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Brexit is a Mess, how do we Fix it.

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posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 05:39 PM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: NiNjABackflip
a reply to: ScepticScot

ref·er·en·dum
ˌrefəˈrendəm/Submit
noun
a general vote by the electorate on a single political question that has been referred to them for a direct decision.



Yes and a revote would be a referendum. Not sure how that is confusing you.


The decision has been made. I'm not sure how that is confusing you. Do you want a revote because you lost?




posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 05:42 PM
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originally posted by: NiNjABackflip

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: NiNjABackflip
a reply to: ScepticScot

ref·er·en·dum
ˌrefəˈrendəm/Submit
noun
a general vote by the electorate on a single political question that has been referred to them for a direct decision.



Yes and a revote would be a referendum. Not sure how that is confusing you.


The decision has been made. I'm not sure how that is confusing you. Do you want a revote because you lost?


I will take that as you acknowledging you are wrong.

It's not a sporting event, winning and losing aren't the issue, it's making sure that a major and probably irreversible constitutional decision is the will of the people.



posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 05:43 PM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: NiNjABackflip

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: NiNjABackflip
a reply to: ScepticScot

ref·er·en·dum
ˌrefəˈrendəm/Submit
noun
a general vote by the electorate on a single political question that has been referred to them for a direct decision.



Yes and a revote would be a referendum. Not sure how that is confusing you.


The decision has been made. I'm not sure how that is confusing you. Do you want a revote because you lost?


I will take that as you acknowledging you are wrong.

It's not a sporting event, winning and losing aren't the issue, it's making sure that a major and probably irreversible constitutional decision is the will of the people.


I will take that as you acknowledging I am right, and you are wrong.

If you want to reverse a referendum, it is only because you are a sore loser or tyrannical.



posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 05:45 PM
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originally posted by: NiNjABackflip

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: NiNjABackflip

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: NiNjABackflip
a reply to: ScepticScot

ref·er·en·dum
ˌrefəˈrendəm/Submit
noun
a general vote by the electorate on a single political question that has been referred to them for a direct decision.



Yes and a revote would be a referendum. Not sure how that is confusing you.


The decision has been made. I'm not sure how that is confusing you. Do you want a revote because you lost?


I will take that as you acknowledging you are wrong.

It's not a sporting event, winning and losing aren't the issue, it's making sure that a major and probably irreversible constitutional decision is the will of the people.


I will take that as you acknowledging I am right, and you are wrong.

If you want to reverse a referendum, it is only because you are a sore loser or tyrannical.


Have you successfully grasped that we are talking about another referendum now?

You have now claimed referendums are undemocratic and tyrannical!



posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 05:47 PM
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a reply to: ScepticScot




Have you successfully grasped that we are talking about another referendum now?

You have now claimed referendums are undemocratic and tyrannical!


No I claimed attempting to reverse a referendum is undemocratic, and that you are tyrannical.



posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 05:49 PM
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originally posted by: NiNjABackflip
a reply to: ScepticScot




Have you successfully grasped that we are talking about another referendum now?

You have now claimed referendums are undemocratic and tyrannical!


No I claimed attempting to reverse a referendum is undemocratic, and that you are tyrannical.



We are talking about having another referendum ( which I assume you now understand) not tyranny.



posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 05:51 PM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: NiNjABackflip
a reply to: ScepticScot




Have you successfully grasped that we are talking about another referendum now?

You have now claimed referendums are undemocratic and tyrannical!


No I claimed attempting to reverse a referendum is undemocratic, and that you are tyrannical.



We are talking about having another referendum ( which I assume you now understand) not tyranny.


Yes you're talking about reversing a vote, refusing the results of a referendum, because it didn't go the way you wanted it to. That's tyranny.



posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 05:53 PM
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originally posted by: NiNjABackflip

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: NiNjABackflip
a reply to: ScepticScot




Have you successfully grasped that we are talking about another referendum now?

You have now claimed referendums are undemocratic and tyrannical!


No I claimed attempting to reverse a referendum is undemocratic, and that you are tyrannical.



We are talking about having another referendum ( which I assume you now understand) not tyranny.


Yes you're talking about reversing a vote, refusing the results of a referendum, because it didn't go the way you wanted it to. That's tyranny.


You seem to be as confused about what tyranny is as you are about what a referendum is.

Hint - Democratically asking the people is not tyranny.



posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 05:54 PM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: NiNjABackflip

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: NiNjABackflip
a reply to: ScepticScot




Have you successfully grasped that we are talking about another referendum now?

You have now claimed referendums are undemocratic and tyrannical!


No I claimed attempting to reverse a referendum is undemocratic, and that you are tyrannical.



We are talking about having another referendum ( which I assume you now understand) not tyranny.


Yes you're talking about reversing a vote, refusing the results of a referendum, because it didn't go the way you wanted it to. That's tyranny.


You seem to be as confused about what tyranny is as you are about what a referendum is.

