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Rendlesham Forest 1980 Pt II - Will There Be An Answer?

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posted on Nov, 4 2018 @ 10:26 AM
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a reply to: Baablacksheep

I dont want to get personal here, but those comments suggest to me that they haven't been asked..or at least that my take.




posted on Nov, 4 2018 @ 10:27 AM
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a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

I posted it as that is the latest re his thoughts nothing more. Others can pull it apart if they wish.



posted on Nov, 4 2018 @ 10:30 AM
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a reply to: pigsy2400

Sorry you have lost me . What are you talking about?



posted on Nov, 4 2018 @ 11:17 AM
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a reply to: Baablacksheep

It was a reply thr article with comments by Osborn... Come on Baa...



posted on Nov, 4 2018 @ 11:21 AM
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a reply to: pigsy2400

Ok. What about it? What are you wanting me to say? Its simply Osborns thoughts.



posted on Nov, 4 2018 @ 12:01 PM
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originally posted by: Baablacksheep

Keep watching the show The Gut.


I still am, Baa, but I went to Sam's for the combat-size box of popcorn.



posted on Nov, 4 2018 @ 12:14 PM
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a reply to: The GUT

The popcorn business must be making a killing!!






posted on Nov, 4 2018 @ 12:20 PM
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a reply to: Baablacksheep

I was reflecting on the comments on the post that you linked to.

That by Osborns comments regarding Penniston being marginalised and sidelined, it doesn't appear as though he has been asked by TTSA to participate in whatever it is in regards to Rendlesham they have going on, when other witnesses have clearly been in touch with TTSA et al.
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posted on Nov, 4 2018 @ 12:29 PM
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a reply to: pigsy2400

From what I have seen, no reputable researchers have been
approached by TTSA (or they left TTSA).

What that says to me, is that TTSA has marginalized itself.

It's all in how you look at it.

Kev



posted on Nov, 4 2018 @ 12:31 PM
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originally posted by: pigsy2400
a reply to: Baablacksheep

I was reflecting on the comments on the post that you linked to.

That by Osborns comments regarding Penniston being marginalised and sidelined, it doesn't appear as though he has been asked by TTSA to participate in whatever it is in regards to Rendlesham they have going on, when other witnesses have clearly been in touch with TTSA et al.


Yes. Hence why I mentioned a few posts back. Jim has not dealt with Zondo, he is not part of the click club.

I have no idea if this will change or not, but for now he does not seem to be part of the TTSA plan.

Regardless of what people might think of Jim, is this not a little odd, he been a principle witness and all?

It also appears Jim did not even know who Zondo was.



posted on Nov, 4 2018 @ 01:17 PM
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originally posted by: Baablacksheep

Regardless of what people might think of Jim, is this not a little odd, he been a principle witness and all?

It also appears Jim did not even know who Zondo was.


Yeah, you'd think if they were distancing themselves from folk who might discredit the research they'd distance themselves from themselves.


I'm joking somewhat but only partially. In some things TTSA, philosophically speaking, I agree. The importance of "Consciousness" to our human and cosmological mystery for example.

But then there's all the obvious issues they have with credibility and truth and that pretty much sours the whole thing.

Jim might be better staying away from it all and address his story with his book.

I'd be glad to be wrong and find that TTSA turns out something amazing that furthers our understanding. I would sincerely apologize publicly.
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posted on Nov, 4 2018 @ 01:38 PM
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a reply to: The GUT

I would also sincerely apologize publicly if all the lies
and deception led to something true and worthwhile
to the human race as a whole.

Kev



posted on Nov, 4 2018 @ 02:57 PM
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originally posted by: Baablacksheep
a reply to: mirageman

Its called reading, that info is out there.



OK.

It would be helpful to provide a link to where you got that information. Otherwise that post above looks like you are wanting to appear to be someone "in the know" and other forums posters and readers should be prepared to work hard to uncover your source of information. I am sure that it wasn't meant that way and was merely an oversight. But if you read it again it looks rather supercilious.

So would you be as so kind to provide a link to a source confirming Zondo has never contacted the Penniston camp?



posted on Nov, 4 2018 @ 03:22 PM
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a reply to: Baablacksheep

I feel like I’ve missed something?



posted on Nov, 4 2018 @ 04:01 PM
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a reply to: ctj83


The Rendlesham Forest incident may still be classified or at least intellectual content is to be disclosed only in a manner approved by certain "clubs".
Typical example "You Can't Tell the People" : The Definitive Account of the Rendlesham Forest UFO Mystery by
Georgina Bruni.
There does seem to be some free material available through links provided by the Cacadia 3301 "club".
Its very cryptic but their clues appear to be open source if you don't over analyze them.

