Sunspot Observatory Closed Over Child Porn

a reply to: Zaphod58

What does "scrounge bags" mean?

originally posted by: Zaphod58

originally posted by: underwerks
Sounds to me like the feds had someone on the inside at the observatory monitoring some piece of equipment that they then extracted along with the person.

If that’s the case I wonder what kind of equipment it was?

Sure does, doesn't it.

I found some of the janitors alleged comments strange:

According to the documents, the observatory’s chief observer reportedly informed his superior when he discovered a black Lenovo laptop with concerning material on it. The superior then alerted the FBI who narrowed down the suspect list and then found that only one of those suspects’ timelines lined up with the suspicious online activity, court documents show. Additionally, the chief observer reported seeing the laptop near cleaning supplies. After FBI seized the computer, the suspect reportedly began expressing concern about loose security and said he was worried that someone was entering the facility at night and stealing internet service and toilet paper.

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Going with the theory that he was planted there by the feds to monitor some piece of equipment, what if someone really did take his laptop or otherwise steal information from him? And the search for that information and who stole it is why they closed down places surrounding the observatory?

I’m just spitballing. Something else that seems strange is the comment:

Additionally, the chief observer reported seeing the laptop near cleaning supplies.

That sounds like something someone made up in a rush to validate the official story. “Oh, I saw the laptop near cleaning supplies, so yeah. I’m thinking the janitor.”

Then again, it could just be some piece of mundane surveillance equipment that unintentionally was made into a news story by someone in charge screwing up the operation to extract it. By calling in the cavalry and making it into a public spectacle.

Regardless, there’s always a part of me that wants to say aliens.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: howtonhawky

Because I'm not going to burn people that do know and do tell what is going on. I never have and I'm not going to start now. There's a fine line that can be walked but cross it and you screw someone.

Oh so officials have leaked info to you.

Great that we have people in charge that can not be trusted.

It could be also that such people have fed you full of crap cause they knew you would regurgitate it here.

So you have admitted now to taking the piss and you have heard rumors and believe them.

Disregard any perceived insults from me and tell us does the story passed on to you by unnamed sources add up? Is this a confluence of events coinciding with each other thereby creating something perceived that is not reality.

mountain out of a molehill?

a reply to: trollz

Because I'm not going to burn the people that know these things and talk to me. If I come out and say exactly what happened, and only so many people know what happened, it seriously narrows the field as to who leaked, and someone gets their career nuked.

Scrounge bags are bags that maintenance people keep around that have the most common spare parts in them. If something gets sent out with a bunch of extra parts, some of those parts make their way into a bag somewhere. If you don't want them out there, you need to find them.

a reply to: howtonhawky

There are a lot more than officials that know what's going on. There are a lot of working class people that work on these projects, and they like to talk to people, especially people they trust. They can't exactly go to their usual friends and sit down, so they find people that are in the industry or former industry and talk to them, because they get it.

If you don't like it, you don't have to read what I say.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: trollz
Scrounge bags are bags that maintenance people keep around that have the most common spare parts in them. If something gets sent out with a bunch of extra parts, some of those parts make their way into a bag somewhere. If you don't want them out there, you need to find them.

Sorry if I'm trying to ask things you can't answer, but...
Does this imply that certain pieces of equipment were lost track of, as in potentially stolen, hence the post office and homes being shut down to figure out who took them and where?
Is this whole thing over someone stealing some super-special screw or something?

a reply to: howtonhawky

It’s about reading between the lines. People in the know will answer your questions more often than not, but they answer them in a way that isn’t an answer. It’s more about how they say what they’re saying than what they’re saying.

Source: I’ve spent years trying to pry information out of tight lipped family members, who have never given me a literal answer to anything. After a while, you pick up on the cues.

If Zaph or anyone else knows what’s really going on, I don’t blame them for not just coming right out and saying it. They’d probably be throwing friends of theirs under the bus by doing that.

a reply to: trollz

It's about making sure everything is where it's supposed to be.

Not about something being stolen, but when you pull equipment you have to make sure it's all there.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: howtonhawky

There are a lot more than officials that know what's going on. There are a lot of working class people that work on these projects, and they like to talk to people, especially people they trust. They can't exactly go to their usual friends and sit down, so they find people that are in the industry or former industry and talk to them, because they get it.

