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Creepy Porn Lawyer, now knows Kavanaugh is lying due to his virginity.

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posted on Sep, 25 2018 @ 07:23 PM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Grambler




The dems alraedy had their say and sat obn allegations for 6 weeks, so I guess they didnt want to hear it as well.


The Dems didn't know about Deborah Ramirez' allegations 6 weeks ago. They didn't even know about her 1 week ago. There is no reason for the Republicans to ram rod this through without an FBI investigation into these allegations or allow witness testimony at the confirmation hearings.


The dems knew of ramarez before it was let out.

In fact, the reason her story came out was because dems were searching for victims.

They then werent satisfied that she wasnt sure if kavanuagh did it, as she admitted to classmates she called, and so they counseled her for six days, and then she remembered in the way the democrats wanted.

And ramarez herself is refusing to give a statement to the senate.

So what, we should demand witnesses tetsify when the accuser wont even do so?

She was reached out to, and declined to even make a statement.

Thats on her.




posted on Sep, 25 2018 @ 07:23 PM
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a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

Exactly because its unfair to smear a person without actually proving anything. Especially in a country where innocence until guilt is proven is a right. We do ourselves a disservice and we look like fools for it.



posted on Sep, 25 2018 @ 07:27 PM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha

Not one person that either ramerez or ford have siad were eye witnesses have backed up their story.

Not one.

Maybe kavanaugh, a college frshman, bragged about having sex.

Guess what? As a college freshmen who was not to familiar with ladies, i too lied about having sex. I guess I am now an abuser as well.

Your claim of mark judges girlfirend discussing trains, please source it. Are you refernecing avenattis witness that hasnt even came forward yet? Yet somehow yoyu cite this as some sort of proof or evidence? Wow you sure seem inmpartial.

Underage drinking? Who cares, what does that prove about sex abuse?

Jokes in a yearbook being proof of anything? Ridiculous. That is not on par with disrespecting women. Oh and I bet you would be one of the people who were saying anyone pointing out the behaviors shown in fords yearbook were victim shaming.



posted on Sep, 25 2018 @ 07:31 PM
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a reply to: RickyD

But what do you do when you request an investigation into the allegations and it is denied you?
You are allowed no witnesses, no experts, nothing.

They put you in a "he said/she said" situation, and then continue to cry "no evidence! No corroboration" , even though you asked repeatedly for a chance to have an investigation?

Of course, it doesn't matter. Anita Hill had her investigation, her witnesses, and still all the republicans voted to confirm Thomas, and they will in this case too, regardless of whether they believe her.

It's not a matter of belief. It's a matter of not caring. They didn't care then, and they don't now.

You know, someone recently said "Republicans don't care if a woman is raped. They only care when she refuses to carry the baby to term".

That sounds a little mean, but I'm beginning to wonder.


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posted on Sep, 25 2018 @ 08:04 PM
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Not one person that either ramerez or ford have siad were eye witnesses have backed up their story.


Yes, but it WAS the talk of the campus.



Guess what? As a college freshmen who was not to familiar with ladies, i too lied about having sex. I guess I am now an abuser as well.


Okay, but just last night he used his virginity as a defense. Plus, his high school year book has him bragging of conquests too. Obviously, he's not being honest about his youthful behavior. If he was honest and gave a sincere mea culpa, he'd probably be confirmed easily. But, he's being hyperbolically dishonestby painting himself as some kind of young virginal saint who always respected women and went to the "Little Flower" church every Sunday. Please don't tell me that Georgetown Prep School f boys didn't have a "Little Flower" joke.



Your claim of mark judges girlfirend discussing trains, please source it.



Elizabeth Rasor, who dated Judge for three years, told the New Yorker that he previously told her a story about he and other classmates taking turns having sex with a drunken woman. www.nydailynews.com...


But, there's more!


Another woman, who went to high school in the area at the same time as Kavanaugh, Judge and Ford, claims male students “would get a female blind drunk” on grain alcohol and Hawaiian Punch and then try to take advantage of her.

“It was disgusting,” the woman, who asked to remain anonymous, told the New Yorker. “They treated women like meat.”




Underage drinking? Who cares, what does that prove about sex abuse?


Except for the fact that his roommate at Yale said he was an agressive and mean drunk, not much. What it does speak to is his lack of candor and outright dishonety in last night's interview, when he brushed off allegations of underage drinking by saying that the legal age was 18. It wasn't. So, when Kavanaugh was 17 he was drinking illegally, okay. But, he was still drinking illegally for another 4 years, while at Yale, until he turned 21. But, he lied about that to the American people last night.

