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posted on Oct, 4 2018 @ 12:35 PM
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One thing I've noticed - given the recent failure of Senate Dems to prevent or meaningful obstruct Kavanaugh's ascension to the SCOTUS - is democrats tend to use the exact same excuses we hear communists/socialists throwing out there.

A communist/socialist says: Communism/socialism would work, but it has never been tried! or Our socialist society is only failing because of outside interference!

A democrat says: We speak for the majority of America, but the GOP controls every branch of the federal government + most state governments due to: gerrymandering, Russian hacking, Russian influence, GOP "collusion," dark money in politics, sexism, racism, misogyny (AKA they are resisting our resistance to their imposition of gynocentrism)

Cut the excuses out. You aren't winning any brownie points with the ever-dwindling numbers of fence sitters, indy voters and single issue voters.




posted on Oct, 4 2018 @ 12:45 PM
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a reply to: JBurns

I just don't see the connection between commies and socialists and the democrats. The democrats seem to be greedy capitalist just like everyone else.


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posted on Oct, 4 2018 @ 12:48 PM
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a reply to: JBurns

A democrat, a socialist, and a communist walked into a bar.

The bartender looked up and said, "Hi Kevin".





posted on Oct, 4 2018 @ 12:49 PM
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It's an ideological progression or devolution of sorts. Seen it first hand a few times.

First you're a democrat but that's not trendy enough. So you adopt the socialist title and grow a man-bun. Realizing as a socialist you can't actually force your ideological superiority on anyone. You latch onto communism the one system that can force people to submit to your way of thinking.

Meanwhile the rest of us moderates realize the only way to stop this is to vote against it. There will be no "blue wave". There will be no great socialist uprising.



posted on Oct, 4 2018 @ 12:49 PM
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originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: JBurns

I just don't see the connection between commies and socialists and the democrats. The democrats seem to be greedy capitalist just like everyone else.


The party leadership is most certainly capitalistic but they pander to the extreme left...



posted on Oct, 4 2018 @ 12:51 PM
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a reply to: olaru12

You are right to a large degree olaru, but there is a segment within the party that is strong far-left socialist/communist. There are also anarchists who mistakenly believe such is a left wing position (it is more right wing)

But largely I am just referring to the endless stream of excuses we always have to hear about the election and their agenda in general. The worst part is that the right wing shares a lot of those same objectives and political stances (minus the divisive wedge issues and attempts to limit/regulate Constitutional rights)

As far as government regulation & interpretation of the Constitution goes... I see a major problem. The Constitution exists to constrain the government and protect us, therefore giving them the ability to interpret/regulate it is nonsensical. It is like giving a bank robber the keys to the vault and telling him his duty is to protect the money



posted on Oct, 4 2018 @ 12:52 PM
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originally posted by: JBurns


A democrat says: We speak for the majority of America, but the GOP controls every branch of the federal government + most state governments due to: gerrymandering, Russian hacking, Russian influence, GOP "collusion," dark money in politics, sexism, racism, misogyny (AKA they are resisting our resistance to their imposition of gynocentrism)


Well, apropos to what you've already said, the Democrats did in fact get ~1 million more votes this last presidential election, so technically what you've attributed to them saying isn't incorrect when viewed through a literal lens of 'majority'.



posted on Oct, 4 2018 @ 12:52 PM
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Democrats often do all they can to hide the fact that the House Districts are for the most part divided by equal population.

So that means a majority in the House actually represents the majority of the population.

The Senate may be a different story, but maybe not.

Each Senator technically represents half their state's population but it's not that simple.

👱‍♀️



posted on Oct, 4 2018 @ 12:53 PM
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a reply to: Wayfarer

In condensed areas.

They keep forgetting about that part.

👧



posted on Oct, 4 2018 @ 12:54 PM
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a reply to: olaru12

And that is likely because you don't see that everyone who understands reality in a way that is different from your understanding conflates EVERYTHING else as wrong.



posted on Oct, 4 2018 @ 12:55 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: JBurns

A democrat, a socialist, and a communist walked into a bar.

The bartender looked up and said, "Hi Kevin".






