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Why don't you believe these women?

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posted on Sep, 24 2018 @ 04:04 PM
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originally posted by: FyreByrd

originally posted by: avgguy
Their stories keep changing. Their witnesses deny even being there. If you’re going to try to ruin someone’s life you better come with some evidence.


She is the one getting death threats. Her life is essentially ruined, not his.

Again, why would she put herself through this, if not to attempt to save the People of the United States from a clearly unfit judge.



BS, have you seen the threats against Kav and his family? She is a political pawn and has nothing to do with saving the people of the USA from and unfit judge.


The Democrats have used this tactic for years smearing anyone who believes in the Constitution. Remember Bork? How about the racist Democrats going after the first black man for SCOTUS? Remember that?


Ted Kennedy is dead, so you can't ask him, but ask Joe Biden, Dick Durbin, Harry Reid, and Chuck Schumer about their schemes to subvert our Democracy and system of justice.


It's laughable if not sad to listen to you socialists act as if you are saving our Republic versus destroying it. Just be honest about your intentions?




posted on Sep, 24 2018 @ 04:05 PM
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a reply to: FyreByrd

Because there is nothing to investigate. All parties supposedly there have denied, where do you go from there? Maybe we should hook him up to some electricity and give him some lsd while waterboarding him for 72 hrs, if he cracks he's definitely a witch.
edit on 9/24/2018 by TheLead because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 24 2018 @ 04:06 PM
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originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

originally posted by: Edumakated

Define sexual assault for that poll... is it cat calling or boobie grabbing. We need to be specific.


Reminds me of how the other team is all totally obsessed with stopping "human trafficking", and there's supposedly these huge busts happenening, but when you read the articles they're mostly about busting hookers.

Hookin': the oldest profession known to man. (look it up)





Yeah, I always tend to seek definitions when the left quotes numbers as they have a history of redefining things or using broad definitions to try to inflate numbers to support their causes.


This is not about left or right - it is about common human decency.

The left, male or female, don't deserve decency as you say. Why are males always believed and women portrayed as scheming liars.

Perhaps it is projection of one's own motis opperandi of deceit.



posted on Sep, 24 2018 @ 04:06 PM
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a reply to: FyreByrd

Its possible these women are coming forward now as this #metoo movement has given them the confidence to make these allegations. Its possible that they were extremely embarresed, felt they would not be believed, its possible the men's families had power of persuasion. There are many reasons why they might not have come forward.

I say let the investigation ride out .



posted on Sep, 24 2018 @ 04:07 PM
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I’ve seen too many headlines saying that the woman was found to be lying.
Most recently in my city. A woman claimed 3 university hockey players raped her.
Full blown, forcible confinement rapist.
3 people with budding hockey careers kicked from university due to this woman’s allegations.
3 men’s lives ruined because of her.
2 years they had to endure being called rapist, living in hiding and going to court...
Until the woman admitted she made it up, because she got caught cheating on her boyfriend at the time, with one of the hockey players.
Those 3 men will never have the lives they were on track for until this POS lies to the police about them



posted on Sep, 24 2018 @ 04:07 PM
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a reply to: Annee

on the other hand being a man in a sexual relation is just as much harder. it almost leaves them no chance whatsoever if they were to blame themselves that they hurt you or did something wrong. that can damage them or their wellbeing in life pretty much as well.

ok, now pragmatic approach.
a sexually problematic man leaves two people unhappy in that arena. while with a sexually problematic woman there is stiĺl a chance she can keep her unhappiness to herself and can make another happy.



posted on Sep, 24 2018 @ 04:10 PM
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originally posted by: FyreByrd

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

originally posted by: Edumakated

Define sexual assault for that poll... is it cat calling or boobie grabbing. We need to be specific.


Reminds me of how the other team is all totally obsessed with stopping "human trafficking", and there's supposedly these huge busts happenening, but when you read the articles they're mostly about busting hookers.

Hookin': the oldest profession known to man. (look it up)





Yeah, I always tend to seek definitions when the left quotes numbers as they have a history of redefining things or using broad definitions to try to inflate numbers to support their causes.


This is not about left or right - it is about common human decency.

The left, male or female, don't deserve decency as you say. Why are males always believed and women portrayed as scheming liars.

Perhaps it is projection of one's own motis opperandi of deceit.


