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Kidney stones grow and dissolve much like geological crystals

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posted on Sep, 22 2018 @ 10:50 PM
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As beautiful as they are painful.



I hear they're terrible to deal with, some of the highest rated pain by those who have had the misfortune. But I just found the image so beautiful, I wanted to share it. Perspective can make the most terrible things beautiful, and the most beautiful -- vicious. Depends on the zoom.


Layers can be seen as the stones grow, and the large blue cavities are dissolved stone, leaving pockets behind.


Kidney stones are usually composed of calcium and oxalate, which is found in nuts, rhubarb, beets and other foods. Shining ultraviolet light on thin sections of the stones revealed colorful mineral strata and collections of what look like gems. “You actually go from thin layers to these great, big — I know it’s weird to use this word — beautiful crystals,” Fouke says.

Science News




posted on Sep, 22 2018 @ 11:00 PM
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a reply to: Kharron

Problem Solved: Rollercoasters






posted on Sep, 22 2018 @ 11:17 PM
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I've had some kidney stones in the past, avoiding high oxylate foods seems to keep mine away. According to my gene app, I have limited amount of the enzyme needed to break down oxylates. Coffee has oxylates in it but also contains chemistry that helps to keep kidney stones from forming.

I like beets, but rarely eat them anymore. I read long ago that they can contribute to kidney stones. If you consume calcium foods or supplements along with the oxylate foods, the stones form in the digestive system and they supposedly do not go through into the blood and cause problems.

There are some natural ways to disolve stones in the kidney, I know a couple of people who successfully got rid of theirs. I do not remember what they were using, I think two ingredients were vinegar and lemon juice but there was one more thing which I do not remember.

Once in a while I still get some small ones, If I stray and consume the high oxylate foods. But I like some of those foods and I screw up. Oxylates can be somewhat broken down by cooking well, but not enough to make much difference if you consume lots of oxylate foods. Spinach cooked well then milk added, like my parents used to do, is not a problem for me even though spinach is high in oxylates. Spinach dip is not bad if you eat a moderate amount because of the sour cream.



posted on Sep, 22 2018 @ 11:21 PM
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a reply to: rickymouse

My mother went full on health nut at one point. Was eating nothing but handfuls of raw spinach and berries and coffee and such...all the while doping on water and vitamins, and minerals etc.

She got a series of kidney stones to beat the band, and renounced





edit on 22-9-2018 by NarcolepticBuddha because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 22 2018 @ 11:25 PM
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a reply to: NarcolepticBuddha

The idiots that believe that they can eat lots of veggies raw are a little nuts. If you eat the right companion foods, it is not as much of a problem, but many people wind up getting kidney stones because they are told these foods are good for you. I think this is a conspiracy, oxylates are just one of the plant defense chemistries used by some plants. Chemistry that sickens or kills herbivores. Deer do not eat spinach. They do not eat some lettuces either, but will chow down on iceberg lettuce.



posted on Sep, 23 2018 @ 04:00 AM
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I've had kidney stones...
The pain is the worst I've experienced. (I've been shot and stabbed) When i got that morphine jab I was a lot happier. Thankfully I didn't have to pass mine (they lasered them) but I was still pissing blood for a week.

edit on 23/9/2018 by UKWO1Phot because: to add


CX

posted on Sep, 23 2018 @ 05:08 AM
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I read this whilst laying in bed...even a week and a half after having one removed and a stent being inserted temporarily.

Like others here, I've been through much pain my life, army incidents and the likes, but I'd rather have that again ten times over than what I've had recently. Mine wasn't massive either, but when a 5mm jagged stone is dragging it's way slowly through a 2mm urethra tube....it would e plain why I've been on the floor four times in a month vomiting and almost passing out.

Morphine has been my best bud recently!


I'll try and take note of the beautiful pictures...but when I'm still pissing what looks like a vintage port, it's hard to see the beauty in such a thing.

Cool pics though, cheers.

CX.



posted on Sep, 23 2018 @ 06:06 AM
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a reply to: UKWO1Phot

you were shot and stabbed? you need a new profession lol.. never had a kidney stone (yet), my father had one and he was in as much pain as his heart surgery. called me and picked him up for work he could barely move, scary really.. just drink whiskey it kills everything



posted on Sep, 23 2018 @ 06:15 AM
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a reply to: rickymouse

If you take calcium or magnesium when you eat high oxalate foods it will form Calcium oxalate or mag oxalate in the gut which doesn’t get absorbed and passes through. Citrate forms of Ca or Mg are better as citrate also binds oxalates.



posted on Sep, 23 2018 @ 07:43 AM
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I, too, get kidney stones. Over 100 a year. Most just pass, like the 3 this week. But the 1 i had 2 months ago meant surgery for a stent put in...breaking up the stone, and the stent taken out...which sucks. My Dr. Literally said "we are using a numbing gell to take the stent out, it will burn."

I try to eat moderately....no crazy diets.

And for those of you who get stones, sell them. Places like Oddities in NYC make weird sh t out of them and sell them.


And the the OP, love the pics...



posted on Sep, 23 2018 @ 09:15 AM
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Got kidney stones? Ride a roller coaster



posted on Sep, 23 2018 @ 10:16 AM
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I had to have surgery to remove my kidney stones over 10 years ago. Luckily I did not get a stent but I was still off work for 6 weeks. I have an X Ray of my kidney stones. Not as pretty as the stones in the op but gives of an idea of the size.



