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posted on Oct, 4 2018 @ 10:53 AM
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a reply to: Fools

I did most of the things on OP's list.

My kids were born in Big City. They've been raised on a steady diet of stories about small town life in the 80s, and wanted out of urban hell. At the same time, I had gotten an empty suburban lot and permission (over massive objection from the city) to garden the whole lot, and put bees in. And as many chickens as the law would allow (which is 2 hens. they have to be pets, not livestock producing food. Cause apparently it is a huge moral failing to grow your own food...).

I managed to hone my fishing and hunting skills to where almost all of our food came from the garden, the lake, or the woods. And then I started buying raw milk on the "green market" for my kids, and they quit getting sick.

Then about 3 years ago, we got a job opportunity and pie-eyed it for the countryside.

There are is a much higher limit to what animals I can keep. And the cost of running my own well is probably $30 a month. And my kids play in the woods behind our house. They go hunting and play 'survival' and 'alone.' Nobody telling me I have to have a water intensive yard full of Kentucky bluegrass in the desert west of the US of A. (seriously, how is xeriscaping illegal anywhere in Texas that has water issues?!?!?!)

I am as free as I've ever been. Because I'm as far away from the courthouse as possible.


/rant on

The dissolution of the family isn 't due to rock music or pornography or drugs. It is due to the fact that the family in the urban US has ceased to be the unit of production. For your grandparents, if they were going to get rich it was because the whole family worked on their farm; or the whole family helped run the family store. If you got rich it would be working with your family, not working for a major corporation. (which did exist, but mainly employed urban immigrants).

Today's modern family doesn't even eat a meal together in a given week. The only time the family "gets together" is for Christmas break or on vacation, when they will join together and spend mass amounts of money, which they will spend the rest of the year trying to pay back. Spending money together is no basis for a family relationship. Back in the day, marriages lasted, and families cohered, because they were producing wealth together..

/rant off

For that reason, we produce as much of our own stuff as possible. My kids are learning how to work (at food production) and learning to work with others, toward a group goal. It is a hell of a lot cheaper to grow your own tomatoes, instead of paying a dollar apiece at the grocery, for tomotoes from Argentina. My kids are learning hands on how to work. They have built our chicken coop out of found materials. The teenagers have become skilled carpenters. Now, the ones who are old enough are planning to go to college and have urban careers. But, if anything, they are more advanced than their peers because they have problem-solving skills and interpersonal skills that the kids playing video games never master.




posted on Oct, 4 2018 @ 10:58 AM
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a reply to: tovenar

I can get into that. I am conservative. But what am I conserving?

I think really the point these days is that it has devolved into cultural warfare and that is directly related to the 30 or more years of cultural marxist preaching from ivory towers (univerities) and glamorous smut pits (hollywood).

And even moreso since Trump, the active attempt by left wing power sources to actually deny and censor opinions they disagree with as well as facts that prove they are incorrect about certainties they hold dear.

So you may want to go back to live and let live, but I think its too late. I think live and let die is the deal these days.



posted on Oct, 4 2018 @ 11:12 AM
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I concur with all your points!

a reply to: tovenar



posted on Oct, 4 2018 @ 11:19 AM
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a reply to: Fools


agreed. the young womyn I was talking with had hatred for Texans because of who they are, and not because they weren't supporting Robert "Beto" O'Rourke. (Which is about as cynical a job of race-pandering as anything since Hillary Clinton was preaching in an AME church in Chicago's south side on a Sunday morning, talkin' that jive, the way that the folks do.)

The womyn hates a whole state of the USA, because it's people talk differnt and eat differnt and don't really give a rip about music that you can't dance to. And I'm sure zie would tell you that zie doesn't want to live in a country where "those people" are allowed to be themselves and be ignorant and just... be. Without any sense of irony or self-reflection that er is just as bigoted as any villager living in a mud hut on a hillside in Afghanistan.



posted on Oct, 4 2018 @ 12:12 PM
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a reply to: tovenar

Dogging people with yo fancy terms.
At least get it right.

Tonic clonic seizure



posted on Oct, 4 2018 @ 12:22 PM
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It’s called a platform. Words have meanings.


originally posted by: oriondc
You’re such an independent critical thinker you have to label not only yourself but others. Okay.



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