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Insidious depths of Dark Web - murder, kidnapping, torture, rape for hire - fighting this evil

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posted on Oct, 1 2018 @ 10:22 PM
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So the newest 48 hours is based on issues related to the Dark/Deep web and it is really disturbing. This episode focused on murder for hire but they made it clear that things like kidnapping, human trafficking, prostitution, torture, rape, child porn, arson, robbery, stolen items, counterfeits (art, jewelry, etc) and of course sale of drugs and firearms (probably explosives and other related materials as well) are supposedly available if you know the right place to go. Can anyone think of other things that may be available on these sites? I'm just trying to get an idea of the full scope of things that are offered up for sale by people on these places.

The show made it look extremely easy and relatively inexpensive to find someone to commit murder for hire (hitman) and even less for other services. The price people charge to take a life seem to be more on par as the rate for stealing/selling a mid level new car (say a $35-50,000 car) and not the amount of money it would need to take a person's life. This was really sickening.

This reminds me of the movie "Hostel" which was maybe the most disturbing movie I've ever seen and still regret viewing it through my fingers while covering my eyes/face. It seems like the people offering these services are mainly younger people from 20-40 years old, which makes sense due to the technology needed and I think we will need people of similar age group, or even younger (computer prodigies or "extreme nerds"), to help figure out ways to track, identify and trap these people offering these services.

What I'm wondering is if life insurance pays out for murder or suicide. If a person holds a life insurance policy on someone and that person is murdered, does the insurance company pay out the full amount? Does this work the same way with suicide and if it doesn't how does it work with suicide because I have heard different stories of people collecting life insurance policies from acts of suicide - is there something special that has to happen like a special policy or some factor of the actual suicide event? Sorry these are dark topics, but most everything related to the dark web seems to be dark and disturbing and I'd like to learn what motivates some of these people b/c killing someone for $1,000 - $5,000 (3,000 miles away non-the less) just seems like there has to be an ulterior motive for doing so and I thought insurance may be a motivating factor.

Can someone take out a life insurance policy on another person (who they don't know) without the person who is insured knowing? If that is true, this seems like it should be highly illegal and immoral for certain.

How many of you have ever used the "dark web" or Deep web? I did 2x using TOR to access Silk Road just to see if it lived up to the hype. Did a little window shopping, compared pricing and claims of products and was honestly tempted to test it out just to see if it really worked, but better judgement came over me and I left the site and gargled & showered with hydrogen peroxide and then bleach (j/k but felt like I should have).




posted on Oct, 1 2018 @ 10:56 PM
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Anybody thinking of answering, think twice before you do.

☢🔰



posted on Oct, 1 2018 @ 11:06 PM
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a reply to: DigginFoTroof

It's an evil place to stay away from. The devil's Costco on the internet. A scary place where death will learn where you live, if you become a customer there. The things that are there can follow you beyond this life. Think about what that could mean.

I've looked before just to verify the insanity of the very idea of it exists. I am sure people use it to get contraband and don't all get caught, but if you or I did it would be sure to get caught, just because that's how it always pans out.

It's always some other guy who wins the lottery or escapes the clutches of whatever danger lurks.


Also, Most life insurance won't pay out for an insured who suicides themselves.
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posted on Oct, 1 2018 @ 11:16 PM
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a reply to: DigginFoTroof

I've never delved into the dark web. I've heard too many stories about getting really bad computer viruses from messing around on there. Also I don't want to see anything that I can't unsee- that has happened a few times even on the regular web!



posted on Oct, 1 2018 @ 11:20 PM
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No way.

I only look at jesus websites.

90% of those sites are honeypots dude.

Don't get arrested for clicking the wrong clicker.


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posted on Oct, 1 2018 @ 11:21 PM
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Can someone take out a life insurance policy on another person (who they don't know) without the person who is insured knowing? If that is true, this seems like it should be highly illegal and immoral for certain.


I believe that is true, but might be by state.

