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How the left can win against Donald Trump.

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posted on Sep, 23 2018 @ 07:52 PM
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a reply to: Raggedyman




All they have to do is run a decent, honest and genuine contender and Trump will lose

There are none
End of story




posted on Sep, 23 2018 @ 07:53 PM
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What a stupid suggestion



I like you candor, you insulant swine.





All they have to do is run a decent, honest and genuine contender and Trump will lose



Yes, because they have so many.....Now that was the dumbest thing I have heard in a while.





You offer convoluted insane hate Trump crap instead of focusing on getting a genuine contender up for the job



Once again I have to give it up to you for that prime example of not knowing how to understand the concept I spoke of.





About time these left leaning buffoons stopped blaming others and sorted their own crap,out



And that is exactly what they would achieve if they followed my concept.





Trump is their gift to the world because they were stupid enough to offer nothing else any one wanted



And again in 2020.



posted on Sep, 23 2018 @ 07:57 PM
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Shut it down! The democrats know! We all better run for the hills now!



posted on Sep, 23 2018 @ 07:58 PM
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a reply to: highvein

Well maybe I did miss understand you but
If the opposition is going to focus on a hate campaign, not sort their own problems out, run dishonest criminals then Trump is guaranteed another win

Politics is about offering a more popular choice, a better alternative.
It's that simple.
You are making it about attacking, stroking Trump
How does that even make sense in your head



posted on Sep, 23 2018 @ 08:01 PM
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a reply to: Raggedyman

My understanding is that the OP is talking about right now, not about waiting for election time.

In a sense, he's right. Trump is a businessman and wants a good deal. The left could get a lot of things they want if they were willing to bargain and work with him. The Republicans hate Trump and aren't really working with him, so that would make him all the more receptive to deals.

But that assumes the Democrats are willing to actually deal and not just demand everything.



posted on Sep, 23 2018 @ 08:02 PM
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"The left", or/an idiot on the "right", can all be "baffoons". (The "left", more so, than the right.).. Just based on their "education/indoctrination" levels.
If Pres. D. Trump wasn't, or isn't, the "President"? Set by, under the "law" of our Republic. (We're not a democracy). .. Dems and libs love "the popular vote vomit". There would probably be, a problem in a "democracy". But The U.S.A. isn't a democracy. We're a Republic!
But all I see, is the "left" not getting "their way". Then wanting to bring down the whole United States for not "agreeing"/"tolerating" with/them, their "ideology". What a bunch of pu**y, cowards! Wanting a "lawyer of the crown" to decide their "freedom". I find it funny that "women" seem to be their "weapon" of attacks.

No sane American/native, gives two F**ks, what you "political science/thinkers" believe. Trained animals jumping thru hoops, is not worth paying for, anymore! America is not a fledgling "democracy" we are, and always have been, A REPUBLIC, ("ruled by law and truth").

There's nothing you people, on the "LEFT", can do about it. Other than sharpen swords. But you're "education" is simple and not by, experience. ... There's a difference.

John Kerry, John McCain is not a good example of an "American". ... I'm just saying.



posted on Sep, 23 2018 @ 08:10 PM
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If you're on the "right" or "left"? You'd want a "leader"?.. No?

Government is nothing more, than "basic leadership".
Do you need "leadership" to tell you when to wipe your a**/butt?
I'm just asking.



posted on Sep, 23 2018 @ 08:11 PM
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Well maybe I did miss understand you but If the opposition is going to focus on a hate campaign, not sort their own problems out, run dishonest criminals then Trump is guaranteed another win



Yes, and it is already to late for them to find someone that can beat him. They are a few paths to victory, I am only pointing out one way.





Politics is about offering a more popular choice, a better alternative.



They do not have a better alternative. They will either die as a party or learn the art of comprimise.