Again, an honest and sincere mea culpa would have spared him.



Jokes in a yearbook being proof of anything?


A joke about a girl getting passed around the entire football team is disrespectful to that woman, and all women. Either Kavanaugh doesn't know what being respectful to women means, or he's being dishonest about and regretful past.



Oh and I bet you would be one of the people who were saying anyone pointing out the behaviors shown in fords yearbook were victim shaming.


I haven't seen anything from her yearbook, but she's not claiming to pristine clean, like Kavanaugh is. She's also not being considered to be elevated to the highest court of the land.


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posted on Sep, 25 2018 @ 08:23 PM
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a reply to: angeldoll

Maryland police will investigate. It is their jurisdiction.

The FBI will not because it isn't their jurisdiction.

And the witnesses in question have all released statements via lawyers that they don't know what she's talking about.

She doesn't get to force them to testify for her if she can't be forced to testify. What makes you think she can?!



posted on Sep, 25 2018 @ 09:03 PM
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originally posted by: sligtlyskeptical

originally posted by: projectvxn
The left is proving to be nothing but filth.

I'm tired of them. I sincerely hope they lose it all this November. They dont deserve to win.


The left at least takes sexual abuse allegations seriously. in every case that comes up the Republicans all claim the women are lying. Every one of them. I have no idea how any sane minded woman could vote for them.


The left seems to take it seriously only when they can use it as a weapon.



posted on Sep, 25 2018 @ 09:23 PM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha
One person said they heard it and that is the talk of the campus?

Even when all of the people said to have been there, including ramirez's best friend said it didnt happen?


About sex bragging. So what, that doesnt prove any violence or nasty bnehavior towartd women. News flash, young boys and girls brag or make jokes about sex. What do you want, him to go over every crude joke he has ever made? What insane puritans some people are becoming.


Trains occuring? So now the fact that some people are saying some guys got drunk and had sex with the same girl, that implicates kavanaugh in some way? SO if someone comments that girls from fords school liked to bang guys drunk and then say they didnt consent afterwards when they actually did, can that be used against Ford? Of course not. But guilt by association is fine for kavanaugh.

Underage drinking? Again who cares. Ford and ramrez were underage drinkers, does that mean we shouldnt believe them? And so what, some anonymous guy said he was a mean drunk. So what? That doesnt prove he assaulted anoyone, its one anonymous persona opinion. Notice how you take all of these anonymous claims at face value. Yet you apparently dont believe the 65 named women saying he has good character.

Him claiming to be pristine. SO what. ramaerez made it a point to ssay she was a good catholic girl who didnt want to see a penis until married. I dont remember you saying the fact she was getting blasted driunk impugned her claim or character.

You dont like the guy, so hearsay form anonymous people is good enough for you to think he is probably guilty.

I think that is terrible.



posted on Sep, 25 2018 @ 09:30 PM
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a reply to: angeldoll

When do accusers get to decide who investigates their claims?

She can file a police report, the police whose jurisdiction she is in said they are willing to investigate.

Yet she choses not to do that.

Its funny, I keep seeing dems saying this isnt a trail, so she shouldnt havce to be questioned by a lawyer, and kavainaugh shouldnt be innocent until proven guilty.

Yet then they act as if it is a trail saying all of the witnesses need to be brought forth.

The witnesses have given statement under penalty of law.

You blindly assert anita hill was telling the truth and republicans didnt care. I disagree, i havent seen proof thoimas was guilty.

The fbi that you want to investigate kavanaugh found no proof of thomas's ghuilt. Yet still you assert he was guilty.

This goes to show you dont care what an fbi investigation would show, you have , based merely on an accusation, found kavanaugh to be guilty.

The dems are the ones who dont care about sex crime victims; they sat on the allegation for 6 weeks to play politics.

The rpeublicans are trying to get her to testify, she is making unreasonable demands like kavanauigh has to spea first and cant have his counsel question her.

And again, you, like many others on here claiming how bad the republicans are, have not breathed one word about the dmes ignoring of ellisons accuser. Its starting to seem like you dont care about her at all, just like the dems.

So until you do, stop with your partisan attacks on republicans and pretending the dmes have some moral high ground on the issue.



posted on Sep, 25 2018 @ 09:53 PM
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a reply to: Grambler


It all goes to his disqualifying lack of candor and dishonesty now about then.



posted on Sep, 25 2018 @ 09:57 PM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha

Well that's your opinion.
The Senate's opinion is what will decide this.
I dont think they will agree with you friday morning.

