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No man should ever vote for Democrats again!

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posted on Sep, 25 2018 @ 06:38 AM
Surely like any other form of false accusation it should carry a penalty
it is a crime to falsely accuse someone of fraud and there is a penalty for anyone falsely accusing someone of fraud
so why is there a penalty for fraud but not for falsely accusing someone of abuse or rape !

the worst part about it is that it appears that there is a lot of legislation in the UK right now which is based on subjective conscious states "offense" etc , "offense" is subjective to the individual and for example , hate speech in the UK
you can state to the law that someone offended you and have them taken to court for hate speech !

as others have said though , if you are innocent then you having nothing to fear from other women so long as you are not a sexual predator and can safely keep your hands to yourself after a few drinks or keep it in your pants and not think every interaction with a female will lead to some sort of sexual encounter!
You have nothing to worry about , just carry on with your life and lets these celebs and politicians hang each other with their own ropes !

The only thing that I can safely predict will happen with these cases in america is the reduction in freedoms , its always an assault on the freedoms of Americans , so that public opinion will openly call for these freedoms to be removed and gifted to the protection of government and increase your dependency on the state.
Thankfully the majority of Americans are clued up on their freedoms and rights and will resist this for what it is!

posted on Sep, 25 2018 @ 06:42 AM

originally posted by: MRinder
If they are going to weaponize rape and every man is assumed guilty why would any man in his right mind ever vote for a Democrat? What's to stop the woman who doesn't get a promotion or an old girlfriend who you broke up with to claim you raped them? Apparently they don't need proof and all their witnesses could say they didn't see it happen, but Democrats would still say you are guilty simply because they expect that every woman who said they were raped are all truthful regardless of evidence or the lack thereof.

What's to protect any man from being Kavanaugh-ed? Never forget Democrats see all men as rapists unless proven otherwise.

Maybe, you shouldn't rape or assault them? Very, very few are found guilty of wrongful accusations, and few who are guilty ever get punished.

Perhaps we need some more fear of this in society.

posted on Sep, 25 2018 @ 07:10 AM

originally posted by: odzeandennz
a reply to: MRinder

men who aren't womanizing are free to vote for whatever party they want.

it's time the America's rape and chauvinism culture get exposed for what it is. no matter how incredibly pathetic and politically motivated, if this was happening in a middle eastern country, we'd scream they treat women with no respect, it's not easy judging ourselves is it.

enough with the exposing genitals, gang rapes, pedo rings, 'grooming' , and harrassments.

a win, even if by proxy, is a win for women.

Men who are not womanizing are not safe, that is the point of the whole OP. That mentality has allowed so much evil into this world. The idea that I'm not doing anything wrong so I don't have to worry. This brings to mind:

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Although the metoo movement certainly has very legitimate points and validity, it has become the rallying point for hysteria and suppressed hate paired with the self censorship mandated by the current cultural programming. I don't see it so much as a democrat thing. The programming has just been adapted in a more unreasoning, hateful and emotional way by them. We have all been programmed here, it is just a matter of how we express it, or if we learn to see it for what it is and reject it which is not an easy thing to do.

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posted on Sep, 25 2018 @ 07:22 AM
a reply to: pointessa

but that we have anything to worry about is a falsehood, its as if , any time some movement gains momentum it applies to 100% of the human population.

to say that men have their days numbered here is ridiculous !

not all men should be freaking out , if you are not womanising you are fine , we think that this means every women thinks this way or that every man is a rapist is complete rubbish!

the 7.6 billion of us , there is only a small percentage this applies to

as soon as something is in news , the broad sweeping tarring generalisation brush comes out !

posted on Sep, 25 2018 @ 07:24 AM

originally posted by: pointessa
Men who are not womanizing are not safe, that is the point of the whole OP. That mentality has allowed so much evil into this world. The idea that I'm not doing anything wrong so I don't have to worry. This brings to mind:

Yes they are. Accusations are rarely enough in court. Statistically, accusations plus proof rarely even result in convictions in these cases. Less than 1% of rape is successfully prosecuted.

Don't do questionable things like at a minimum hang out with people who get off on gang rape and drink irresponsibly, and there's no room for people to question what you do.

posted on Sep, 25 2018 @ 07:28 AM
a reply to: Aazadan

Allowing guilt by accusation without proof does not discourage rape. It creates a damned if you do damned if you don't scenario. If one is made out to be a monster long enough you might find they become one. It also creates a weapon for people to use to harm others without fear of repurcussion. If a woman is allowed to accuse a man without proof and is to be assumed to telling the truth even without evidence then what reason is there for a less scrupulous woman not to do so if they have a man they wish to harm?