If you don't like it, you don't have to read what I say.

It is not that i like it or that i do not and i raised my concerns over the info you have put forth and you clarified it with saying many people not in the official loop know what happened.

Let us do it this way. Think of a movie or a show that you enjoy watching.

What show or movie are you thinking of now?

originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: howtonhawky

It’s about reading between the lines. People in the know will answer your questions more often than not, but they answer them in a way that isn’t an answer. It’s more about how they say what they’re saying than what they’re saying.

Source: I’ve spent years trying to pry information out of tight lipped family members, who have never given me a literal answer to anything. After a while, you pick up on the cues.

If Zaph or anyone else knows what’s really going on, I don’t blame them for not just coming right out and saying it. They’d probably be throwing friends of theirs under the bus by doing that.

pffft

You just described my entire life. I know the game. We have much in common. There are better ways to pass info on.

originally posted by: howtonhawky

originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: howtonhawky

It’s about reading between the lines. People in the know will answer your questions more often than not, but they answer them in a way that isn’t an answer. It’s more about how they say what they’re saying than what they’re saying.

Source: I’ve spent years trying to pry information out of tight lipped family members, who have never given me a literal answer to anything. After a while, you pick up on the cues.

If Zaph or anyone else knows what’s really going on, I don’t blame them for not just coming right out and saying it. They’d probably be throwing friends of theirs under the bus by doing that.

pffft

You just described my entire life. I know the game. We have much in common. There are better ways to pass info on.

Then why try to put him on the spot in front of everyone? Follow the breadcrumbs and find your info if you know what to do. It’s also a lot more fun than just being told outright what’s going on.

So what i'm getting is that someone took something they shouldn't have , But just what kind of equipment from an Observatory would merit such action ?

originally posted by: underwerks

originally posted by: howtonhawky

originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: howtonhawky

It’s about reading between the lines. People in the know will answer your questions more often than not, but they answer them in a way that isn’t an answer. It’s more about how they say what they’re saying than what they’re saying.

Source: I’ve spent years trying to pry information out of tight lipped family members, who have never given me a literal answer to anything. After a while, you pick up on the cues.

If Zaph or anyone else knows what’s really going on, I don’t blame them for not just coming right out and saying it. They’d probably be throwing friends of theirs under the bus by doing that.

pffft

You just described my entire life. I know the game. We have much in common. There are better ways to pass info on.

Then why try to put him on the spot in front of everyone? Follow the breadcrumbs and find your info if you know what to do. It’s also a lot more fun than just being told outright what’s going on.

Because he is taking the piss and making the lot look very bad.

The poster (mod) is making the claim that people who have been reported to sign nondisclosure agreements broke their oaths in order to get the truth out to him and only him.

If as he says many people know the truth that are not in the loop then why would they not be telling the truth on the net. Info travels fast these days and i am led to believe that somehow he knows the truth and the official story being put out is not true yet he is allowed to beat around the bush for nearly a week now yet he is not at all worried about repercussions of coming on the net and giving us clues to the truth and somehow the government would not question him for such since his truth does not match the official narrative.

It just does not add up at all. I think someone has been reading too much Q.

a reply to: Zaphod58

I'm not worried.

now you contradict not only the government but also your near week long insinuations you claim to be true.

If you are not worried then tell what is on your mind.

At least the rest of us have the decency to say we are speculating.

either way i will leave you alone to continue your piss.

a reply to: howtonhawky

I get it. You don't like me, that's fine. But if you don't like what I say, then ignore it. It's really that done.

originally posted by: howtonhawky
It just does not add up at all. I think someone has been reading too much Q.

Well, given his professional background, I don't doubt he knows what he's talking about...

a reply to: Zaphod58

At 9:59 in the following video it shows an X Files dvd case sitting on top of a trash can at the closed observatory, could this be considered a clue?

originally posted by: trollz

originally posted by: howtonhawky
It just does not add up at all. I think someone has been reading too much Q.

Well, given his professional background, I don't doubt he knows what he's talking about...

If you take the sunspot threads out of the equation then i totally agree with you. Extremely knowledgeable in aviation and a stand out poster.

Question Everything

I have a hard time believing that unofficial people know what happened for sure.

Givin that he doubts the official story it kinda throws out all professional credibility.

I guess my main problem is that i hate secrets and people leading people on.