The example below may appear difficult but studying about things like the Vigenère table and encryption rotor will give you some clues you need. My guess is that this was meant as a remedial exercise for people that didn't recognize the number 3301 initially. There are three rotors but it is not stated whether the rotor size of all three is the same for example 11 or 33, some other arbitrary number or even a mix of rotor sizes.

As I mentioned in my earlier post the song reference is probably the words of a poet such as Homer and the voice of the Cicada from the Iliad.

"Let it Be" was a song by the "Beatles" on their White album so we are on topic..




posted on Nov, 4 2018 @ 04:02 PM
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originally posted by: mirageman

Any UFO thread that is ''personality-free" would have to be based on physical evidence and theory. And you will still have various 'personalities' involved who have theories and argue what evidence points to.


Sorry, my post was a bit rubbish and not clear enough - I was speaking in more general terms about the Phenomenon and focusing on the more esoteric conclusions about its nature, away from an ETH or even an IDH, and separate to the RFI or any particular case. Kev, for example, seems to be very definite about its 'trickster' nature, miles away from a physical state and more consciousness-based, and even prone to being cheeky or humorous. I'm instinctively attracted to that angle, but cannot get a firm grip on it - hence why a dedicated thread and discussion would help rather than tasty morsels scattered into different cases across the board.

The personalities of the theorists themselves would naturally be included since that is what a forum IS after all. More generally, yes, 'Personality' IS what Ufology is all about when it comes to witnesses such as Halt, Marcel and Lazar, and 'experts' such as TTSA. All very entertaining!


Now whilst Kev makes that post for you go find your old X-Box 360. That should give me time to post that Twin Peaks video again.


I don't get the 360 reference, unless you mean personality-free avatars blitzing personality-free aliens.

As for Twin Peaks, having finished my viewing marathon, I can heartily recommend Season 3 (2017) as groundbreaking television (yet again, as it was in 1990) on the one hand, and an entertaining take on the Phenomenon as a whole on the other.



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posted on Nov, 4 2018 @ 04:09 PM
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"Let it Be" was a song by the "Beatles" on their White album so we are on topic..


Try again.



posted on Nov, 4 2018 @ 04:15 PM
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supercilious


What a fabulous word. I am on your side in all matters Rendelsham from this point on because you used it.

As if I wasnt before



posted on Nov, 4 2018 @ 04:24 PM
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a reply to: ConfusedBrit

If you read everything out there on the Phenomenon, I suspect that you'd
at the very last come to only one conclusion:

the "phenomenon" does not want to be identified firmly as being one
thing or another.

Now you could assign all these conspiratorial type assumptions...you
know, that it's evil.. that it wants to eat humans.. that it's demonic..
or that it lives on the dark side of the moon... you know all the many
stories.

But there is a little red wagon here. (I have a post n that topic you
might want to read).

What we have, is a small handful of facts, apparently:

1) We, with our conscious minds and strong senses of self,

are trying to hunt down something that:

2) seems related to the human psyche in some way,

and:

3) does not seem to have a sense of self at all.. or which
soaks up whatever sense of self that we give it.. with
our conscious rational sense of self as we chase
after it.

Now whatever else we can deduce.. it would seem to
come down to,

our conscious rational sense of selves, are chasing after
our own unconscious minds, which do not have a sense
of self at all, not in the sense that we generally understand
the term.

It's even very simple to prove..

When you first go on a 'spiritual path', you do all these
crazy things --- quiet the mind... meditates.. attempt
to disassemble the ego.. all these crazy things.. and along
the path what happens?

if you are the usual type of seeker, you will one day think
that you are 'X' and the next day you will suddenly believe
that you are 'Y'.

In the end, all spiritual seekers either break down completely
or wind up thinking that they are personally jesus or whatever
(in the worst case), or most commonly, they just stop the endless
search at some point, claim victory, and then push back
fanatically at anyone who has come to different conclusions
than they have. (I didn't do any of those things myself but
those are the common ones).

If you put aside your sense of self and look for your 'spiritual
core', you will never find it.. or you will note that it is
eternally changing.. moment by moment..

We change, as life changes us is what it amounts to.

So, probably the most astute thing that one could ever
hope to say about the 'phenomenon' is:

It doesn't have a sense of self.

We do.

Until we get past this impasse, we will never progress one
single step further on our quest of understanding.

There's a reason that I don't post in one coherent place
about the phenomenon by the way.

Kev
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posted on Nov, 4 2018 @ 04:25 PM
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originally posted by: Cauliflower

"Let it Be" was a song by the "Beatles" on their White album so we are on topic..


Try the album 'Let It Be' (1970) instead. Only two years out.

If MM needs a third thread, "The Long and Winding Road" must be a shoo-in. And if an ETH is eventually proven to be true, we can finish off with "Across The Universe".




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