Is not good to create a scenario where men are under the impression upsetting the wrong woman can lead to being forever labelled and ruined as a sexual predator even if they are innocent and where vile hateful spiteful women can lie about rape and destroy lives. This does nothing but make the world a worse place.

Men who are monsters have no reason not to rape as now they can go to jail for it even if they don't and men who are innocent are now potentially victims of simply angering the wrong girl or being her scape goat or simply character assassinated for being in the wrong party. It also harms women because many of these innocent men are fathers, brothers, sons, friends etc and it creates an environment where all men are consideted guilty harming men's ability to fully trust women in such an environment as well as create the impression to women that all men are monsters if given the chance so false accusations are ok.

So sick of hearing the, don't want to be accused of rape then don't rape line. People have been lying about rape and worse things to ruin others lives since the beginning of time. Not doing something has never been a guarantee that you will not be accused of it, tried and found guilty of it in public opinion. Is why evidence is so important. There are sick people out there of all sorts, some use words ti harm and have power over others (false accusers) and some do so with action (the rapists) and both a the scum of the earth and anyone who supports either getting away with it is in some sense an accessory to the crime.

posted on Sep, 25 2018 @ 07:28 AM
a reply to: sapien82

The problem is that there very much are women for whom the very idea that men are attracted to women and tend to express that in appreciative ways becomes womanizing and then they pass that on to other women.

Pretty soon, the biological truth that the two sexes tend to be attracted to one another for simple reasons of procreation becomes grounds for accusing one another for harassment and ruining each other's lives.

Sure, no one likes unwanted advances, but there is a difference between fielding an awkward advance from someone you're not attracted to and someone looking to really assault your sexually, and those lines are quickly being blurred.

posted on Sep, 25 2018 @ 07:52 AM
a reply to: ketsuko

I can see that it could be problematic , but that is to say that every women will eventually just reject any unwanted advance for social / financial gain , because the " i'll sue your ass" society has gone to the point where its beneficial to sue someone over a small dispute or accusations of sexual misconduct

surely there are women , who see it for what it is , an awkward male attempt to gain favour from the opposite sex!
and just not carry it any further by denying them instead of having them face criminal charges .
But humans find it hard to not react emotionally to a situation and want justice for their ego

at the same time there are those men who are bad and do deserve to be brought to justice
but we cant have the full population of males in humanity be tarred with the same brush. We arent all sexual predators
we dont all think with our cocks!

is if to say the slipper slope will lead all women in the US to conclude that any unwanted sexual advance , whether a gaze , a comment or a chancing touch will be unwanted and criminal and will have the offending male prosecuted.

Surely this would be a minefield for the judicial system , surely common sense will prevail !

Do we need to reinforce , what is an awkward advance compared to sexual assault , do we need to explain what is considered indecent to everyone ?

Adult Men and women should be having open and honest discussions with younger men and women as to what is right and wrong ? isnt this already known , why is it that everyone is so offended now , is it because of celebrity culture , we all think we are like them and so follow them ?
We all want our lives spread across social media and for everyone to feel sorry for our damaged ego's taking away from the real victims who do actually get assaulted or hurt or worse killed !

, just let me know when someone makes the attempt to explain it to the European gypsy community
there will be plenty "sends" and plenty "driveways " and "ponies" being dishes out for the winners , I cant wait to see them

posted on Sep, 25 2018 @ 07:53 AM

originally posted by: sapien82
a reply to: pointessa

but that we have anything to worry about is a falsehood, its as if , any time some movement gains momentum it applies to 100% of the human population.

to say that men have their days numbered here is ridiculous !

not all men should be freaking out , if you are not womanising you are fine , we think that this means every women thinks this way or that every man is a rapist is complete rubbish!

the 7.6 billion of us , there is only a small percentage this applies to

as soon as something is in news , the broad sweeping tarring generalisation brush comes out !

You are so right, that in reality very few people think that way. What I am saying is that there really is a potential for any guy to become a victim of this kind of witch hunt even if you have done nothing. What would happen to you in the current climate if an old girlfriend claimed you raped or abused her and posted it on social media as well? It could be very damaging to you and your career as well as your reputation, even if you did absolutely nothing. There will be a some women out there that will recognize an opportunity.