The Democratic Party certainly isn't doing females any damn favors by politicizing sexual harassment or worse? If I was a woman who was raped, I would be highly pissed at the Democratic party for politicizing sexual assault for political reasons. Ya'll did the same thing with the Race card and I am sure many victims of actual racism are just as pissed off?



posted on Sep, 24 2018 @ 04:10 PM
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originally posted by: Malcador

originally posted by: FyreByrd
Why are women not believed when sexual assault or harassment are on the public table?

Why? What do you think?

Some facts to consider before responding:


Campus Sexual assault

One in 5 women and one in 16 men are sexually assaulted while in college

More than 90% of sexual assault victims on college campuses do not report the assault

63.3% of men at one university who self-reported acts qualifying as rape or attempted rape admitted to committing repeat rapes

Crime reports

Rape is the most under-reported crime; 63% of sexual assaults are not reported to police

The prevalence of false reporting is between 2% and 10%. ===== For example, a study of eight U.S. communities, which included 2,059 cases of sexual assault, found a 7.1% rate of false reports (k). A study of 136 sexual assault cases in Boston found a 5.9% rate of false reports (j). Researchers studied 812 reports of sexual assault from 2000-03 and found a 2.1% rate of false reports.


www.nsvrc.org...

Do you seriously believe that most women would subject themselves to public ridicule to sabotage a man?


Why is it always about women it comes to sexual harrassment and assault? I've been sexually harassed dozens of times and sexually assaulted(raped) twice.

By women.

And EVERY man I know has been sexually harassed and many assaulted.

Until this is a recognized problem for both groups I'm not interested in furthering the "poor, delicate women" narrative.



One - if you read the entire quote, or even perhaps the white paper, you would see the statistics about male assaults listed.

Two - A basic understanding of statistics tells us this is not directly applicable to individuals but to populations. Girls and women are most often abused (though a considerable number of boys and men as well) and men are resoundingly (but not always) the perpetrator.



posted on Sep, 24 2018 @ 04:13 PM
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originally posted by: Damla
when you feel you are severly humiliated and insulted including physical assault..you simply want to hide it if you didnt fight it back and won one way or another during the assault.because, there should be a reason for it to happen to you. that's how the mind works. questioning that reason usually brings self blaming thoughts, self pity or sense of helplessness sooner or later. thus most of them hides.


And men more so then women. I don't know the statistics about men not reporting these incidents but I suspect it is even higher then the numbers for women.

Men also are better at convincing themselves 'it didn't happen'.



posted on Sep, 24 2018 @ 04:16 PM
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a reply to: FyreByrd

we are all too excited today. is this healthy?



posted on Sep, 24 2018 @ 04:17 PM
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a reply to: FyreByrd




Why are women not believed when sexual assault or harassment are on the public table?

Because sometimes people just flat out lie. There is proof and evidence of that. Once there are no more false accusations made then all women will be believed. If you are angry at anyone for the current attitude of the matter, be mad at those who make false claims. It is literally their fault.



posted on Sep, 24 2018 @ 04:17 PM
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Why don't you believe these women?


Why do you think? It's f'ing obvious.

You don't wait 35 years to report a felony.

You don't report it just because a respected man from the wrong party is up for a nice promotion.

You don't stall in giving a statement to confound the legitimate operation of legal government.

You don't place unreasonable demands upon the legitimate operation of legal government.



posted on Sep, 24 2018 @ 04:19 PM
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a reply to: FyreByrd

heroic thread. great comments! so much empathy and knowledge. so much fear. the times are changing. fine for me.




posted on Sep, 24 2018 @ 04:19 PM
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originally posted by: JIMC5499

originally posted by: Edumakated
Define sexual assault for that poll... is it cat calling or boobie grabbing. We need to be specific.

Most women won't subject themselves to public ridicule but plenty will... do we really need to start bringing up the cases of false rape claims? Women do it all the time. Duke Lacross? Tawanna Brawley? ring a bell?

There were three cases in my four years in college where girls falsely claimed they were raped. My next door neighbor was falsely accused.


I'm in full agreement about defining "sexual assault". The Liberal definition being taught in college is absurd. I'm an eldest brother with three sisters, I have a niece and a great niece. Trust me if somebody sexually assaults one of them, I'm not waiting for the Police, I'm going on safari. I have three brothers in law and a few nephews who will help me.

