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Why I am extremely skepitical of Avenattis clients accusation

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posted on Sep, 26 2018 @ 03:52 PM
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Why have none of the accusers filed a police report?



Statement from the Montgomery County Police Department Regarding Victim Accusations of Supreme Court Nominee Brett Kavanaugh

September 24, 2018

Statement from the Montgomery County Police Department Regarding Victim Accusations of Supreme Court Nominee Brett Kavanaugh:

At this time, the Montgomery County Police Department has not received a request by any alleged victim nor a victim’s attorney to initiate a police report or a criminal investigation regarding Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh.

The Department recognizes that victims of sexual assault may not want to involve law enforcement and/or initiate a criminal investigation, and we respect that position. The Department, however, stands prepared to assist anyone who reports being the victim of a sexual assault.

Typically, in a sexual assault case, the cooperation of the victim or witnesses is necessary. As with any criminal investigation, a determination must be made as to the jurisdiction where the alleged offense occurred and the specific details of the event to establish a potential criminal charge.

Our Department is ready to investigate any claim of sexual assault that is alleged to have occurred within our County.





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posted on Sep, 26 2018 @ 04:01 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

This woman and the last woman reports on what happened sound very similar to the sex parties that certain members of an opposing party say doesn't happen. Strange that we have more people coming forward that are sharing these stories, and that they all have the same ring to them.


Let's just for fun go off the deep end for a minute before we come back to reality; It's very interesting that the first accuser had a personal bone to pick with the Kavanaugh family, and that she was trained in "Neuro-Linguistic-Programing" (also called hypnotism) She wrote several papers on the use and benefits of it.

Following her accusation, we then have another woman who stated her story to a magazine and her lawyer originally stated that if anyone wanted to hear her side of the story, then they can just go read the story. This woman doesn't even know if all the information so is claiming is even correct (in some cases of NLP the implanted information can seem disconnected to reality)

Now we have a third woman that has come forward and is claiming that she too may have been assaulted, but unlike the others, she is claiming that it happened at these rapey sex parties that she liked going to (or was she forced) In her case many of the minor details seem disconnected with what she is saying, even though she is claiming continuity with her statements. Could she also be a subject to NLP? In the last two women's cases they seem to remember the details after talking with a lawyer for 6 days, the same amount of time it takes to implant a false memory into a persona head using NLP. Another issue here to think about is that even though most of the people have been ignoring the rotted pig carcass in the room, but friend of banks everywhere George Soros has already been linked to the first two women, and I wonder how long it will be before he is linked to this last woman as well.


As I said when I started this rant, it is going off the deep end, and in that fashion I hope it's just me being conspiratorial about this event. Though I should point out that if Soros is using NLP to alter peoples memories for the sake of effecting politics and national judicial systems, then we shouldn't be shying away from this, and instead call it out for what it is; "A sad attempt to hold on to that dream of theirs for global domination".

Now that the Conspiracy talk is out of the way, isn't this piling on of new victims nothing more that than an analog variant of a DDoS attack? I mean they are popping up with new victims with shady stories, and using these vague storied victims to prevent a confirmation vote. It sounds to me at least like a DDoS attack.


How many more women will come out with similar stories, yet have no credible evidence to back up their statements. When will the opposition really try and jump the shark by introducing the effeminate male who was raped by these college boys, and now an only be gay due to it. This opposition movement is nothing more then a bowel obstruction rather then a movement.



posted on Sep, 26 2018 @ 04:01 PM
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a reply to: loam




Our Department is ready to investigate any claim of sexual assault that is alleged to have occurred within our County.


but nooooooooo i will go to Avanatti its much more cooler and effective because hes a Creepy Porn Lawyer



posted on Sep, 26 2018 @ 04:04 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

Swetnick claims that in 1982, after partying it up with this group 10 times, she was also gang raped. She believes that she was drugged with Quaaludes “or something similar placed in what I was drinking.”

No wonder she was angry...Took her ten times to make it to the 'A' list...