Everything eventually gets corrupted in this world. There are those that will definitely use the metoo movement for personal gain, in fact that is already happening.

I am providing a link to a short article that discusses the morphing of the metoo movement.

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posted on Sep, 25 2018 @ 07:55 AM
a reply to: sapien82

The problem is that when one says any unwanted advance is sex assault and another is sane.

The two are apt to make a fuss over very different things. The former cheapens the accusations of the latter.

How long will it be before society goes back to not taking women seriously if we get too many of the former sort of accusation?

posted on Sep, 25 2018 @ 08:03 AM
a reply to: Puppylove

Very well put.

Its a shame that this mindset is allowed to exist because its primary target is against a group that is deemed "oppressor"

In other words, who cares if MEN are liked at as guilty until proven innocent. MEN are bad and have it coming anyways.

So sometimes it helps to show how this very tool can be used against people that think like thats more desired groups.

Remember the book To Kill a Mocking Bird?

Itr was about how a white girl in the south falsely accused an innocent black man of rape.

Well apprantly, that black man should have had no fear of this; if he wasnt a rapists, he wouldnt have to prove his innocence. And because of the racist attuitudes of those in the town who thought black people must be shady, they too assumed he was guilty. Luckily the story had a good ending because the law gave him the presumption of innocnce.

But where would we be with the new standard being presnted? He would be guilty, drummed out of town, lost whatever job he had, etc.

Now people may say this is just fiction.

However, this has happened to black men in real life.

And as long as we say its ok to target certain groups as guilty until innocent, you can damn sure bet that a group that the people dont like will eventually use that power for themselves.

That is why the standard must be innocent until proven guilty.

posted on Sep, 25 2018 @ 08:14 AM
a reply to: ketsuko

I can totally see things getting like that !

I mean we already have people taking advantage of the greenfell incident

humans sink so low to manipulate the suffering of others

one recently I seen in Scotland , the notorious "digger" posted an image of a man who they thought was a known convicted pedophile and it turned out they just googled the mans name and took an image from google , and it was another man with the same name, and he was now been socially exiled and lost his job and his family and friends, because a paper printed his picture without checking who it actually was! Just an example of how it could go horribly wrong.

There really isnt a solution to this , apart from just be a decent human being and hope that you havent done anything to give any one any reason to be offended enough to sue you for sexual misconduct!

it has a lot to do with celebs / victim / court for cash society!

is this the punishment being dished out by society from women as a backlash for centuries of oppression ?
does society take women seriously or is it just an attempt to placate women ?

A lot of work needs to be done by both male and females to fix this , and it all requires honesty with ones self and with others !

society cant go on thinking they are judge jury and executioner , we have laws and a well defined legal system , this whole public execution of peoples character cannot continue
yes there needs to be transparency in our judicial system but only within the context for record keeping.
Not everyone should be privy to this information until the judicial system has come to a legal conclusion
the government should impose legislation which actively prevents social media, or even media from divulging any cases pending trial , or even hints of accusation as its all here say until legal conclusions have been drawn.

The media should not be allowed to post stuff like that , neither should people be able to discuss these things
adding fuel to a fire , that may not even be a fire !
but then no one would really watch tv news or read newspapers if there wasnt all teh media hype and lies to get overly excited about
that appeal to our egos and get us triggered!

but in a world of materialism and PC culture gone mad , we are kind of at the mercy of the lunatics and the real issues , the real victims get side lined and forgotten among those who want 15 minutes of fame and some cash in the bank!

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posted on Sep, 25 2018 @ 08:18 AM

originally posted by: xuenchen
Here's the leadership talking....😃😃

Hawaii senator has message for all men: 'Shut up and step up'

so proud too !!

With Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh accused of sexual assault, U.S. Sen. Mazie Hirono had some very strong words Tuesday for all men in the country.

Thanks Hirono. I think I will step up.... And continue to support Kavanaugh.

posted on Sep, 25 2018 @ 08:46 AM
Both men and women have a tough time these days, believe the women are not, is there an ulterior motive.
It happens in the business world too, two people of different gender are eyeing up a promotion for a retiring boss.
In order to get advantage in the selection process she knows is coming the female baits the male co-worker with flirty advances, he responds in kind, nothing happens. But when the decision time comes she claims inappropriate behavior of her co-worker, he claims it was mutual, she denies it. In the #metoo environment he doesn't survive in his current job never mind getting promoted, but she does get promoted.

