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Citizen scoring.

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posted on Sep, 19 2018 @ 07:24 AM
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originally posted by: dreamingawake
Nope, that is the furthest from the truth. Very concerning for privacy rights.


How is it not true? When people compete, those who participate in the competition get better.

If that fact is not true, then you are also saying that the entire premise behind capitalism is flawed and that we need to overturn the very concept of ownership.




posted on Sep, 19 2018 @ 07:25 AM
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originally posted by: Navieko
The ironic thing is, the OP wouldn't dare out himself with these ideas on one of his public social platforms like Facebook or in real life - as I'm sure he knows full-well that he'd get socially crucified for having such ridiculous thoughts.

I sincerely hope this OP was a joke.


You would be wrong.



posted on Sep, 19 2018 @ 07:31 AM
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originally posted by: GENERAL EYES
Does your signature hold weight on this topic?


It's possible, but this is hardly an original idea and people much smarter than me have spent considerable time working on it. Facebook and Google are trying to implement their own systems in order to curb toxic online behavior. China is leading the way with national social credit scores, but the US already effectively uses one with a credit score, the UK is beginning to build one, and Germany has a less extreme version already implemented.

If I'm a madman, then I am not alone.



posted on Sep, 19 2018 @ 07:31 AM
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originally posted by: DISRAELI
It strikes me that this is exactly what is meant by the prediction that only those who have the Mark of the Beast will be allowed to "buy and sell". I think we have now discovered the meaning of that passage in Revelation.
Those who don't worship the Beast will obviously rank low in their citizen scoring, with all the penalties that implies.


I remember when the same was said about credit reporting agencies.



posted on Sep, 19 2018 @ 07:33 AM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
Yes, doing everything by popular consensus is awesome and never, ever leads you to degradation.


So you're saying it would be better if a handful of government officials made a decree as to how scoring should work?



posted on Sep, 19 2018 @ 07:40 AM
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a reply to: Aazadan




and Germany has a less extreme version already implemented.


The Schufa isn't even close to this dystopian Nosedive you're up to here.



edit on 19-9-2018 by PublicOpinion because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 19 2018 @ 07:42 AM
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originally posted by: Aazadan

originally posted by: ketsuko
Yes, doing everything by popular consensus is awesome and never, ever leads you to degradation.


So you're saying it would be better if a handful of government officials made a decree as to how scoring should work?


That is how it usually works in the systems you propose. They do it in the people's name. They claim to institute the public will and what the people want.

Don't you pay attention to the bureaucrats?



posted on Sep, 19 2018 @ 07:43 AM
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originally posted by: PublicOpinion
The Schufa isn't even close to this dystopian Nosedive you're up to here.


But it is the first step.



posted on Sep, 19 2018 @ 07:45 AM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
That is how it usually works in the systems you propose. They do it in the people's name. They claim to institute the public will and what the people want.

Don't you pay attention to the bureaucrats?


So if you had a choice would you rather it be decided a few people or by everyone?



posted on Sep, 19 2018 @ 07:46 AM
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a reply to: Aazadan
Social credit scoring fits the description more accurately, because the description is not really about money as such. That was the mistake made by people who identified it with credit cards, credit scoring, till receipts, etc.
Mind you, I am not saying that credit scoring as such is the Mark of the Beast. It only becomes the Mark when "You shall worship the leader in the place of God" becomes one of the scoring criteria. Until then, it is merely a potential tool.




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posted on Sep, 19 2018 @ 07:48 AM
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originally posted by: DISRAELI
a reply to: Aazadan
Social credit scoring fits the description more accurately, because the description is not really about money as such. That was the mistake made by people who identified it with credit cards, credit scoring, till receipts, etc.
Mind you, I am not saying that credit scoring as such is the Mark of the Beast. It only becomes the Mark when "You shall worship the leader in the place of God" becomes one of the scoring criteria. Until then, it is merely a potential tool.


Well, fortunately for us, our money puts forward the claim that the central bank is god.



posted on Sep, 19 2018 @ 07:55 AM
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a reply to: Aazadan




(which are what inspired the Chinese system)

Source that.



posted on Sep, 19 2018 @ 07:58 AM
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a reply to: Aazadan




Facebook and Google are trying to implement their own systems in order to curb toxic online behavior.

