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Kanye West delivers pro-Trump speech on 'Saturday Night Live,' receives boos from audience

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posted on Oct, 2 2018 @ 04:20 PM
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a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

The obvious, albeit politically suicidal answer is black people commit more crimes per capita than other races do. We can argue all day over the "why," but this is a statistic which isn't really disputable.




posted on Oct, 2 2018 @ 04:20 PM
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a reply to: LSU2018

"Cuping her mouth" Is that some new euphemism for covering her mouth so she can't scream?



posted on Oct, 2 2018 @ 04:24 PM
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originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: Edumakated

"Crime" speaks to Jim Crow, in my mind.

MJ laws are a great start....it used to be a minority intoxicant. And that minority intoxicant was made illegal, so people who partook were instant criminals.

How many laws do we have that seem to target specific people?


Selectively applied hate crime legislation, most of the juvenile versus adult record crimes were put in place to protect minorities from entering adulthood already with records, affirmative action compliance laws... there are a number of laws that target specific people... just not in the vein I believe you were probing for.



posted on Oct, 2 2018 @ 04:32 PM
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a reply to: LSU2018

I dont think so.



posted on Oct, 2 2018 @ 04:33 PM
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a reply to: Edumakated

I would argue that now it's more a class issue. However in the past it was a race issue and because of that a large number of black people have been forced in to the lower class.

Just look at drug laws. When marijuana and heroin were made illegal they were primarily associated with the jazz (read: black) culture. Fast forward to the 80s and the punishment for crack, a penalty black drug, was more severe than coc aine, a primarily white drug. Even today coc aine is the only "hard drug" that is not rated as Schedule I by the FDA.

It's not really until the 90s/00s that you are a hard crackdown on drugs that are primarily associated with poor white people. Namely crystal meth. By then the black community had pretty much been the sole focus of drug laws for almost over 50 years.

Yes, laws are now more focused on keeping the poor down (I mean a lot of these ADHD drugs primarily used by the middle and upper classes are essentially crystal meth). But that's only after decades of laws that attempted to keep the black community poor.



posted on Oct, 2 2018 @ 04:33 PM
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a reply to: LSU2018

Silly assumption you know...



posted on Oct, 2 2018 @ 04:35 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: Edumakated

I would argue that now it's more a class issue. However in the past it was a race issue and because of that a large number of black people have been forced in to the lower class.

Just look at drug laws. When marijuana and heroin were made illegal they were primarily associated with the jazz (read: black) culture. Fast forward to the 80s and the punishment for crack, a penalty black drug, was more severe than coc aine, a primarily white drug. Even today coc aine is the only "hard drug" that is not rated as Schedule I by the FDA.

It's not really until the 90s/00s that you are a hard crackdown on drugs that are primarily associated with poor white people. Namely crystal meth. By then the black community had pretty much been the sole focus of drug laws for almost over 50 years.

Yes, laws are now more focused on keeping the poor down (I mean a lot of these ADHD drugs primarily used by the middle and upper classes are essentially crystal meth). But that's only after decades of laws that attempted to keep the black community poor.


If black community has been poor for decades AND they have been voting Democrat for decades, it's easy to suggest a solution.



posted on Oct, 2 2018 @ 04:36 PM
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SNL's skits often aren't funny yet we hear lots of laughter.
Who says they didn't use canned boos as well on Kanye?
Is there video showing audience disapproval?



posted on Oct, 2 2018 @ 04:48 PM
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a reply to: LSU2018

Im sure in your heart you believe that but tell it to the kid whos parents are drunks or addicted to drugs living day to day off the system in the slums where there is nothing but crime and poverty and infestations of all disgusting sorts. Tell that kid and that kid will likelyl flip you the bird and say yeah sure. oh I know the pull yourself up by your bootstraps approach but who teaches that kid the kind of self respect that takes. who sets the example for him or her to follow. Im sorry but the opportunities may be there but the road to them is not the same nor nearly as apparent as you seem to think to many.



posted on Oct, 2 2018 @ 05:15 PM
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originally posted by: Asktheanimals
SNL's skits often aren't funny yet we hear lots of laughter.
Who says they didn't use canned boos as well on Kanye?
Is there video showing audience disapproval?


Well, i dunno... last weekend's ?



posted on Oct, 2 2018 @ 05:20 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

Nope....but true nonetheless.



posted on Oct, 2 2018 @ 05:56 PM
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a reply to: sdcigarpig


I do find his sentiment, on getting rid of the 13th amendment to be disturbing, as it is the cornerstone of so many laws in the country, that would invalidate many laws that allowed for slavery, and Jim crow. Remove the 13 amendment and then those laws come back in force.


You're right... But Kanye's not entirely wrong either. For example, while I think there's a place for community service and other labor/services as restitution, I have a huge problem with private prisons and private corporations exploiting prisoners for their profit. As Trump pursues sentencing reform, and hopefully some prison reforms, these are very relevant issues.

So someone needs to skool Kanye on the finer points of his argument that he's missing. And let Kanye skool everyone on the finer points everyone else is missing.

