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Nuclear Powerplant run by Duke Energy declares state of emergency

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posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 01:47 PM
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Wow! Is this overblown. There ARE people at the plant watching over the reactors, which were place in standby because of the hurricane. They are using helicopters to fly in food and other necessary supplies. They declared the warning because floodwaters have blocked all roads to the plant except one. They are following the safety regulations which REQUIRE them to declare this state.




posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 01:50 PM
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If it was that serious they could fly them in by helo or something.



posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 01:50 PM
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Nevermind, positive thoughts.
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posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 01:51 PM
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Barring a rogue tidal wave I think we'll be okay.



posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 01:51 PM
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originally posted by: JIMC5499
Wow! Is this overblown. There ARE people at the plant watching over the reactors, which were place in standby because of the hurricane. They are using helicopters to fly in food and other necessary supplies. They declared the warning because floodwaters have blocked all roads to the plant except one. They are following the safety regulations which REQUIRE them to declare this state.

thanks for the rational run-down!

Hopefully they don't get hit with a double whammy, where something unexpected goes wrong while the access is impaired.

That happened to us at work last year - something totally unrelated went wrong during a hurricane and totally screwed the pooch for us.



posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 01:55 PM
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I don't think most saw it as doom porn mode. Mainly keeping an eye open for that occasional cascade of doom.

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See lordcomac above
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posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 02:05 PM
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I wouldn't worry yet. 10 CFR 50.72 is just a code that says if there is any kind of potential problem, or if the condition is unknown for any reason, you have to let the governing body (NRC) know as soon as possible. Its just a heads up procedure that does in itself not indicate any specific or real problem exists.

If there is no scram and no leak its all just business per regulation.



posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 02:08 PM
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originally posted by: ausername
It's the same old design as fukushima.


I see nothing that indicates it used the same design aside from being a Boiling Water Reactor.

The report also indicates that the control rods have descended and the system is not operating at a critical or super-critical level which simply means no extra neutrons are being produced as part of a chain reaction due to the control rods absorbing the extra neutrons.

The system has also enabled the cooldown procedure so at this point the big concern with a BWR is a LOCA or loss of containment accident whereby the radioactive byproducts in the single loop system get released into the flood waters and contaminate the surrounding areas.



posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 02:14 PM
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a reply to: wtfatta

Fast neutron to thermal neutron conversion requires a moderator of sufficient density to enable the change. Mutation of non-fissionable mass to fissionable takes time and a significant supply of thermal neutrons. Alter any of the required conditions and runaway fission is not possible. As such, the only real potential is an accidental leak of either gas or liquid above acceptable levels. (as it stands now anyway...)
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posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 02:25 PM
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a reply to: OneArmedBandit

Sanford Dam breaches in Boiling Spring Lakes, water draining at fast rate
abc11.com...



posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 02:30 PM
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originally posted by: JIMC5499
Wow! Is this overblown. There ARE people at the plant watching over the reactors, which were place in standby because of the hurricane. They are using helicopters to fly in food and other necessary supplies. They declared the warning because floodwaters have blocked all roads to the plant except one. They are following the safety regulations which REQUIRE them to declare this state.


Thanks, I found a few articles stating those's facts.

www.newsobserver.com...



posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 02:33 PM
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Not a big deal crews will be rotated by chopper. In the e plan I'm sure

Just a matter of getting crews together probably




posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 02:38 PM
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originally posted by: Vroomfondel
a reply to: wtfatta

Fast neutron to thermal neutron conversion requires a moderator of sufficient density to enable the change. Mutation of non-fissionable mass to fissionable takes time and a significant supply of thermal neutrons. Alter any of the required conditions and runaway fission is not possible.


You're not wrong when you say the same thing I said but in a different way lol


originally posted by: Vroomfondel
a reply to: wtfatta

As such, the only real potential is an accidental leak of either gas or liquid above acceptable levels. (as it stands now anyway...)


Again, you've said the same thing. That's a LOCA or Loss Of Contaiment Accident.

I'm not sure what you were adding to this. Or were you attempting to say I was mistaken by saying the same things i said in a different way?



posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 02:41 PM
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a reply to: wtfatta

Everybody's an expert online, and of course nuclear power plant engineers too.




posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 02:55 PM
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a reply to: OneArmedBandit

No because this plant was already shut down..
No nuclear meltdown..
Fukushima had the fuel still active.
Then massive explosions ripped open the containment and the spent rod storage on plant 4 was it?

None of that applies.
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posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 02:58 PM
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a reply to: ausername

I'm a Radiation Safety Officer. I can't speak for anyone else.



posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 03:20 PM
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originally posted by: wtfatta

originally posted by: ausername
It's the same old design as fukushima.


I see nothing that indicates it used the same design aside from being a Boiling Water Reactor.





Brunswick BWR-4

Fukishima BWR-3

You being in the industry, whats the difference?

Both are dated designs that are not failsafe in the event of a total loss of power.



posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 03:31 PM
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a reply to: wtfatta

Not saying you were wrong, just adding a bit. Not a lot of people know that the non-fissionable part of a fuel rod, about 98% of it by mass when new, can be mutated in to fissionable mass by thermal neutrons released during fission as fast neutrons. In a perfect world you could prime a reactor with fissionable mass, then feed it spent fuel rods from other plants to maintain fission creating energy from the waste of older style reactors.



posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 03:37 PM
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originally posted by: ausername
a reply to: wtfatta

Everybody's an expert online, and of course nuclear power plant engineers too.



I am not a nuclear engineer. Although I did work in the Nuclear Engineering Department in R&D. I designed high performance high pressure containment/isolation vessels. It required at least a rudimentary understanding of the facilities we serviced. Not everyone depends on what they can find in google as their core of knowledge.
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posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 03:50 PM
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Touche lol. I'm sorry I didn't catch that.





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