a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin
I realize you're looking more for an echo chamber than an actual thought-out response here, but I really have trouble letting such propaganda pieces
lie. So bear with me.
If by "reason," you mean "make them think like I do," you are correct. Trying to force anyone to think the way one wishes them to is an inherently
futile endeavor. Of course, to most people, the term "reason" implies a two-way conversation that includes both sides listening to the other in an
attempt to find some sort of common ground. That rarely happens in politics today.
Instead, we have complaints like yours. Here's a few specific details, based on your laundry list of complaints, that might hopefully (but obviously
not necessarily) shed some light on the issue:
Obama's birth certificate is a moot point. It is irrelevant. It might have been relevant during his first 6 months or so in office, but after that it
did not matter.
Whether gender Michele Obama is, is also irrelevant. No one who matters cares. I think many might care that they are being lumped into a group which
does not share their views, based on overall support for someone.
Almost two years of investigations into this supposed Trump-Russia collusion has yielded no results whatsoever concerning Trump-Russia collusion. The
investigation does not even claim Trump as a target. However, based on the exact same complaints used to try and justify the existence of the
investigation, the Democratic candidate is obviously guilty... Hillary Clinton paid for a British spy to use Russian contacts to produce a sketchy,
unverifiable dossier designed specifically to be used as political ammunition against Trump, and it was then used by the FBI in a FISA warrant to
officially approve spying on a US citizen. So yeah... fake news.
And of course, your next point is the "whataboutism" complaint... that complaint is irrelevant. The tenet is not "Trump should be able to do whatever
Hillary did," but more "neither Trump nor Hillary should be above the law." It is, to us, a question of fairness, and examples of unfair treatment
under the law are not only quite applicable, they are the basis of the complaints we have.
Now let us look at some of the things used to disparage Trump and end our support of him:
- Trump is a racist: please! We have heard that same
old song and dance so many times, we understand that the only real racists in the conversation are those who are making the accusations. There is no,
zero, zip, nada reasoning that realistically point to Donald Trump being a racist. Twisting his words around does not count.
- Trump is a womanizer: who cares? That's between him and his women. As long as there is no solid evidence of molestation, most people do not
consider sexual relations the mark of the devil.
- Trump gets two scoops of ice cream: need i add anything to this one?
- Trump is dumb: yeah, maybe, but he's smart enough to turn a million dollar loan into a multi-billion dollar empire with international name
recognition in the most difficult real estate market in the country. That puts him a few notches above the people who are saying he's dumb, which
means those detractors are actually hypocrites.
- Trump starts fights with his phone: Actually, Trump wins fights with his phone. His targets start them. And at least his administration is
transparent; we get to hear what's on his mind every day.
- Trump is obstructing justice: not. The President gets to hire and fire Executive Branch employees.
- Trump is planning...: oh, quit trying to read the man's mind already! Read his tweets. As soon as I hear this kind of statement, everything else
you say is just propaganda based on a fantasy.
If you want to reason with a Trump supporter, try reasoning. Who knows? It might work.