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Why don't you believe these women?

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posted on Sep, 24 2018 @ 02:35 PM
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Why are women not believed when sexual assault or harassment are on the public table?

Why? What do you think?

Some facts to consider before responding:


Campus Sexual assault

One in 5 women and one in 16 men are sexually assaulted while in college

More than 90% of sexual assault victims on college campuses do not report the assault

63.3% of men at one university who self-reported acts qualifying as rape or attempted rape admitted to committing repeat rapes

Crime reports

Rape is the most under-reported crime; 63% of sexual assaults are not reported to police

The prevalence of false reporting is between 2% and 10%. ===== For example, a study of eight U.S. communities, which included 2,059 cases of sexual assault, found a 7.1% rate of false reports (k). A study of 136 sexual assault cases in Boston found a 5.9% rate of false reports (j). Researchers studied 812 reports of sexual assault from 2000-03 and found a 2.1% rate of false reports.


www.nsvrc.org...

Do you seriously believe that most women would subject themselves to public ridicule to sabotage a man?
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posted on Sep, 24 2018 @ 02:37 PM
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Those stats are complete BS.

If they were even half true, college campuses would basically be like Rwanda and parents wouldn't dare send their kids to university.
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posted on Sep, 24 2018 @ 02:37 PM
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no. actually i think it is probably very difficult for women to even talk to their close friends about such things.


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posted on Sep, 24 2018 @ 02:38 PM
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a reply to: FyreByrd

Depends what there is to gain from it
Depends of if they're being paid to "come clean"
So many of these women seem to have coped fine for 30+ years right up until the moment their "attacker" is famous or successful...do you not think this strange?


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posted on Sep, 24 2018 @ 02:39 PM
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originally posted by: Damla
no. actually i think it is probably very difficult for women to even talk to their close friends about such things.


And yet many of them find it soooo easy to talk to the media, twitter and facebook!


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posted on Sep, 24 2018 @ 02:39 PM
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Because their stories don't add up.

None of the people they've called on to back them up say they can recall the event, and those statements have been filed under oath and penalty of perjury.

Because the original allegation was sat on since July and only brought up when it looked like nothing else would work.

Sorry, but these ladies are lonely voices with no backing except people who don't want to see the judge confirmed and who have no actual knowledge of what might have happened or anyone involved.


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posted on Sep, 24 2018 @ 02:39 PM
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a reply to: FyreByrd


Do you believe Keith Ellisons accusers?

If you do why are you and your party not doing anything about it?


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posted on Sep, 24 2018 @ 02:40 PM
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originally posted by: FyreByrd
Why are women not believed when sexual assault or harassment are on the public table?

Why? What do you think?

Some facts to consider before responding:


Campus Sexual assault

One in 5 women and one in 16 men are sexually assaulted while in college

More than 90% of sexual assault victims on college campuses do not report the assault

63.3% of men at one university who self-reported acts qualifying as rape or attempted rape admitted to committing repeat rapes

Crime reports

Rape is the most under-reported crime; 63% of sexual assaults are not reported to police

The prevalence of false reporting is between 2% and 10%. ===== For example, a study of eight U.S. communities, which included 2,059 cases of sexual assault, found a 7.1% rate of false reports (k). A study of 136 sexual assault cases in Boston found a 5.9% rate of false reports (j). Researchers studied 812 reports of sexual assault from 2000-03 and found a 2.1% rate of false reports.


www.nsvrc.org...

Do you seriously believe that most women would subject themselves to public ridicule to sabotage a man?


Define sexual assault for that poll... is it cat calling or boobie grabbing. We need to be specific.

Most women won't subject themselves to public ridicule but plenty will... do we really need to start bringing up the cases of false rape claims? Women do it all the time. Duke Lacross? Tawanna Brawley? ring a bell?

There were three cases in my four years in college where girls falsely claimed they were raped. My next door neighbor was falsely accused.


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posted on Sep, 24 2018 @ 02:41 PM
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a reply to: MysticPearl

Havent you heard?




posted on Sep, 24 2018 @ 02:42 PM
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a reply to: Edumakated

Don't forget the UVA gang rape story.


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posted on Sep, 24 2018 @ 02:43 PM
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a reply to: FyreByrd

I think the problem lies with the fact no concrete proof can ever be provided other than the usual 'he said/she said'.

And why now? The timing is seriously suspect. Many, many years have gone by, and only now do the allegations emerge.

I would never in a million years want to falsely accuse someone of lying about such allegations, but we need to follow due process and not form a lynch mob the moment decades old allegations surface.



posted on Sep, 24 2018 @ 02:43 PM
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On this site, if the accusation is against a Republican, it's a lie. If it's against a Democrat, it's true and proof that Hillary Clinton runs a global satanic trafficking ring and eats babies.



posted on Sep, 24 2018 @ 02:44 PM
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a reply to: nightbringr

Exactly, look what happened with Roy Moore. Did that ever go to court? I never heard. Did you? Did anyone?


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posted on Sep, 24 2018 @ 02:44 PM
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Their stories keep changing. Their witnesses deny even being there. If you’re going to try to ruin someone’s life you better come with some evidence.



posted on Sep, 24 2018 @ 02:44 PM
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originally posted by: Edumakated

Define sexual assault for that poll... is it cat calling or boobie grabbing. We need to be specific.


Reminds me of how the other team is all totally obsessed with stopping "human trafficking", and there's supposedly these huge busts happenening, but when you read the articles they're mostly about busting hookers.

Hookin': the oldest profession known to man. (look it up)



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posted on Sep, 24 2018 @ 02:45 PM
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originally posted by: LordAhriman
On this site, if the accusation is against a Republican, it's a lie. If it's against a Democrat, it's true and proof that Hillary Clinton runs a global satanic trafficking ring and eats babies.


Not necessarily a lie.

Those against Moore had a far more credible case, but even then, it should go to court, not be tried by public opinion.

Ellison should end up in court, not be tried by public opinion because public opinion is set by the press.



posted on Sep, 24 2018 @ 02:47 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: nightbringr

Exactly, look what happened with Roy Moore. Did that ever go to court? I never heard. Did you? Did anyone?


Yep! Same thing with the broads who came out against Trump! What happened to em? @POOF@



posted on Sep, 24 2018 @ 02:48 PM
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originally posted by: MysticPearl
Those stats are complete BS.

If they were even half true, college campuses would basically be like Rwanda and parents wouldn't dare send their kids to university.


Which numbers specifically are you having trouble with?

Or was this just a knee-jerk "It can't be true" reaction.



posted on Sep, 24 2018 @ 02:51 PM
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originally posted by: Topeka1957

originally posted by: MysticPearl
Those stats are complete BS.

If they were even half true, college campuses would basically be like Rwanda and parents wouldn't dare send their kids to university.


Which numbers specifically are you having trouble with?

Or was this just a knee-jerk "It can't be true" reaction.


There was something on one study that found 1 in 4 to be the victim of sexual assault or something like it. That number was found based on self-reporting and the way the question was written. The definition of sexual assault was so loose that just about anything could be found to be sexual assault, even getting looked at in a way that made someone feel uncomfortable.

I wish I could recall where I saw that, but basically they made the definition so broad that you could classify almost anything and say yes.

And they've been running with that stat ever since.

1 in 4 is misleading.
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posted on Sep, 24 2018 @ 02:58 PM
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a reply to: FyreByrd

The accusations are about activities that occurred more than 30 years ago, but they were made at the most politically opportune moment. They ran to the political opposition, not the proper authorities. The motive is clearly not justice, but political assassination.

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