You are making it about attacking, stroking Trump


Trump does have a big ego. If you love him, he loves you. It is that simple.



posted on Sep, 23 2018 @ 08:13 PM
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I think the left should be focusing on building a better relationship with the electorate
Trump has proven he is no idiot (don't ask me to qualify that)
But it's a valid point by HV and I missed that in my first read, apologies

I can't see Trump not working to a plan, he may change simple policy but not the stuff he wants
I also don't think Trump is going to alienate the majority for a minority on any serious issues, the left still seem a minority

Irrespective, feeding off others is not healthy and the 2020s must be considered the main focus, not hand to mouth begging
I don't think Trump would let anyone he doesn't trust stroke his ego, he is wired defensively

Stroking Trumps ego is not a plan for the future, sourcing a better option, offering a better option is a plan for the future



posted on Sep, 23 2018 @ 08:15 PM
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Do you live in the U.S? If so you are also under this leadership paradigm. Speed through town and see what happens. Like it or not this is what we have. We have to work with what we got.



posted on Sep, 23 2018 @ 08:17 PM
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a reply to: highvein

My apologise, I did misunderstand but
Begging for handouts based on platitudes? as a plan?

I guess they don't have a better alternative to Trump so they better get a plan organised about getting a better alternative
Feeding off Trump is so short sited, in my opinion it's dumb because Trump is not going to give up much at all, he is a ruthless buisnesman



posted on Sep, 23 2018 @ 08:18 PM
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"Run for the hills"?..I don't know where you come from.

But American "girls", don't even run in my "country".. I'm hoping you're being sarcastic.?! Other than that? ..... You'll need to move.



posted on Sep, 23 2018 @ 08:22 PM
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originally posted by: highvein

originally posted by: Fallingdown
The problem is Trump just can’t win with the liberals. He could call for open borders and the Liberals would suddenly be against them.



That is why I made the thread. To give them some direction because what they are doing is not and will not work.


Them or us ?



posted on Sep, 23 2018 @ 08:25 PM
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Part of winning election is to show what you've accomplished toward your plan.

Trump does have a plan, but he'll wrangle so long as he gets what he needs. Not everything falls under his plan, and not everything is equally important. He's willing to horsetrade.

If they were smart, the left would use that to keep inching their own agenda forward instead of kicking and screaming over everything and getting nothing.



posted on Sep, 23 2018 @ 08:25 PM
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Stroking Trumps ego is not a plan for the future, sourcing a better option, offering a better option is a plan for the future


Okay. Listen. There is no better option than Trump. The left can find no one that has the skill, let alone work ethic as Trump. All they have to do is be nice to Trump. He will then negotiate with them. Right now they are getting nothing, and it is becoming embarrassing seeing them running in place trying to win a race.



posted on Sep, 23 2018 @ 08:27 PM
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Both really.



posted on Sep, 23 2018 @ 08:30 PM
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I am. An American! I am a, US. Soldier, always will be. .."This leadership" ..was/has been, "democratically appointed", by my fellow/socialistic "peers". ... Only the left has a "problem" with "democracy" when it doesn't go "their way". But the U.S.A. is a Republic. Not a "democracy".

Ask me more stupid questions.???



posted on Sep, 23 2018 @ 08:31 PM
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Feeding off Trump is so short sited, in my opinion it's dumb because Trump is not going to give up much at all, he is a ruthless buisnesman


I think that if Trump thought it would be good for America he would do it.



posted on Sep, 23 2018 @ 08:36 PM
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originally posted by: murphy22
a reply to: highvein

I am. An American! I am a, US. Soldier, always will be. .."This leadership" ..was/has been, "democratically appointed", by my fellow/socialistic "peers". ... Only the left has a "problem" with "democracy" when it doesn't go "their way". But the U.S.A. is a Republic. Not a "democracy".

Ask me more stupid questions.???


And somehow that makes you not live under our political paradigm? Of course we live in a republic numb nuts. Did I say we didn't? I am talking about how the left can save their party and beat Trump.
Not that hard to follow dude.




edit on 23-9-2018 by highvein because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 23 2018 @ 08:40 PM
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Maybe if they nominated some who is popular, kind of charming, w/o personal baggage...in other words does not suck, they will have a chance.



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