reply to: Lumenari
With all respect, invoking Jesus here is going to change the reality and I am doubtful that is doing any favor the open the access of progress to the
minorities, the constructive topic the thread wants to discuss if you don't understand it.
There is no need to launch a personal attack to see that the Mexican Astronaut you are mentioning went to space about 5 years after the Cuban
cosmonaut, when No American Minorities have had that chance.
Do you know that the first Native American to go to space was just in 2002?
John Herrington, 1st Native American in space
Considered the number of slots available to travel to space in 1960s and 1970s that does Not look very fair, to don't say it is really odd.
Now, objectively talking there are many Cubans that do not have African Ancestry at all, and if the idea was to chose a representative person of
the general population of the island the choice of Tamayo-Mendez was not necessarily the logical one.
All the figures of the Astronautics you are mentioning went to the outer space after the Cuban Cosmonaut, none of them were even closely in time frame
to him, among the African in-heritage ones you have brought to discussion.
The first ones of African ancestry, as well as of Hispanic background, you are mentioning became Astronauts during the era of the Space Shuttle, that
is the fourth generation of the USA Space program.
There were No women, No Hispanic, No African descendants at all in any of the missions of the entire Mercury, Gemini and Apollo programs, none of
those minorities were at all represented in the opening of the space race or the conquest of the moon. The statistics show that other minorities like
the Asian, Muslim or Jewish Americans were not in better position, were also segregated of that opportunity.
Now, since the intention of the thread is to motivate a serious discussion through actual information we must recognize that at least one minority was
able to go through the system of selection of Astronauts in America since the very early stages of the space program: the Italian Americans, with
Wally Schirra who was in the Mercury program, the 5th American in Space and 9th man in the space, that was good but well to claim that Italians are
nor white neither of European origin sounds really extreme.
Wally Schirra, First Italian American Astronaut
Now the discrimination was not only toward not white people, it was also of gender, the First woman astronaut sent to the space by America was
almost a quarter of century after Valentina Tereshkova orbital flight, that was in a Vostok Spacecraft, a first generation Soviet one.
Now, the spirit of the thread is also to contribute in the discussion that is right now so spread in media about when the Greatness of America in
terms of technological, educational, scientific and social progress began or ended or if it still last as it was before.
There are 3 thesis clearly confronted in such a discussion:
1) The one that sustains that America was Great in the past but it was no longer in the same situation at least when the present administration began,
we can call it the Republican Antiestablishment one.
2) The one that supports that it has been equally great at the same level continuously since long time ago, something that was brought to discussion
in the funeral of Senator John McCain, by his daughter, we can call it the traditional Republican establishment one.
3) Another one that sustains that America experience a huge slope downward in its greatness during the great recession and it started to recover its
position in the previous administration, we can call it the Democratic average one.
What the substance of the thread is trying to underline, the situation of relative lack of equal opportunities for minorities that jump out of the
page when we meditate in the flight of Arnaldo Tamayo of 1980, is that possibly none of those look like hypothesis is actually correct, or completely
true, all of them are just partial explanations that try to ignore the whole equation that they try to describe.
It seems that the civil rights fight for protection of minorities in America was not solely moving ahead propelled by internal momentum, it was
instead highly favored by the competition against external powers that were trying to move forward also, in their own particular way, to achieve some
changes in openness about similar social aspects too.
What the actual facts, not the political rhetoric, are showing it is more that America, as other great nations in the History, has gradually unfolded
periods of relatively interesting progress and increasing greatness forced by the competition against other political regimes or economic systems that
also have been forced to improve by the American Competition.
In other words civilization unfolds everywhere pushed and boosted not just under internal ideal conditions but also by international competition so it
is not the byproduct of a particular system.
Other interesting Statistics to support the claims of the opening post:
- The first Jewish ancestry person in the Space was the Russian cosmonaut Boris Volynov, in the Soyuz 5 by 1969, one of those first manned Soviet
spacecrafts designed originally to try to reach the moon.
Cosmonaut Boris Volynov, first Jewish in Space
It took 17 years more until 1986 for America to sent to the space the first Jewish American, Astronaut Judith Resnik, who unfortunately died in the
tragic accident of the Challenger.
List of Jewish American Astronauts
- The first Asian in Space was the Vietnamese Phan Tuam also in the same year of Tamayo flight, in July of 1980, in the Soyuz 37 the preceding mission
of that space program.
Cosmonaut Phan Tuam, first Asian in Space
The first Asian Sent to the space by America was the Japanese American Ellison Onizuka, about 6 years later, another victim of the tragedy of the
Challenger by the way.
Astronaut Ellison Onizuka
The first Muslim in space was the cosmonaut Musa Manarov, that traveled in 1978 in the Soyuz TM4 to the Mir Space Station.
Musa Manarov, first Muslim in space
The first muslim to be sent by Nasa to the Space was Sultan bin Salman Al Saud, by the way not American but a Saudi of royal blood in June of 1985
during the space Shuttle era.
List of Muslim Astronauts
All my deep respect to the Native,Hispanic, Jewish, African, Asian, Muslim Americans that have waited so much with admirable patience to see them
advancing toward the opportunities science and technology can provide, and of course for the millions of intelligent girls and women that were
possibly identifying themselves with motivating characters of fiction accounts like in Star Trek by Lieutenant Uhura, but in reality were not
represented during the first quarter of century at all on the adventure to reach and conquer the last frontier: The Space.
The Angel of Lightness
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