Bye bye Red-State democrats

Seems the Red State Democrats (who desperately need support from the pro-Trump crowd) will be losing even more seats to genuine Republicans. Why settle for a fake democrat when you can have the real thing?

The US Senate voted 51-49 in favor of the cloture motion to set up a final vote on Kavanaugh's confirmation on Saturday.

Judging this is down party lines (as expected), I have to say I'm disgusted with our failed congress/Senate.

Judging this is down party lines (as expected), I have to say I'm disgusted with our failed congress/Senate.

Why is this representative of a failure in Congress ? No one is forced to vote either way.
And , BTW , you should have stated either Congress or House/Senate . Not Congress/Senate.

a reply to: JBurns

This was stated day 1. No votes just because.

a reply to: JBurns

I wouldn't count the chickens before they're hatched.

November is a lifetime away. In fact, once could argue that if Kavanaugh gets his seat, by the time November rolls around, the left will swarm to vote and the right (as is all too often the case) will think their objective was accomplished and will have largely forgotten what the Dems tried to do to Kavanaugh.

Whether Kavanaugh makes it through the votes now or not, the ultimate final verdict comes in November elections.

The democrats went way too far with the politics of personal destruction this time and exposed themselves as the desperate evil corrupt power hungry group they really are, like never before to the American people.

The best part is they don't seem to realize the damage they have done to themselves in this process yet. But they will soon enough.

imo

a reply to: JBurns

Meh, Republicans are no better than democrats. And most "pro-Trump" Republicans are only that insofar as they are afraid of their Trump supporting voters.

None of them should be trusted and they all need a close eye kept on them.

a reply to: watchitburn

Both suck, but Democrats want to destroy the foundation of the country.

a reply to: ausername

The funny thing is all the left had to do for 2-4 years was play it cool, calm and collected. Iron out their ideas, fortify their platform and defeat Trump in 2020 in a landslide and rule the country for the next 20-30 years- - but they just couldn't help themselves. Simply because the socialist in reality is the same rabid animal as the worst offending corporate oligarch. Enough is never enough. Greed reigns supreme no matter what side of the aisle you are sitting on.

Control is the most addicting, deleterious drug for humankind.

originally posted by: sooth
a reply to: ausername

The funny thing is all the left had to do for 2-4 years was play it cool, calm and collected. Iron out their ideas, fortify their platform and defeat Trump in 2020 in a landslide and rule the country for the next 20-30 years- - but they just couldn't help themselves. Simply because the socialist in reality is the same rabid animal as the worst offending corporate oligarch. Enough is never enough. Greed reigns supreme no matter what side of the aisle you are sitting on.

Control is the most addicting, deleterious drug for humankind.

The Democrat party isn't the party that USE to support the working class as they pretended to in the past. Now they have become the party of Anarchy and Marxism.

When I hear them use the term "Democracy" in their rants it just sends shivers down me spine.

originally posted by: sooth
a reply to: ausername

The funny thing is all the left had to do for 2-4 years was play it cool, calm and collected. Iron out their ideas, fortify their platform and defeat Trump in 2020 in a landslide and rule the country for the next 20-30 years- - but they just couldn't help themselves. Simply because the socialist in reality is the same rabid animal as the worst offending corporate oligarch....

This is so true.

Trump and his administration have many policy vulnerabilities...and the left has lost its opportunity to capitalize upon them.

Instead they have shown the American public that the cure is far worse than the disease. As bad as Trump's style and rhetoric are, the left looks much, much worse.

But leaving all of that aside. The left also missed an amazing opportunity to make substantial headway on many political issues. Trump was NEVER a traditional 'Republican' president. The Democrats could have worked with him to accomplish many of their goals, still criticized him for real policy differences, and taken the lion's share of the credit for any accomplishments.

"He did this because WE made him," would have been very persuasive to many in the public.

When history writes what has happened in these years, I'm convinced it will say Trump's super power was in unmasking the left and right for the corrupted, unprincipled actors that they have truly become.

Why are you guys so all in with this guy?