It'll be interesting if someone can find out how much she's making for her testimony...



posted on Sep, 26 2018 @ 04:06 PM
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a reply to: loam

Maybe they have family still in the area, and they worry what the local attention will be. Maybe they think that local law enforcement won’t really go the extra mile after all this time...

As long as we’re just speculating...



posted on Sep, 26 2018 @ 04:07 PM
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a reply to: kaylaluv

Or maybe they fear the accountability of making unsubstantiated claims.



posted on Sep, 26 2018 @ 04:08 PM
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a reply to: loam

Nobody knows the answer but them. All we can do is guess... My guess is as good as yours.



posted on Sep, 26 2018 @ 04:12 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler
3. Maybe most damning.

This woman claims she knew of these poor girls being gang raped. Yet she went back to these parties, again and again and again, and drank with these girls, and didnt warn them they were about to be raped.

That is horrible! What credibility does a person like that have?

Now people say "So what, she is saying kavaugh did the same thing" But is she?

She admits to basically being an accessory to rape. The only proof she offers that Kavanaugh knew of the rapes was that she saw him in a line of guys once, and assumed that line was to have sex with a girl. That doesnt prove it was rape, and doesnt even prove it was sex. She never claims to see kavanaugh or these guys in the line having sex.

So it is entirely possible to think that even if these gang rapes were occurring, Kavanaugh didnt know. The only person we know for sure knew was ms swetnick herself!


Technically, I think she worded this statement very carefully so as to not claim that anyone (but her) was raped. She claims that she saw a line of boys waiting to have sex with girls, but not that she personally watched them rape those girls. For all she (or anyone) knows, everyone in those rooms may have been having consensual sex.

She also claims that she witnessed "efforts by Judge, Kavanaugh, and others to cause girls to become inebriated and disoriented" to facilitate these sexual acts. That's a tough one for me, too, because of the way it's worded. If you've ever been to a bar, then you've probably witnessed both men and women make "efforts to cause others to become inebriated" to facilitate sex. Sometimes it works, a lot of times it doesn't.

I think they're serious allegations that need to be looked into, in part because there are true sexual assault victims who are harmed by a public dismissal of such claims (especially when there's a undercurrent of "she maybe kind of had it coming because she was drinking and shouldn't have been there anyway, and how credible is she anyway?").

But I'm skeptical of how carefully worded her statement is. It feels crafted to leave room for "technically I didn't say that." Even her very short statement on her own rape (which also makes me skeptical - why only four sentences of the entire thing dedicated to what sounds like a traumatic rape?) leaves room for "I didn't technically say he did it." If she knows they were present, then she knows who raped her. If she knows who raped her, it would lend a lot of credibility to her story to give those details. "I believe I was drugged, I woke up in a bedroom with Mark Kavanaugh raping me, there were four other boys in the room, when Kavanaugh left, Mark Judge raped me, eventually I was able to unlock the door and leave the room and was driven home by a friend..."

It would be good to hear from her witnesses. Will wait and see.



posted on Sep, 26 2018 @ 04:14 PM
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a reply to: kaylaluv

It's not a guess that if someone alleges a sex related crime, but prefers to litigate in the court of public opinion, rather than via actual authority, that something does not make sense.

Moreover, your assertion that "they have family still in the area, and they worry what the local attention will be" is just plain stupid. Who are you suggesting they should be fearful of? The police? Because last I checked using Avenatti to announce these claims via twitter does nothing to protect them from any local public reaction.

It's just shocking you think you said something meaningful.


edit on 26-9-2018 by loam because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 26 2018 @ 04:19 PM
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a reply to: loam

Ford wanted the FBI to investigate it, so your assertion that they prefer to litigate in the court of public opinion is just plain stupid.



posted on Sep, 26 2018 @ 04:22 PM
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a reply to: kaylaluv

In other words NOT the agency that has actual jurisdiction over the crime and can prosecute for it.

Stupid is asserting otherwise and calling that due process.



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posted on Sep, 26 2018 @ 04:25 PM
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a reply to: loam

The FBI can’t recommend prosecution following an investigation?



posted on Sep, 26 2018 @ 04:25 PM
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originally posted by: Jefferton

originally posted by: vinifalou

originally posted by: Jefferton

There really isn't anything else to debate.