Companies do for employees, and not just important ones.



posted on Oct, 2 2018 @ 12:21 AM
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posted on Oct, 2 2018 @ 01:02 AM
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This is merely propaganda against anonymity. Do yourself a favor and just do a search on the internet and anonymity. There is a big push by the elite to rid people of the right to be anonymous on the web. The "dark web" is their boogeyman to scare you over to their side. The truth is that the extreme bad stuff on the dark web is extremely rare. And of the bad things you listed, taking away those people's anonymity to do these things on the internet simply means that they would be moving their business back to the streets where it was done before - which would mean even more innocent people getting hurt.

The FBI is already policing and monitoring the dark web and I know for a fact that the powers that be don't want to shut down the traffic on the dark web because that is how the powers that be communicate with one another. If they removed all of the other extraneous traffic then it would be just them there and it would make their communications all that much easier to track. So once again, this panic porn report is meant as nothing more than an attack on your right to anonymity on the web, deep, dark or otherwise.

Don't fall for it.



posted on Oct, 2 2018 @ 01:21 AM
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a reply to: sooth

Actually it could be that some people just want to have a chat about it, cause the tone of the post was kinda chit chatty. In fact I would have placed it in chitchat. This topic makes me think of some other things in fact that are mysteries to me that I might start subjects on just to chat..



posted on Oct, 2 2018 @ 02:05 AM
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a reply to: DigginFoTroof

It would seem highly suspicious when you take out a life insurance on a stranger and he dies a coupĺe days later...i'd recon questions would be asked.

But ordering somebody unalive via a hitman really isn't that costly anymore. Maybe it has to do with supply and demand but quality goes a long way.

In this day and age you'd probably can get somebody off-ed for under a hunderd bucks but you'd have to rely on a crack coc aine junkie to do the job.

The $50.000 hitman just delivers a higher quality job with no evidence pointing in your direction.

The darkweb might facilitate in getting business and customer together but without it they would still find eachother...

Peace
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posted on Oct, 2 2018 @ 03:28 AM
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So the show did you remind of hostel ? Says it all.
Show's hardly ever tell us the truth.

Silk Road ? Big honey pot !

Just don't go there , don't install russian-keyboard stay on FB and worship the ZuckBot , such a beautiful trauma



posted on Oct, 2 2018 @ 04:17 AM
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originally posted by: Mandroid7
No way.

I only look at jesus websites.

90% of those sites are honeypots dude.

Don't get arrested for clicking the wrong clicker.



I agree with that. I thought the same of Silk Road when it was up and running. I would have said 85-90% chance it was a honey pot run by CIA/DEA to line up a long list of CI's for the next 2 decades.



posted on Oct, 2 2018 @ 04:19 AM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
Anybody thinking of answering, think twice before you do.

☢🔰


WHAT? Answering my thread? What the heck? Nothing illegal here that can't be found out by calling insurance companies or other businesses. Go watch the newest 48 hours, they give a TON more details than what I put up.



posted on Oct, 2 2018 @ 04:22 AM
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originally posted by: roadgravel



Can someone take out a life insurance policy on another person (who they don't know) without the person who is insured knowing? If that is true, this seems like it should be highly illegal and immoral for certain.


I believe that is true, but might be by state.

Companies do for employees, and not just important ones.


This is what I heard. That there are some companies that pay people to find "sick" people who they can take life insurance out on and then they collect (both finder and recruiting company). I know I saw this on another news show a few years back and I thought this HAD to be mis-represented as that is totally messed up.

I think there should be a law that anyone who takes a life insurance policy out on another person requires them to notify them via attorney, give them a copy of the contract and have them sign acknowledging receipt of said contract. They should also be allowed to refuse the contract IMHO.



posted on Oct, 2 2018 @ 04:33 AM
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a reply to: DigginFoTroof

That actually is totally messed up. ..



posted on Oct, 2 2018 @ 09:26 AM
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originally posted by: DigginFoTroof
So the newest 48 hours is based on issues related to the Dark/Deep web and it is really disturbing. This episode focused on murder for hire but they made it clear that things like kidnapping, human trafficking, prostitution, torture, rape, child porn, arson, robbery, stolen items, counterfeits (art, jewelry, etc) and of course sale of drugs and firearms (probably explosives and other related materials as well) are supposedly available if you know the right place to go. Can anyone think of other things that may be available on these sites? I'm just trying to get an idea of the full scope of things that are offered up for sale by people on these places.