And therein lies the problem. Private companies dictating policy



posted on Sep, 19 2018 @ 07:58 AM
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originally posted by: Gothmog
(which are what inspired the Chinese system)


Their system functions through the reporting agencies of several credit systems, originally starting with financial credit, and then expanding to other types of monitoring that work on the same principles.



posted on Sep, 19 2018 @ 07:59 AM
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originally posted by: Aazadan

originally posted by: DISRAELI
a reply to: Aazadan
Social credit scoring fits the description more accurately, because the description is not really about money as such. That was the mistake made by people who identified it with credit cards, credit scoring, till receipts, etc.
Mind you, I am not saying that credit scoring as such is the Mark of the Beast. It only becomes the Mark when "You shall worship the leader in the place of God" becomes one of the scoring criteria. Until then, it is merely a potential tool.


Well, fortunately for us, our money puts forward the claim that the central bank is god.

Source that , too



posted on Sep, 19 2018 @ 08:01 AM
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originally posted by: Gothmog
Source that , too


In God We Trust, it's right on the money. Originally it was put there to show that we're not godless commies, but without that context it implies that either the money or provider of the money is god, or that the government buildings which the phrase appears over is god.
edit on 19-9-2018 by Aazadan because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 19 2018 @ 08:02 AM
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originally posted by: Gothmog
a reply to: Aazadan




Facebook and Google are trying to implement their own systems in order to curb toxic online behavior.

And therein lies the problem. Private companies dictating policy


How is a company trying to create and enforce a code of conduct on their own network dictating policy?



posted on Sep, 19 2018 @ 08:27 AM
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Didn't I saw this on an episode of the Orville

The episode examines "mob mentality," the court of public opinion, and the role of social media. It was written entirely by Seth MacFarlane, who later said he was inspired by the book So You've Been Publicly Shamed. Majority 
orville.wikia.com...



posted on Sep, 19 2018 @ 09:40 AM
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Essentially, what I propose is that we score each person by some criteria, and rank each persons conduct on a scale from being the absolute best person in the country to the absolute worst.


So , if some people are disabled , they should be shamed with a low score , and each one of those blind /deaf/ dumb / physically challenged wheelchair bound people should be volunteered for suicide ..

They are the worst drain upon our National Resources !

Is that correct , Mein Fuhrer ?



as a way to encourage competitiveness among the population and force people to be better.


So , the child born with Spina bifida should be trampled by the herd in a rush to win against others ? If you give it a bad score for it's poor attendance at school , would that then force it to be better at life ?

Of course, the child would benefit from it's chastisement by the whole of society knowing it was worthless , and that it didn't try hard enough , and that it was all it's own fault. It would carry a pathetic number in comparison to our finest Citizens

Hail , the beauty of National Socialism in it's finest hour ! We shall have no more freeloaders ! Let us banish the weak from sharing the assets of our Great Country ! Let us uplift the carriers of responsibilty for themselves with more benefits and free travel , let us give most unto those who contribute most, unto our society ! (sarc.)

Sarcasm , because the reality is that FU and your society Hitler



posted on Sep, 19 2018 @ 10:48 AM
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originally posted by: DoctorBluechip
So , if some people are disabled , they should be shamed with a low score , and each one of those blind /deaf/ dumb / physically challenged wheelchair bound people should be volunteered for suicide ..


Where did I say or imply that?



So , the child born with Spina bifida should be trampled by the herd in a rush to win against others ? If you give it a bad score for it's poor attendance at school , would that then force it to be better at life ?


Everyone has problems in life. People should be encouraged to overcome them.


Hail , the beauty of National Socialism in it's finest hour ! We shall have no more freeloaders ! Let us banish the weak from sharing the assets of our Great Country ! Let us uplift the carriers of responsibilty for themselves with more benefits and free travel , let us give most unto those who contribute most, unto our society ! (sarc.)


Where did I ever say that? I have no problem with helping others, what I proposed would actually encourage it. If someone is trying their best and still can't make it, why shouldn't they get help? Similarly, why should someone be rewarded if they're naturally gifted and can excel without trying? Those people should be encouraged to work to their potential as well.







 
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