Is that how we want our fathers, sons, nephews, husbands and brothers treated ?

Some on the left will say a few can be sacrificed as collateral damage....eventually women who have important men in their lives damaged by this will rise up and say enough, they started it and they will end it, it's a pendulum.

I view all those women who held a press conference supporting a man they believe in, as a start of the counter to the lefts just shut up and go away if accused, innocent or not.
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posted on Sep, 25 2018 @ 08:49 AM

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: MRinder

Democrat women are hurting themselves big time this year!

not if a voter has a built in liberal microchip

posted on Sep, 25 2018 @ 08:56 AM

originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: MRinder

I'm actually wondering if the (D) party has several women lined up against potential candidates. It's called the long game. Get SOMETHING on the record years beforehand, so you can use it at a later date. If the allegations of her writing a similar letter regarding Gorsuch are true, then this raises a whole other issue. That probably is hearsay and not accurate, but at the same time if you expect me to believe a baseless accusation from one side, by default I have to believe baseless accusations from the other side, or be labeled a hypocrite.

You have heard it from men on a regular basis now, they won't be alone with a female in any capacity due to accusations. Men didn't cause this issue, victims didn't cause this issue, the damn liars are what caused this issue.

Accusations of sexual assault are a serious matter, and some women don't understand that.

If the allegations are true, I want the perp thrown in jail with bubba so they can experience what they did

If the allegations are false, I want the perp thrown in jail with bubba so they can experience what they claimed.

Well, first it depends on what they consider sexual assault. If a guy pinches a girl's butt, I don't think he needs to visit Bubba. If he forces her down and tries to hump her or jam fingers into her or something then I'm with you 100%.

posted on Sep, 25 2018 @ 08:59 AM
a reply to: Blue_Jay33

I see how it goes eye for an eye in a never ending loop

how about we look at why men are predatory

because they were raised by # parents ? lack of love from mother and father

or just have brain damage and have no compassion or empathy and treat others as nothing or less than human

why are some not all men toxic ?

we always seem to do the same thing, try to damage limit and seek justice for the victims
with everyone else riding coat tails and the rest fighting over who is right and who is wrong!

Shouldnt we all just throw down the gauntlet and work together to sort it out instead of taking sides in this mess
like try to eliminate toxic human behaviour , not just "toxic masculinity"

posted on Sep, 25 2018 @ 09:06 AM

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: odzeandennz

As a woman, I don't feel like I am winning anything.

Sex assault and rape are serious things that deserve to be taken seriously, not turned into political weapons to be used at my convenience because I want something I'm not getting, but that's the lesson here.

Sex crimes are the new racism, and look how cheap that's gotten.

The killing part is that if a woman comes out against a liberal like Ellison or Clinton, nobody says a word. I'm pretty disappointed in the Republicans we elected for letting this crap drag out while they overlook other people with allegations. Trump is kryptonite to liberals because he exposes them and isn't afraid to tell them no. Doing that to a liberal infuriates them. We need more Trump minded people in Congress. I would have told Ford that she's had 36 years to think about this so she can testify now or continue her silence for 36 more years. Then I would have told her that she can thank Feinstein for this since she held onto the "letter" until the very last minute when she should have brought it up 2 months ago if it was that important.

posted on Sep, 25 2018 @ 09:12 AM
a reply to: MRinder

Never. For any reason. They have no problem allowing some bitter lying Democrat bi##h from holding up our public process.

Now it looks like this moron is trying to get out of appearing under oath again. Her chance should be revoked, and they should push it to a vote. No one should hear this woman, unless her lying self wants to take actual physical evidence to Maryland state authorities. And good luck with that.

Democrats have no business being included anymore. We should exclude them and hold congressional functions without them - the majority party can make that happen. The Constitution doesn't recognize political parties, and ejecting individual senators/reps can be easily done by our majority.

posted on Sep, 25 2018 @ 09:13 AM
a reply to: LSU2018

There is a reason why dumb men continue to believe fake non-real Americans who are obsessed with sex/sex crimes. Women know how other women are, and generally won't give them to the time of day without physical hard evidence. Men, OTOH, especially "white knights" are generally pathetic #### cowards.

Anyone with a brain will demand evidence before believing a story someone wants to tell. Especially when this C. Fatty Ford won't even show up to testify. Why is our majority party even playing games with these lying leftist cows?
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