That's because the situation isn't looking favorable to "your side".


My side is the calm and sane.

It's lonely here.

Now, I believe I said cheers. So, .


Lol...calm and sane...you go Sparticus!



posted on Sep, 26 2018 @ 04:28 PM
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a reply to: Weagle

As you say, she didn't accuse Kavanaugh of raping her or anyone else...That's not the point...The point is to imply that it's possible that he raped her, or at least he was waiting in line to rape someone...Not to have him prosecuted but to cause enough doubt in people's minds to influence the nomination...Like President Trump says, 'A Democrat' con job...



posted on Sep, 26 2018 @ 04:30 PM
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originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: loam

The FBI can’t recommend prosecution following an investigation?


The FBI is an LE agency. Like every other LE agency, they gather evidence, both physically and through interviews. That evidence is provided to prosecutors who then, based on the evidence provided them, make the decision whether to prosecute.

LE, to include the FBI, are supposed to be impartial while conducting investigations, collecting evidence without assessing guilt or innocence. That’s why there are several former FBI personalities currently in a bit of hot water...they forgot they were supposed to be impartial and apolitical.
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posted on Sep, 26 2018 @ 04:33 PM
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The FBI can only investigate FEDERAL crimes.

What is alleged by all three accusers are NOT federal crimes.

Straight from the horse's mouth:



Investigations, Grand Juries, and Arrests

If a crime is brought to the attention of federal authorities, whether by a victim of the crime or a witness to it (e.g., a bank robbery), a federal law enforcement agency will undertake an investigation to determine whether a federal offense was committed and, if so, who committed it. Two points should be kept in mind:

First: Not every crime is a federal offense. For example, murder is a crime in all 50 states, but it is not a federal offense unless, for example, a federal official is murdered while performing official functions. Robbery also is outlawed in every state, but it is not a federal offense unless there is some connection with the federal government, such as the robbery of a federally insured bank. Federal law enforcement agencies will investigate a crime only if there is reason to believe that the crime violated federal law.

Second: The nature of the federal offense may determine which agency undertakes the investigation. Not every federal law enforcement agency has the responsibility to investigate every crime. For example, the Secret Service is responsible for investigating counterfeiting of currency, and the FBI is the lead federal agency for terrorism cases. This assignment of functions helps different agencies develop expertise, but it also means that federal law enforcement agencies are not like local police forces—they do not each handle whatever federal crime comes their way.

FBI Link



So if any of these three 'victims' believed in what they assert, why wouldn't they seek accountability through the single means that would have the precise outcome one would presume they are seeking? Justice and accountability.

Give me a break. The stupidity of the call for an FBI investigation is stunning.

The only reason any of you are saying as much is because you seek to defeat his nomination and not because you're interested in real truth or justice.


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posted on Sep, 26 2018 @ 04:34 PM
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a reply to: Weagle

I thought the same as you about trying to get people inebriated to rape them.

That just sounded like someone offering someone else a drink at the bar on any given Friday or Saturday night.



posted on Sep, 26 2018 @ 04:38 PM
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originally posted by: Jefferton

originally posted by: vinifalou

originally posted by: Jefferton

There really isn't anything else to debate.


That's because the situation isn't looking favorable to "your side".


My side is the calm and sane.

It's lonely here.

Now, I believe I said cheers. So, .


Sane? Your "side" calls Lesbians bigots for not touching pre-op transgender men.



posted on Sep, 26 2018 @ 04:52 PM
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originally posted by: seeker1963
a reply to: Grambler


We need to find out who is paying Avanatti! Case closed! He isn't doing this for free!


DNC dark operations.

They're very busy this year.

💥🥁💥



posted on Sep, 26 2018 @ 04:55 PM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

Creepy Porn Lawyer Michael Avenatti, who could've guessed he'd be dragging new accusers out of the woodwork?

The confirmation must continue, if for no other reason than to show dems we are well aware of their dirty tricks and lies.




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