The show made it look extremely easy and relatively inexpensive to find someone to commit murder for hire (hitman) and even less for other services. The price people charge to take a life seem to be more on par as the rate for stealing/selling a mid level new car (say a $35-50,000 car) and not the amount of money it would need to take a person's life. This was really sickening.

This reminds me of the movie "Hostel" which was maybe the most disturbing movie I've ever seen and still regret viewing it through my fingers while covering my eyes/face. It seems like the people offering these services are mainly younger people from 20-40 years old, which makes sense due to the technology needed and I think we will need people of similar age group, or even younger (computer prodigies or "extreme nerds"), to help figure out ways to track, identify and trap these people offering these services.

What I'm wondering is if life insurance pays out for murder or suicide. If a person holds a life insurance policy on someone and that person is murdered, does the insurance company pay out the full amount? Does this work the same way with suicide and if it doesn't how does it work with suicide because I have heard different stories of people collecting life insurance policies from acts of suicide - is there something special that has to happen like a special policy or some factor of the actual suicide event? Sorry these are dark topics, but most everything related to the dark web seems to be dark and disturbing and I'd like to learn what motivates some of these people b/c killing someone for $1,000 - $5,000 (3,000 miles away non-the less) just seems like there has to be an ulterior motive for doing so and I thought insurance may be a motivating factor.

Can someone take out a life insurance policy on another person (who they don't know) without the person who is insured knowing? If that is true, this seems like it should be highly illegal and immoral for certain.

How many of you have ever used the "dark web" or Deep web? I did 2x using TOR to access Silk Road just to see if it lived up to the hype. Did a little window shopping, compared pricing and claims of products and was honestly tempted to test it out just to see if it really worked, but better judgement came over me and I left the site and gargled & showered with hydrogen peroxide and then bleach (j/k but felt like I should have).







We only use 5% estimated of the normal web..the entire, average, used internet...worldwide-5%...

Stay outta the deep-end...



posted on Oct, 2 2018 @ 11:10 AM
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originally posted by: Ohthewey778
a reply to: DigginFoTroof

That actually is totally messed up. ..


Are ou talking about the topic or the fact that I brought it up and what i wrote about. I'm not saying anything new or unkown to people who have looked into the "deep web".

But I agree with you about the stuff being messed up. Don't shoot the messenger. I found the link online to this show, it's on CBS and the program is 48 hours, season 31 episode 1

The next three are clips from the 2 hour, 2 part special episode on 48 Hours "Click for a Killer" You'll get a little bit of an idea watching them, they each contain diff info.







Here is 48 Hours Youtube page, some users can view entire show

www.youtube.com...



Here is the link to the shows on the CBS site - if you disable your ad-blocker there is a very good chance you will be able to watch the whole thing.
Part 1

www.cbs.com...


Part 2

www.cbs.com...


If there is one thing that I think needs a task force to be initiated, hopefully in conjunction with non-law-enforcement agencies (citizen investigators and such) it is this topic. From what they describe it is MUCH too easy and inexpensive to hire someone to murder another person and all "anonymously" from setting it up to payment. I think there needs to be so many honey traps that this business model falls fast and hard.
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posted on Oct, 2 2018 @ 11:16 AM
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a reply to: DigginFoTroof

We can't afford to give you raise but we can afford to pay for life insurance payable to us.

Now, to finish working you to death.



posted on Oct, 2 2018 @ 11:45 AM
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a reply to: roadgravel

"Dead Peasant Insurance"



posted on Oct, 2 2018 @ 09:53 PM
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a reply to: DigginFoTroof

Ok so I know as much or little on the subject as most and since you did put this in unrest or whatever I'm going now.

I already made as much clear. Technically you could have read the tone of my words and figured out the comment order and not jumped to conclusions but you just..didn't.

Appreciate all vids and I may or may not look at them later..

Or I might just go back to mahh goathumping vids and Jeyysus websiiites..


Peace. ..
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