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Beto wants to take away GUNS and open up the BORDER!

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posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 09:50 AM
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posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 09:57 AM
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originally posted by: joemoe
Democrats = Communists .... nothing more nothing less!

Pulled that one outta yer arse, now, didn't you? You might want to study up on political movements.



posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 10:13 AM
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a reply to: CraftyArrow

The logic never amazes me.

No border.
Amnesty for all.
Give anyone who comes in free stuff.
Take away your guns.
No ID for voting.

Why even bother having a country??



posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 10:38 AM
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originally posted by: joemoe
Democrats = Communists .... nothing more nothing less!


OK, I'll play.

Republicans = fascist.



posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 10:44 AM
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originally posted by: Teikiatsu

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes
a reply to: Grimpachi

Well something isn't adding up here.

Texas: 434.4 per 100000.

Illinois: 436.3 per 100000 citizens.

The figures suggest that gun laws don't achieve sh!t.


Did your source detail localities? I'd be willing to bet the majority of those crimes/deaths comes from the Democrat-run cities (both states) with stricter gun laws.


The highest deaths come from middle-aged rural white males who kill themselves with firearms.

Suicide. They are sad about something.



posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 10:44 AM
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originally posted by: Admitted
The article says Beto didn't receive a rating, not an F.

Anyway, I can't imagine those 90% of Texan hunters with AR-15's are especially worried about Beto coming around and taking their guns.

No one is taking anyone's guns, not in Texas or anywhere in America.

It's not about taking them, it's about banning them in the future.

But both should be deemed unconstitutional, but even if not, Beto is a complete moron when it comes to knowledge of AR15s, where he claims that they were designed for the military and made to kill as many people as possible.

He's an idiot.



posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 10:47 AM
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a reply to: SlapMonkey




he claims that they were designed for the military and made to kill as many people as possible.


Yeah, they were. I own one.



posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 10:50 AM
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originally posted by: Grimpachi

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes
a reply to: CraftyArrow

Interesting. I wonder what the gun crime rate is in Texas compared to somewhere like say Illinois with all of their gun restrictions...


Depends on the city. When I was at Fort Hood it was pretty bad.

There were drivebys on base in front of our barracks. Maybe it is better now, but I doubt it.

As far as the election they have to choose one of the two turds running. It is a lose-lose no matter what they do just like the last election.
Other then high profile shootings, Fort Hood was pretty tamed when I was there back in 2010. 2BDE Black Jack 😉



posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 11:42 AM
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originally posted by: JasonBillung
The highest deaths come from middle-aged rural white males who kill themselves with firearms.

Suicide. They are sad about something.

Probably sad that you didn't backup this claim with a link to facts.



posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 11:45 AM
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originally posted by: SlapMonkey

Beto is a complete moron when it comes to knowledge of AR15s, where he claims that they were designed for the military and made to kill as many people as possible.

He's an idiot.


Beto words;

“There is no reason an AR-15, a weapon of war designed for the sole purpose of taking lives as effectively and as efficiently and [in] as great a number as possible should be sold to civilians to be used in our schools, in our churches, in our concerts, in public life in this country,”

“I have no idea how that polls, and I could give a s*** what the NRA thinks about it because it’s the right thing to do,” he added.

"I could give a s*** what the NRA thinks."



Beto is a complete far-left idiot!


edit on 17-9-2018 by CraftyArrow because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 11:49 AM
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a reply to: JasonBillung

No, they weren't. I own one, too.

Did you come to this conclusion via an act of congress as well?

Here, I'll give you the short, short version: Armalite Rifles creates the AR15 in 1957; rifle designed and used as a sporting rifle; military likes design and adapts it to military use under the nomenclature M16-A1, then later the -A2; sporting rifle AR15 continues to exist as designed for civilian sporting use.

The AR15 is not the same firearm as the M16-A1 or -A2, nor the M4-A1 that is currently used in the military.

Anyone who says that is ignorant, even if you own one.

Especially if you own one and still make the claim.



posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 11:50 AM
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originally posted by: SlapMonkey

originally posted by: JasonBillung
The highest deaths come from middle-aged rural white males who kill themselves with firearms.

Suicide. They are sad about something.

Probably sad that you didn't backup this claim with a link to facts.



Gun-related suicides and homicides in the United States, 1999-2016[1] Gun-related homicide and suicide rates in high-income OECD countries, 2010, countries in graph ordered by total death rates (homicide plus suicide plus other gun-related deaths).[2] Gun violence in the United States results in tens of thousands of deaths and injuries annually.[3] In 2013, there were 73,505 nonfatal firearm injuries (23.2 injuries per 100,000 persons),[4][5] and 33,636 deaths due to "injury by firearms" (10.6 deaths per 100,000 persons).[6] These deaths consisted of 11,208 homicides,[7] 21,175 suicides,[6] 505 deaths due to accidental or negligent discharge of a firearm, and 281 deaths due to firearms use with "undetermined intent".[6] The ownership and control of guns are among the most widely debated issues in the country.


