efficiently than governments.​—See boxes on pages 8 and 9.

To a large extent, globalization has magnified the problems that already existed in our imperfect world. Rather than offering a solution to the world’s difficulties, it has become part of the problem. Social divisions have become greater, and frustration has mounted. Governments around the world struggle to harness the benefits of globalization while protecting their citizens against its excesses. Will they be successful? Could globalization with a human face be the answer? The following article will analyze these questions.

A Globalization That Will Benefit You
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posted on Oct, 14 2018 @ 10:20 AM
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a reply to: toysforadults

...the FBI found nothing on Kav. They found nothing on Trump when they investigated him either.

Schuyler is correct



posted on Oct, 14 2018 @ 10:30 AM
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a reply to: toysforadults

But the left are doing the same thing and worse that they were crying about during the election. Instead of showing they are morally superior that they claim they are, they are stooping to the level they supposedly abhor. Instead of rising above the fray, the left are demonstrating hypocrisy at it's finest. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Maybe now the right will start demanding safe spaces too, with hot cocoa and coloring books.



posted on Oct, 15 2018 @ 06:05 AM
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a reply to: Outlier13

Fortunately for myself, what you think I know or understand is of little consequence or importance to me. Secondly, if you think Trump will 'Make America Great Again' or somehow isn't the poster boy for the Elites/PTB, that he really is, you are either extremely naive or very much a shill. I pray for your sake it's just naivety...That at least is understandable and forgivable...



posted on Oct, 15 2018 @ 07:16 AM
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You guys remember when ATS had the motto under the logo? I do. It's not there anymore
You have to go to the about page to find our motto. It's the still under the logo when you choose to join this website. It's our motto. I wish it was branded everywhere on here.

www.abovetopsecret.com...




The simple yet effective motto of our membership is "deny ignorance", which signifies an effort to apply the principals of critical thought and peer review to the provocative topics covered within. More than a slogan, our members have embraced the motto as our collective cultural standard, demanding all to aspire to a higher standard. These simple two words have galvanized a broad membership that spans the spectrum from highly speculative conspiracy writers to staunch doubters. The result is a unique collaboration of diverse individuals rallying under this simple statement to learn from each other, discover new truths, and imagine new ideas that expand our minds.

This motto has life. It has purpose. It demands ATS members to think.

It is a state of mind.

It is a sense of purpose.

It is a statement against the paradigm.

It is a rage against the mindless status-quo.

The idea of "deny ignorance" isn't a goal that ATS hopes to accomplish. Instead, it's a challenge. A call to all those who come here to aspire to a higher state of awareness through informed discussion and debate.

Deny ignorance is what we do.

It's how we think. It's how we talk. It's how we listen.

Ignorance is the social disease of history. Is the evil that men do, the reason history repeats, and the cause of intolerance.

We deny it. it's not welcome here. Within these boundaries, it has no strength.

Here, ignorance is denied.


This has become a very different site than the one I used to lurk on for years before joining. This site no longer feels like one that denies ignorance. It honestly feels like a pit of confirmation bias. Sadly, I believe it has become just like any other social media website. People post pictures on Instagram and when they see that someone hearted their post they get a dopamine kick. Feel like ATS has become nothing different, just substitute the hearts for stars.

I think a huge problem with this site is that the one liner rule is not implemented at all. Users are constantly dropping posts with a singe line that has no substance, as if this were a youtube comment section.

The very first reply to this thread was two words and at this moment has +47 stars. He made a one liner which against the standard of this website and he has +47 stars. Do you see how that should be a problem? Sure he got a nice little dopamine feel from all those stars, but it did nothing for the thread.

It's been hard to watch happen. It really hurts to see this website, one I started coming to as a teen, a website that shaped my teenage mind with amazing ideas, degrade into what it is today. I don't post often because the content has changed so much, but when I do I will try to be the change I want to see. Hope you guys have a nice night.




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