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Texas father and son allegedly killed neighbor over mattress in trash bin

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posted on Sep, 22 2018 @ 07:38 AM
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originally posted by: Fallingdown
a reply to: TinySickTears

Both sides could’ve walked away . But it’s tough to see that with blinders on .


of course they could have.
did both sides get killed?


i get it though.
kill em all.




posted on Sep, 22 2018 @ 07:39 AM
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originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: Gothmog

unlike many
i say/post exactly what i mean


There are better ways than posting with the same fashion of the type of folk you described .
Pot meet kettle.
You may not care , yet we do.


edit on 9/22/18 by Gothmog because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 22 2018 @ 07:41 AM
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originally posted by: Gothmog

You may not care , yet we do.



maybe you should stop caring then because i am not going to change what i post or how i post.
save yourself the time



posted on Sep, 22 2018 @ 07:43 AM
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originally posted by: Fallingdown
I say the odds are better than 50-50 that the two fat guys will be acquitted .


After reading more about that case I don't think the odds will be that good. If they would have stopped after the first two shots when Howard was allegedly armed with a bat they might have had a better chance, but they shot him three more times while he was on the ground.




edit on 22-9-2018 by AugustusMasonicus because: Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn



posted on Sep, 22 2018 @ 07:45 AM
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originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: Gothmog

unlike many
i say/post exactly what i mean


Ah...! But this then begs the question:

Do you mean what you post?

P.S. And why don't you have capital letters on your posting device? Asking for a friend.



posted on Sep, 22 2018 @ 07:48 AM
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edit on 9/22/18 by Gothmog because: NVM , not worth my time



posted on Sep, 22 2018 @ 07:48 AM
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originally posted by: LightSpeedDriver

originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: Gothmog

unlike many
i say/post exactly what i mean


Ah...! But this then begs the question:

Do you mean what you post?

P.S. And why don't you have capital letters on your posting device? Asking for a friend.


yes i mean what i post

yes i have caps. i use the every now and then for thread titles and names of people if i really care about them. other than that i can be bothered.
you can be sure that is not going to change either



posted on Sep, 22 2018 @ 08:01 AM
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originally posted by: Nucleardoom
a reply to: Gothmog

The old guy was dodging the bat that Sasquatch threw at him while performing a death rattle.


That was a dumba.. move
Throwing a bat at someone with a pistol....
Some folks aint right bright.



posted on Sep, 22 2018 @ 08:03 AM
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a reply to: Gothmog

Maybe it was Batfink. "My wings are like a shield of steel!"



posted on Sep, 22 2018 @ 08:06 AM
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After reviewing the video, I see a very large and angry drunk guy attack two other guys. Look at this guy's temper? No sh*t they went out there armed, to talk. The argument may have been over a mattress but not the shooting. The wife even provoking them saying they wont shoot, probably gave the guy some "courage" to make his move, and it cost him.



posted on Sep, 22 2018 @ 08:17 AM
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originally posted by: LightSpeedDriver
a reply to: Gothmog

Maybe it was Batfink. "My wings are like a shield of steel!"

I got nuthin , now....



posted on Sep, 22 2018 @ 08:20 AM
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The way I’ve heard this reported, baseball bat guy kept throwing mattress in alley dumpster in effort to dispose of it. Older big guy with gun kept pulling it out of dumpster and throwing it back in baseball bat guys yard (guess he thought it took up too much space). Could be considered “dumping”, but gun guy could have reported to code enforcement if that’s the case.

I think a jury could easily be convinced by a prosecutor that gun guy provoked it, which means stand your ground may go a very different way. The bond on these two was $25k each. Was raised to $250k each after this video was released, which is probably an indicator.

I am a licensed to carry individual in Texas. This behavior gun guys demonstrated is contrary to everything gone over in class...at least the one I attended. And the video makes it pretty obvious they weren’t in “fear” of anything.



posted on Sep, 22 2018 @ 08:20 AM
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originally posted by: CosmicAwakening
...drunk guy...


Did they release toxicology reports?



posted on Sep, 22 2018 @ 08:22 AM
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originally posted by: Lab4Us
...which means stand your ground may go a very different way.


There is no stand your ground when you shoot someone on the ground that you've already shot which is why they were charged with murder.



posted on Sep, 22 2018 @ 08:24 AM
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originally posted by: CosmicAwakening
After reviewing the video, I see a very large and angry drunk guy attack two other guys. Look at this guy's temper? No sh*t they went out there armed, to talk. The argument may have been over a mattress but not the shooting. The wife even provoking them saying they wont shoot, probably gave the guy some "courage" to make his move, and it cost him.

They were all 3 in the wrong




posted on Sep, 22 2018 @ 08:26 AM
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I see two parties in the wrong. The instigating on both sides was at least inappropriate and possibly criminal. Four shots being fired is why these people are going to jail.
edit on 22-9-2018 by Antipathy17 because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 22 2018 @ 08:26 AM
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originally posted by: Gothmog
a reply to: TinySickTears




i give a # what you think

You dont have to give a blank what we think....
At least give a blank about what you post


This is the site of civil discourse right?

Ah. 'was..'



posted on Sep, 22 2018 @ 08:36 AM
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a reply to: watchandwait410


I watched the vid and I think he deserved what happened .. he got shot because he went to get his gun after threats to kill both men holding the guns .. just silly when he’s got his child with him .. bail was 25 grand so at least they are out of prison at the moment 👍



posted on Sep, 22 2018 @ 08:58 AM
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originally posted by: nofear39
a reply to: watchandwait410


I watched the vid and I think he deserved what happened .. he got shot because he went to get his gun after threats to kill both men holding the guns .. just silly when he’s got his child with him .. bail was 25 grand so at least they are out of prison at the moment 👍


dude was an obnoxious asshole for sure

having said that he got shot cause the two fat cowboys couldnt just be adults and walk away.

thats how i see it

none of them are in the right

supposed to be responsible gun owners right

they dont seem like that to me

i hope they rot in jail



posted on Sep, 22 2018 @ 09:25 AM
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a reply to: TinySickTears
Have a fight like British blokes pretty much everywhere outside of London do without weapons?
That's crazy talk mate grab a gun or a knife to enforce your place in the pecking order, like real cowboys.
I prefer injury and being put in my place over death for sure.
The shooter was a coward and needlessly killed someone when a broken nose and jaw would have been enough.



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