National dialogues and debates are going to happen. We have to make the best and the most of them.



posted on Oct, 2 2018 @ 06:27 PM
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originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: LSU2018

Vox has a kinda sorta decent article which explains that Kanye's problem with the 13th Amendment is that it didn't end all slavery, as it still allows for involuntary servitude for those convicted and imprisoned, thus creating a profit incentive for ever more "crimes" to prosecute and incarcerate, with Blacks disproportionately affected.

The controversy over Kanye West’s 13th Amendment tweets, explained

I have much respect and appreciation for Kanye's efforts. He's an independent thinker because he's willing to learn and step outside his comfort zone. To really be effective, he needs to learn to express his thoughts better. But that will come with practice and experience.

I think I'd really enjoy a discussion with him here on ATS... it sure wouldn't be boring!


I agree with your observations and I too would welcome 'Ye to speak here as some call him.



posted on Oct, 2 2018 @ 06:40 PM
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originally posted by: StallionDuck

originally posted by: Specimen
How about some vintage classic debates, with a shot ton of class that you don't get to see anymore

He would most likely bash the conservative platforms, but in the above he talks about wolves wearing sheep clothing.

Also most of the YouTube comments are about how civil the convo is.

And triggered...you mean like a bomb or "ITS A TRAP".


This is why I despise Malcolm X.

In his eyes, no white person has the ability to be seriously, honestly and compassionately true toward their fellow man.

Guess us white folk have no heart nor soul.


Mr X changed that tune after he went to Mecca and saw blonde headed people living in peace as followers of Islam.

www.telegraph.co.uk...

blackthen.com...

www.nytimes.com...

Then shortly after he got whacked. I suspect by those who wanted him to continue hating on whites. Who benefited from his demise was fellow leaders in the Muslim culture of Black America? .... One leader is on my tongue but sinister rhymes with what they call him and better suited for him.




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posted on Oct, 2 2018 @ 06:47 PM
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originally posted by: ErrorErrorError

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
What I like about Kanye: he's provocative.

In fact, I say that he provokes the conversations that should actually happen.

Is he crazy? As a football bat. But he is speaking out against groupthink and social pressuring that results in group think. He's not wrong in that respect.


Groupthink you say.
Trump supporters exibit that behavior aswell. ATS is a proof that. You get labeled as a socialist, communist, globalist, fake news, libtard, Hillary lover, pedophile and whatnot if you criticize Trump. Isn't that social pressure? If a Hollywood actor criticizes Trump than he's a globalist pedophile, but when an entertainer such as Kanye, who's part of the very same elite you label as pedophiles , supports Trump than he's a free thinker.
You guys would be defending the Clintons If Hillary endorsed Trump tomorrow.
Full of crap.

Yes on groupthink of some of them. But you have to admit the Prog's make it real easy now to follow the bouncing lies. Liars to the left of me, jokers to the right, here I am stuck in the middle with some of you. I choose DJT since he was neither of them before running for office.

Now I realize how scummy the D's and RINO's are more than I ever realized too.

I for one will not give way to the real lies I see verses the supposed "probable lies" some feel Judge K or the POTUS was giving them.

NO on Hillary every where she goes she is still the Benghazi queen who decided their fate IMO.
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posted on Oct, 2 2018 @ 08:28 PM
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Yay! I think we'd have a blast. It would be fun and interesting.

I'm wondering now if he does post anywhere... He seems the type that would really get into it. I think he'd thrive on the back and forth.



posted on Oct, 2 2018 @ 09:10 PM
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originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: Justoneman

Yay! I think we'd have a blast. It would be fun and interesting.

I'm wondering now if he does post anywhere... He seems the type that would really get into it. I think he'd thrive on the back and forth.


Yes, I suspect Snoop Dog would degenerate but Kanye seems a deep thinker and his feelings real. Even if I don't agree to all he says or does, he was interesting without the MAGA hat and being a DJT supporter.



posted on Oct, 2 2018 @ 09:12 PM
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a reply to: Justoneman

Beautifully said


I think that's where most of us are at and are just doing our best to find the truth in the swamp of liars and jokers and some outright sociopaths.

Like whoever engineered this Kavanaugh fiasco. Its chilling how many people will condemn a man with no verifiable evidence... But I think the vast majority rightfully gets chills at the thought. This is backfiring. I hope it blows up in their faces for the whole world to see.

It has to get worse before it gets better, but we're not going to fix anything if we don't step outside the partisan echo chambers and find new perspectives and new solutions.



posted on Oct, 2 2018 @ 09:13 PM
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I used to dislike Kanye big time until that huge controversy a few months ago. Not because he came out for Trump but I watched the 2 interviews he did I saw someone who is thinking deeply.

I think he really cares and has a big heart but he is also a deeply creative mind and struggles to express it.

I get it. I hope he continues to challenge the status quo and push boundaries.



posted on Oct, 3 2018 @ 05:16 AM
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Do these liberal idiots know how weak they make the country look by being so disrespectful to the president?

But its hollyweird and it's a very close minded group. If you are not a liberal they will chew you up and spit you out.

Surprised its acceptable to boo anything a black man has to say in liberal land.
Bunch of racist



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