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Data from the National Vital Statistics System, Mortality From 1999 through 2014, the age-adjusted suicide rate in the United States increased 24%, from 10.5 to 13.0 per 100,000 population, with the pace of increase greater after 2006. Suicide rates increased from 1999 through 2014 for both males and females and for all ages 10–74. The percent increase in suicide rates for females was greatest for those aged 10–14, and for males, those aged 45–64. The most frequent suicide method in 2014 for males involved the use of firearms (55.4%), while poisoning was the most frequent method for females (34.1%). Percentages of suicides attributable to suffocation incrCDC eased for both sexes between 1999 and 2014. Suicide is an important public health issue involving psychological, biological, and societal factors (1,2). After a period of nearly consistent decline in suicide rates in the United States from 1986 through 1999 (3), suicide rates have increased almost steadily from 1999 through 2014. While suicide among adolescents and young adults is increasing and among the leading causes of death for those demographic groups (4), suicide among middle-aged adults is also rising (5). This report presents an overview of suicide mortality in the United States from 1999 through 2014. Suicide rates in 1999 are compared with 2014 for both females and males across age groups, and percentages are compared by method (firearms, poisoning, suffocation, and other means).


CDC
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posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 11:50 AM
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Actually no …. What Fascist country do Republican want to imitate? None. Plus Nazism, Fascism and Socialism are all a Leftist thing … they are all offshoot of Marxism and Communist Ideology.



posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 11:53 AM
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a reply to: SlapMonkey

The AR acts like an AR. I used them in the military. BTW, we only used full auto for suppressive fire. $ seconds and 30 rounds gone. Real infantry used semi. And later the burst mode.

An AR-15 can pretty much do what the 16, or m-4 can do.



posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 11:55 AM
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originally posted by: joemoe
a reply to: JasonBillung


Actually no …. What Fascist country do Republican want to imitate? None. Plus Nazism, Fascism and Socialism are all a Leftist thing … they are all offshoot of Marxism and Communist Ideology.




Still telling that fib?



posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 12:09 PM
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originally posted by: joemoe
a reply to: JasonBillung
Actually no …. What Fascist country do Republican want to imitate? None. Plus Nazism, Fascism and Socialism are all a Leftist thing … they are all offshoot of Marxism and Communist Ideology.

Would you mind my asking your nationality, so that we might get additional context for your statement?



posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 12:12 PM
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originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck

originally posted by: joemoe
a reply to: JasonBillung
Actually no …. What Fascist country do Republican want to imitate? None. Plus Nazism, Fascism and Socialism are all a Leftist thing … they are all offshoot of Marxism and Communist Ideology.

Would you mind my asking your nationality, so that we might get additional context for your statement?

Me don’t thinks he’s a fellow canuckistanian sadly. Welll I’m a lumberjack.....great now I’m gonna be stuck watching MP clips on YT all day.



posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 12:19 PM
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Nearly three of four gun deaths in Wisconsin are suicides, many among rural, white men ages 45 and older, a new study says. The state’s proportion of firearm deaths that are suicides — 72 percent — is higher than the national average of 60 percent, according to the study by UW-Madison researchers in the Wisconsin Medical Journal.



The gun suicide rate was highest among men, whites, people age 45 and older and residents in the northern part of the state, which is the most rural of five regions. The rate was lowest in the southeastern region, the most urban. Suicides among older rural white men could stem from a shortage of mental health services in small towns, and reflect social isolation and displeasure about economic or social conditions, Frey said.


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Of every three deaths involving guns, only one is a homicide—the other two are suicides. And according to new research from the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, in rural areas of Maryland, suicide rates are 35 percent higher than in urban settings—a disparity that can be attributed to greater use of firearms in rural settings. In a new study published online today in the American Journal of Public Health, study leader Paul Sasha Nestadt, a post-doctoral fellow in the Bloomberg School's Psychiatric Epidemiology Training Program, suggests that more robust rural firearm safety and control initiatives could help policymakers who are grappling with rising suicide rates, which rose to 13.3 deaths per 100,000 people in 2015, the highest rate in 30 years. "The reason that rural suicide rates are higher is because people in these areas are killing themselves with guns," Nestadt says. "The media focuses on homicides committed with guns, but only one in three deaths by firearm are homicides. The other two are suicides. Most of the other leading causes of death are going down. Suicides are going up—and firearms are a big reason why."


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posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 12:49 PM
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originally posted by: Jefferton
You guys are hilarious.

I absolutely love it.




Keep laughing. It's not a funny subject and it never will be.
edit on 17-9-2018 by Wide-Eyes because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 12:55 PM
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originally posted by: LordAhriman

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes

Well something isn't adding up here.

Texas: 434.4 per 100000.

Illinois: 436.3 per 100000 citizens.

The figures suggest that gun laws don't achieve sh!t.


It is legal to own a gun in the entire state of Illinois.


I'm talking about the restrictions which are restricting the murder rate. S/




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