Didn't he screw up the vince foster case and let the Clintons off the hook?

originally posted by: toysforadults
Why are you guys so all in with this guy?

Didn't he screw up the vince foster case and let the Clintons off the hook?

Because Trump likes him, and Democrats don't.

You are assuming people can still think for themselves. They can't.
(Well, most)

originally posted by: ausername
Whether Kavanaugh makes it through the votes now or not, the ultimate final verdict comes in November elections.

The democrats went way too far with the politics of personal destruction this time and exposed themselves as the desperate evil corrupt power hungry group they really are, like never before to the American people.

The best part is they don't seem to realize the damage they have done to themselves in this process yet. But they will soon enough.

imo

You assume that a good portion of the democratic voters are thinking logically....unfortunately it's tribal and will only get more tribal as time passes on...it's not about who's right and who's wrong..it's get their guy in from their team...both sided operate in this fashion and it has nothing to do with democracy..

originally posted by: loam

originally posted by: sooth
a reply to: ausername

The funny thing is all the left had to do for 2-4 years was play it cool, calm and collected. Iron out their ideas, fortify their platform and defeat Trump in 2020 in a landslide and rule the country for the next 20-30 years- - but they just couldn't help themselves. Simply because the socialist in reality is the same rabid animal as the worst offending corporate oligarch....

This is so true.

Trump and his administration have many policy vulnerabilities...and the left has lost its opportunity to capitalize upon them.

Instead they have shown the American public that the cure is far worse than the disease. As bad as Trump's style and rhetoric are, the left looks much, much worse.

But leaving all of that aside. The left also missed an amazing opportunity to make substantial headway on many political issues. Trump was NEVER a traditional 'Republican' president. The Democrats could have worked with him to accomplish many of their goals, still criticized him for real policy differences, and taken the lion's share of the credit for any accomplishments.

"He did this because WE made him," would have been very persuasive to many in the public.

When history writes what has happened in these years, I'm convinced it will say Trump's super power was in unmasking the left and right for the corrupted, unprincipled actors that they have truly become.

This is where leadership is paramount. The opportunity could've and should've been recognized but the left is void of genuine leadership.

Thus, they've become a bag of bumbling asses. True representation of the donkey!

a reply to: loam

if he is voted in we are looking at pretty much the main weapon the dems will be using every night on every news channel until the elections. at least we are getting closer to that Nov. date and stuff should quiet back down some.

originally posted by: cognizant420
a reply to: loam

if he is voted in we are looking at pretty much the main weapon the dems will be using every night on every news channel until the elections. at least we are getting closer to that Nov. date and stuff should quiet back down some.

I don't see anything quieting down. As a matter of fact I see Bill Ayers type Weather Underground tactics to start popping up. If you haven't noticed, we are dealing with a fringe group of psychopaths that feel if they don't get their way, violence and destruction is a perfectly acceptable norm to achieve their goal.

If I had to choose a politician type, the blue dog democrats were the closest to my own beliefs but they have been slowly purged since the ACA.

a reply to: seeker1963

Agreed.

If Kavanaugh is defeated, the left will be rewarded for their tactics. All of the horses will be out of the barn then.

Meanwhile:

I'm a Never-Trumper, and I'm Voting for Trump in 2020.

I find myself in an odd position where, for the first time, I see myself, one of the original so-called "Never Trump conservatives," voting for Trump in 2020. I have inevitably concluded at times that Trump would do something to push me away from him. He has not disappointed on that front, from tariffs to character issues. But now I do not see how anyone else can offer a more compelling alternative to the president. Each time the president does something I do not like, his opponents play a game of "hold my beer."

...[Trump] is positively angelic compared to his political opponents and the press.

Between Trump and his opposition, I would rather vote for him, despite his flaws... Trump is neither an ambassador for my values nor the articulate champion of my principles I would prefer. But he is a safe harbor in a progressive storm that seeks to both destroy my values and upend our constitutional republic.

Pretty much sums it up.

I will never tire of winning...

With the whining of leftists, the victories are all the more enjoyable...

-Chris