Oh friday will be swell here.



posted on Sep, 25 2018 @ 10:05 PM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Grambler


It all goes to his disqualifying lack of candor and dishonesty now about then.


What lack of candor?

"Everyone, I would like you to know as a teenager i made dirty jokes"

How stupid can this get?



posted on Sep, 25 2018 @ 10:07 PM
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originally posted by: sligtlyskeptical

originally posted by: projectvxn
The left is proving to be nothing but filth.

I'm tired of them. I sincerely hope they lose it all this November. They dont deserve to win.


The left at least takes sexual abuse allegations seriously. in every case that comes up the Republicans all claim the women are lying. Every one of them. I have no idea how any sane minded woman could vote for them.


You mean like all the women who have come forward with accusations against Bill Clinton? They were all taken seriously by the left? GMAB already with this garbage.



posted on Sep, 25 2018 @ 10:14 PM
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a reply to: Grambler


I can't believe people are still discussing this. Both FORD and RAMIREZ are lying. Has new info come to light and I missed it?



posted on Sep, 25 2018 @ 10:37 PM
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Regarding the repeated claims that Brett Kavanaugh lied about it being legal to drink in Maryland at the age of 18 in the 1980s.

It seems that if you turned 18 before Nov. 1982, then it was legal for you to drink beer and wine. He was born on February 12,1965.

eta that this would mean that he was not legally allowed to drink in Maryland in the 80s but then I saw that in DC it was legal until 86.

Not sure if he was lying as claimed. Here is what he actually said:

"Yes, there were parties and the drinking age was 18," Kavanaugh said. "And yes, the seniors were legal and had beer there. And yes, people might have had too many beers on occasion. And people generally, in high school, I think all of us have probably done things. We look back on in high school and regret or cringe a bit."

This is really reaching if you are going to label the man a liar (and potential rapist) based on this unclear statement.
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posted on Sep, 25 2018 @ 11:05 PM
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a reply to: sligtlyskeptical

You call this nonsense taking it seriously?

They've taken what is a horrific, even soul-crushing, event for many victims, and trivialized it into virtually unrecognizable garbage.

...and what of the person accused? Has it even entered into your wildest imaginings that he might, perhaps it's even likely, not have had anything to do with something so horrific?

Taking it seriously would be Sen. Feinstein, instead of sitting on it until an opportune moment, bringing the letter to the attention of, not only Sen. Grassley, but the entirety of, the Judiciary committee.

She chose, for obviously blatant political gain, not to. That's taking it seriously? Baldly going on nationwide TV to claim that Kavanaugh is guilty of it, before any testimony before the judiciary, is taking it seriously?

You couldn't be more off the mark had you set out to do so deliberately.



posted on Sep, 25 2018 @ 11:09 PM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

Why is it laughable??

Is it somehow wrong to remain a virgin past the age of 16/17, or whatever age of consent is?

Again, why?



posted on Sep, 25 2018 @ 11:16 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

Odd, isn't it, how that seems to work?



posted on Sep, 25 2018 @ 11:19 PM
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This is NOT a criminal trial.
We have two women who have political motivations to accuse this man of crude behavior that falls well below the level of criminal behavior. These two women are NOT credible. They cannot recall even basic details of these accusations.
These accusations were withheld for decades until such a time as when they could be dredged up to sink a nomination. The named "witnesses" have denied that the allegations are true.

This tactic is a very well known tactic that was used to great effect in the old Soviet Union. The pattern in the USSR was to label someone a pedophile. They would sow rumors about the target, then bring forth the accusation. The people who had been told the rumors would then come forward to say "I heard this!" When the first accusations were being addressed by the target there would be additional accusers that were waiting in the wings to come forward with additional accusations. The mob would be stoked into action and demand that the target be arrested. BAMN the target disappears into a gulag.
Now these people for the most part don't want him thrown into a gulag. Some of them actually do because he has not sufficiently genuflected toward a Planned Parenthood clinic. His statements that he will not rule against Roe v Wade are not enough. This witch must BURN and they are busy lining up a chain of hysterical school girls to scream until the Witch Finder general throws him on the pyre.



posted on Sep, 25 2018 @ 11:23 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

You know, they are starting to sound remarkably like the stereotypical Deep South before the Civil Rights movement...

No proof needed, just the accusations of a white woman against a black man was enough to get him lynched, or put in prison if he was lucky.

Am I alone in seeing the similarities??



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