Hint - Democratically asking the people is not tyranny.



Why do you want a revote?



posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 05:57 PM
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originally posted by: NiNjABackflip

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: NiNjABackflip

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: NiNjABackflip
a reply to: ScepticScot




Have you successfully grasped that we are talking about another referendum now?

You have now claimed referendums are undemocratic and tyrannical!


No I claimed attempting to reverse a referendum is undemocratic, and that you are tyrannical.



We are talking about having another referendum ( which I assume you now understand) not tyranny.


Yes you're talking about reversing a vote, refusing the results of a referendum, because it didn't go the way you wanted it to. That's tyranny.


You seem to be as confused about what tyranny is as you are about what a referendum is.

Hint - Democratically asking the people is not tyranny.



Why do you want a revote?


Because this would be the most dramatic constitutional and economic change in the UK in decades.

People should be allowed a vote on the final outcome.



posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 05:59 PM
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Because this would be the most dramatic constitutional and economic change in the UK in decades.

People should be allowed a vote on the final outcome.


They already have voted on the final outcome. I'm asking why you want a revote.



posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 06:01 PM
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We do not fix it - we pay people to fix it !

And if they cannot do that sack them as unfit for purpose

Or take them outside and shoot the fxxxxxs



posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 06:06 PM
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originally posted by: NiNjABackflip
a reply to: ScepticScot




Because this would be the most dramatic constitutional and economic change in the UK in decades.

People should be allowed a vote on the final outcome.


They already have voted on the final outcome. I'm asking why you want a revote.


No we voted on leaving the EU 2 years ago. There was no final agreement or even plan of what that would look like.



posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 06:06 PM
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originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: ForteanOrg




That's what I think should be done.


Not a " Cat In Hells Chance "

Friday March 29 2019 we are out of The E.U.

Could you imagine if in 1939 Britain was asked to assess for 2 years if it should go to war with Nazi Germany to see what the consequences would be if it did?

Europe forgets Britain's sacrifice during those times.


We were not discussing the war, we were discussing Brexit.



posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 06:09 PM
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originally posted by: ForteanOrg

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: ForteanOrg




That's what I think should be done.


Not a " Cat In Hells Chance "

Friday March 29 2019 we are out of The E.U.

Could you imagine if in 1939 Britain was asked to assess for 2 years if it should go to war with Nazi Germany to see what the consequences would be if it did?

Europe forgets Britain's sacrifice during those times.


We were not discussing the war, we were discussing Brexit.


Some people seem to confuse the two.



posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 06:12 PM
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a reply to: ScepticScot




No we voted on leaving the EU 2 years ago.


That's right. Did that vote not go the way you wanted?



posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 06:16 PM
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originally posted by: NiNjABackflip
a reply to: ScepticScot




No we voted on leaving the EU 2 years ago.


That's right. Did that vote not go the way you wanted?


Irreverent. Why are you so scared of democracy that you oppose having another vote.

I didn't think you were even from the UK (Canada?) So it can't be personal interest. Do you just oppose democracy in principle?



posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 06:18 PM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: NiNjABackflip
a reply to: ScepticScot




No we voted on leaving the EU 2 years ago.


That's right. Did that vote not go the way you wanted?


Irreverent. Why are you so scared of democracy that you oppose having another vote.

I didn't think you were even from the UK (Canada?) So it can't be personal interest. Do you just oppose democracy in principle?


No, I'm just wondering why you want to nullify the results of a referendum. I'm guessing because it didn't turn out the way you wanted.



posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 06:21 PM
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originally posted by: NiNjABackflip

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: NiNjABackflip
a reply to: ScepticScot




No we voted on leaving the EU 2 years ago.


That's right. Did that vote not go the way you wanted?


Irreverent. Why are you so scared of democracy that you oppose having another vote.

I didn't think you were even from the UK (Canada?) So it can't be personal interest. Do you just oppose democracy in principle?


No, I'm just wondering why you want to nullify the results of a referendum. I'm guessing because it didn't turn out the way you wanted.


I want people to have the right to vote on accepting the final agreement. I want to make sure there is genuine public consent for the biggest change to the UK since the 1940s.

The only reason to oppose a second referendum seems to be fear of a different result.



posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 06:25 PM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: NiNjABackflip

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: NiNjABackflip
a reply to: ScepticScot




No we voted on leaving the EU 2 years ago.


That's right. Did that vote not go the way you wanted?


Irreverent. Why are you so scared of democracy that you oppose having another vote.

I didn't think you were even from the UK (Canada?) So it can't be personal interest. Do you just oppose democracy in principle?


No, I'm just wondering why you want to nullify the results of a referendum. I'm guessing because it didn't turn out the way you wanted.


I want people to have the right to vote on accepting the final agreement. I want to make sure there is genuine public consent for the biggest change to the UK since the 1940s.

The only reason to oppose a second referendum seems to be fear of a different result.


The only reason you'd want a second referendum is because you didn't like the results of the first one.



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