A Democrat, a Socialist, and DBCowboy walk into a bar.

4 hours later, the Democrat and Socialist leave.

Buhdoom-tssssss




posted on Oct, 4 2018 @ 12:55 PM
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a reply to: JAY1980

It is sad because mainstream Dems bring a lot of energy and good ideas to the table. The classical liberal position of "always more liberty, never less" is both respectable and extremely patriotic. That position is probably about as American as it gets


They just refuse to realize that the more they latch onto divisive wedge/fringe issues, the more they attack our Constitutional rights (by supporting more taxes and regulation of Constitutional rights by the government) and the more they align with extremist segments of the far left the more losses they incur. They have already lost the entire federal government and the majority of state houses. County by county, in 2016, the map was a sea of red. Yet our neighboring State went 70% for Trump and still elected a red-state Democrat senator and governor. So Democrats can still win elections, but only where they are moderate, reasonable, sane and most importantly liberal - but the true meaning of liberal not this "man bun" "soy boy" bunch we were talking about



posted on Oct, 4 2018 @ 12:55 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: Wayfarer

In condensed areas.

They keep forgetting about that part.

👧


I'm not sure I understand you. Majority implies >50% of the total. Total in this case being voters/votes cast (as an indication of those who wanted to take party in the political process obviously). Of the total amount of votes cast, ~1 million more were cast for the Democratic Candidate than the Republican Candidate. I'm not referencing electoral votes or the census distribution of representatives per-capita.



posted on Oct, 4 2018 @ 12:56 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: JBurns

A democrat, a socialist, and a communist walked into a bar.

The bartender looked up and said, "Hi Kevin".






Made my day reading that DBCowboy 😁



posted on Oct, 4 2018 @ 12:57 PM
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a reply to: Wayfarer

If California contains 50% of the US population total (just an example number, I know it isn't anywhere near this) should it get 50% of say in the government? Of course not, the USA is a Union of individual States not people

Why should smaller states remain in the Union if they don't get an equal say with government? The House of Reps was already a compromise on this, giving unequal representation in congress (which is offset by the Senate/electoral college, etc)



posted on Oct, 4 2018 @ 12:59 PM
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originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: JAY1980

but the true meaning of liberal not this "man bun" "soy boy" bunch we were talking about


C'mon man. You've actually become a really respectable poster (even though I don't agree with you much), and I've really appreciated your relatively even keeled approach to topics and how you present them, but insults just seem petty for you.

What does peoples prerogatives for diet and hairstyle have anything to do with it?



posted on Oct, 4 2018 @ 01:00 PM
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A Democrat, a Socialist and a Communist walk into a bar and orders 1 beer.



posted on Oct, 4 2018 @ 01:02 PM
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a reply to: JBurns

You know what is undemocratic? Giving specific voters voices more power than others.

But you do your thing, the world knows about it and watches.



posted on Oct, 4 2018 @ 01:02 PM
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originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: Wayfarer

If California contains 50% of the US population total (just an example number, I know it isn't anywhere near this) should it get 50% of say in the government? Of course not, the USA is a Union of individual States not people

Why should smaller states remain in the Union if they don't get an equal say with government? The House of Reps was already a compromise on this, giving unequal representation in congress (which is offset by the Senate/electoral college, etc)


Oh I'm not trying to debate the merit of a representative democracy vs a true democracy or the reasoning/importance behind the electoral college and protection of minorities built into the constitution. I was merely remarking on the base elements of your quote in a literal fashion. Technically by the definition of 'majority' they do indeed speak for the majority (assuming we're only counting folks who voted as being represented on account of non-voters not caring enough to vote).

Suffice to say, there are good arguments for/against a minority of people ruling the majority, and vice-versa. I think that would be a really good separate topic for another thread (so as not to dilute the thrust of your OP).



posted on Oct, 4 2018 @ 01:03 PM
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a reply to: Wayfarer

And how did that popular vote translate to Democratic wins... anywhere?

Meanwhile, the generic polling data that had Democrats 20 points ahead a few months ago now is showing a 2 point lead... within the statistical margin of error.

So whatever the Dems are doing they need to keep doing it.





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