The doctor told me to drink lemonade because it helps keep oxylates from forming. I also drink some apple cider vinegar which helps to desolve kidney stones if they are already formed.

I have been eating a lot of nuts. Deluxe cashews are just so good. No problems yet, thank God.



posted on Sep, 23 2018 @ 10:28 AM
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a reply to: Blueracer

You might do rollercoasters every year as a maintenance thing.



posted on Sep, 23 2018 @ 11:22 AM
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Just let me say FTR that I don't care what they look like. I don't want them.



posted on Sep, 23 2018 @ 11:43 AM
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a reply to: CX


Pssst... Hello Would You like an alternative to pharma-poisons?

For the pain- 'Kratom' There are 3 main ones; Red, Green and White. Red for pain. Green for an 'all around' and White for Focus. I associate them along the Chakras. Red for My broken back; Green for Empathy and Love so I don't strangle the 'Other Me' and White for Your 'Head Piece'

I run 1 of each and then slather some Coconut Oil infused w/both CBD Oil and HempOil and Lavender...

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Amla Indian Gooseberry. See How many Rx meds You can get rid of with this beauty:

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Holy Basil: ALL in One tablet?

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Asante

Stay Hydrated...



posted on Sep, 23 2018 @ 12:19 PM
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Just thought I'd share ... I had kidney stones and my god the pain was horrible. I thought at first it was severe back pain at first. I went to a buddies house he opened the door and immediately said 'what the hell is wrong with you, you look as white as a ghost'. Still assuming it was back pain I laid in his sofa, in his floor and even his bed. After a sleepless night I phoned for a paramedic the next morning as I now believe something more serious was wrong and couldn't get myself to hospital. Spent the next four days in hospital, should of been three as I needed a stent fitted but there was an emergency in the operating theatre which put my operation back a day. Was given morphine .. my god that stuff is brilliant.

Had my operation, initially the doctor drew on my body as to what side the stone was so the surgeon knew what side to go into. I thought to myself 'cool I'm gonna get cut open' .. then the doctor began to tell me how the stent would be inserted. To give you an idea they had to go in through my bladder and up to my kidney and the only way to access that was to go in from my er .. um ... gentlemans area. I felt like I had been violated. It was fun being knocked out for the operation though as I thought I'd try and fight the anaesthetic prior to the surgery. Doctor said count to ten I think I made it to four lol. Fun but scary that something can literally put you to sleep within seconds

Kidney stones was one of the worst things I've experienced especially as when I went to the bathroom to do my business it was like I was passing red wine


CX

posted on Sep, 23 2018 @ 07:00 PM
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a reply to: ThePeaceMaker

This is exactly what I'm going through at the moment! Red wine for pee, a week left with the stent, which makes my kidney hurt almost as much as the original stone.

If these comments don't make people go drink a ton of water every day, there's no teaching them!


CX.
edit on 23/9/18 by CX because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 23 2018 @ 09:38 PM
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originally posted by: JimNasium
a reply to: CX


Pssst... Hello Would You like an alternative to pharma-poisons?

For the pain- 'Kratom' There are 3 main ones; Red, Green and White. Red for pain. Green for an 'all around' and White for Focus. I associate them along the Chakras. Red for My broken back; Green for Empathy and Love so I don't strangle the 'Other Me' and White for Your 'Head Piece'

I run 1 of each and then slather some Coconut Oil infused w/both CBD Oil and HempOil and Lavender...

These are for Your 'General Well Being' These couple will get You back to "Balanced"

therenegadepharmacist.com...

Amla Indian Gooseberry. See How many Rx meds You can get rid of with this beauty:

www.organicfacts.net...

Got Dia-BeatUs?

www.masteringdiabetes.org...

www.organicfacts.net...

Holy Basil: ALL in One tablet?

www.healthline.com...

Asante

Stay Hydrated...


I don't know about Amla for kidney stones. I have a gooseberry bush out by our flowers, I also have alma in my cabinet. The article says it is high in vitamin C and vitamin C actually increases oxylic acid in the body and increases calcium uptake. So I would think even with the diuretic properties that it would not help deter kidney stone formation. I got the bottle of Amla to test it's effects since I like gooseberries. I prefer eating the gooseberries better than the pill.



posted on Sep, 23 2018 @ 10:00 PM
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a reply to: rickymouse

Vitamin C can indeed contribute to stones, did with me anyway. Worst disabling pain I have ever experienced, thought I was dying.
Pure lemon juice, and pure unsweetened grapefruit juice, dealt with mine, no stents or surgery..but having said that, grapefruit juice has oxylic acid, and may not be helpful, depends on the stone I think.



posted on Sep, 23 2018 @ 10:13 PM
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originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: rickymouse

Vitamin C can indeed contribute to stones, did with me anyway. Worst disabling pain I have ever experienced, thought I was dying.
Pure lemon juice, and pure unsweetened grapefruit juice, dealt with mine, no stents or surgery..but having said that, grapefruit juice has oxylic acid, and may not be helpful, depends on the stone I think.


I think of sulfur foods as soap. They can stop the charge that causes sticking of things together. glue works on the principle of causing a charge difference which binds molecules together. There are many solvents for different applications, but sulfur compounds can deter things from sticking together in our bodies. Bromelain sulfur chemistry relaxes the charge that causes platelets from sticking together. Sort of like an aspirin does.



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