People keep asking why are the colleges and universities getting involved in this? For most of it the reason is simple. It doesn't meet the LEGAL definition of "Sexual Assault". In other words it wasn't a crime. These incidents meet the college's or university's DEFINITION not the legal one. This is one of the reasons that I believe that colleges and universities shouldn't have their own Police.



And do you think your sister's would tell you of an assault knowing what you said you would do?

What would you do if sister's attacker were another sisters husband? Who would you believe?

Honor killings for you. Someone touched 'your' sister. Your women. The other women are trash.

Sounds remarkably like Sharia to me.



posted on Sep, 24 2018 @ 04:22 PM
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a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed



Bwahh.......touch-ey


But cereal, anyone coming forward with sex-offender grade accusations better be true, or the consequences need to be wicked. Like 20 years mandatory.

Even if untrue, the damage is done. The what if's are all it takes.

The "me too campaign" is dirty as hell.



posted on Sep, 24 2018 @ 04:23 PM
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a reply to: Creep Thumper

Yeah, but what if they give me a bunch of money?

Can I do it then?



posted on Sep, 24 2018 @ 04:26 PM
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originally posted by: FyreByrd

originally posted by: JIMC5499

originally posted by: Edumakated
Define sexual assault for that poll... is it cat calling or boobie grabbing. We need to be specific.

Most women won't subject themselves to public ridicule but plenty will... do we really need to start bringing up the cases of false rape claims? Women do it all the time. Duke Lacross? Tawanna Brawley? ring a bell?

There were three cases in my four years in college where girls falsely claimed they were raped. My next door neighbor was falsely accused.


I'm in full agreement about defining "sexual assault". The Liberal definition being taught in college is absurd. I'm an eldest brother with three sisters, I have a niece and a great niece. Trust me if somebody sexually assaults one of them, I'm not waiting for the Police, I'm going on safari. I have three brothers in law and a few nephews who will help me.

People keep asking why are the colleges and universities getting involved in this? For most of it the reason is simple. It doesn't meet the LEGAL definition of "Sexual Assault". In other words it wasn't a crime. These incidents meet the college's or university's DEFINITION not the legal one. This is one of the reasons that I believe that colleges and universities shouldn't have their own Police.



And do you think your sister's would tell you of an assault knowing what you said you would do?

What would you do if sister's attacker were another sisters husband? Who would you believe?

Honor killings for you. Someone touched 'your' sister. Your women. The other women are trash.

Sounds remarkably like Sharia to me.



Yet it's your party who supports flooding our country with those who have thier beliefs in Sharia??? Here is another shovel for you!


It isn't an honor killing as described by Sharia law to take out a scumbag who rapes your wife or daughter! Much more to it than that.


Quite frankly, I would be a okay with any man being taken out permanently for raping a child or woman!



posted on Sep, 24 2018 @ 04:26 PM
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a reply to: FyreByrd

That’s not for me to answer, at the end of the day the burden of proof is on her. If she can’t provide that proof then he should be confirmed Thursday after questioning.



posted on Sep, 24 2018 @ 04:31 PM
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a reply to: FyreByrd

Because you can't investigate an incident without a date and time, neither of which she can recall, and so any investigation is more or less doomed from the start, but trying to launch one takes a lot more time which delays, and that's all they really want.



posted on Sep, 24 2018 @ 04:32 PM
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originally posted by: Dwoodward85
a reply to: FyreByrd

Those stats have been destroyed time and time again, the only people that constantly bring up those false stats are democrats and people who think there is a rape culture and it isn't that all women are not believed it's just women and men who come forward and point the finger at someone but then says that they cannot remember anything other than who it was.


I wouldn't call it a rape culture. And that's part of the problem. That men, left and right, believe anything less then violent rape is okay.

The language being used throughout this thread demeans women in general and it isn't called out.

Is is okay to rape a drunk women, or man? I know lots of folks, women included that think it's fine. That it was the women's fault. What about the responsibility of men to restrain themselves. Drunken men assaulting women, then not remembering due to blackout - are innocent of any offense?

Why don't we blame men for their stupid behavior?

If you were to kill someone while drunk - it doesn't matter whether or not 'you remember'. A person is responsible for their behavior, male or female.







 
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