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Facts are facts Obama's birth certificate is FAKE

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posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 08:45 AM
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originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: Bloodworth

What kind of amazing BS are your spouting now, what picture are you talking about, this may come as a shock to you but I have not actually see every picture ever taken of Obama.


I know this topic is very sensitive.

I asked if there were any pics of Obama's during his early education years....
A member sent a link of a bunch of Obama pictures.
In one picture Obama is standing next to a girl.
He is wearing a leather jacket and holding something.
His head?




posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 08:48 AM
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originally posted by: Gemwolf
Again, I'm left completely dumbfounded that Trump supporters (or rather anti-Obama folk) believe something that's nothing but an unproven theory to be an absolute fact (including the ramblings of Alex Jones that Barry is gay and Michelle is a transvestite)...
Yet, refuse to pay attention to the fact that the current president averaged 7.6 mistruths and false or misleading claims (read: lies) as on 1 August 2018 (Source), has behaved immorally more times than I care to count (see for example: paying hush-money to porn stars) and have to date not released his tax returns as promised. Just to name 3 of the countless issues regarding Trump's presidency.
I'm not even going to address the fact that Robert Mueller’s team has now indicted or gotten guilty pleas from 32 people and three companies during his investigation, because you know, it's just "a witch-hunt".

No, let's cling to the idea (or let's say "fact") that Obama's birth certificate is fake and he was born in Kenya. Why not focus on someone that has left the house instead of paying attention to the in-your-face problems with Trump? Much easier to defend and speculate on theories than actual facts, isn't it?
Oh, I forgot. Alternative truths, fake news and "the truth isn't truth".
Imagine having to defend someone and you are left with that as the only defense...


But Trump....



posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 09:02 AM
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originally posted by: notsure1

But Trump....


Yep. "But Trump". Republicans lost any and all high-ground on most topics the moment they put the Great Orange Leader in the White House. They've lowered the bar to a mindbogglingly low level and keep lowering it by the continued defense of his reality removed actions. If they want to point a finger, they'll have to accept that double standards and hypocrisy will be pointed out as long as they defend him. Trump is currently president, so he's much more relevant than Barry that had his time to receive criticism.

And I'll raise you a buttery males.



posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 09:04 AM
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a reply to: Bloodworth




In one picture Obama is standing next to a girl. He is wearing a leather jacket and holding something. His head?


Holding his head???

I don’t know what you think this has to do with his place of birth....

To my fellow member I am sorry for feeding the troll



posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 09:04 AM
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originally posted by: Gemwolf

originally posted by: notsure1

But Trump....


Yep. "But Trump". Republicans lost any and all high-ground on most topics the moment they put the Great Orange Leader in the White House. They've lowered the bar to a mindbogglingly low level and keep lowering it by the continued defense of his reality removed actions. If they want to point a finger, they'll have to accept that double standards and hypocrisy will be pointed out as long as they defend him. Trump is currently president, so he's much more relevant than Barry that had his time to receive criticism.

And I'll raise you a buttery males.


But this thread is about Obama and his BC. so you are way off topic.

But since you are a lib and a super mod you get to make the rules up as you go..



posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 09:04 AM
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For those who can only see racism, please think again.... And understand it says more about yourself than anyone else.

For starters, McCain's eligibility was challenged as well. In court. So was the eligibility of George Romney. And others. It is very likely racism for some... But uts just plain politics for most.

Further, there is at least one published source claiming Obama was born in Kenya --

Obama’s Literary Agent Said He Was Born in Kenya?

A 1991 literary promotional booklet identified Barack Obama as having been born in Kenya.

Snopes

And sooooo much more. I have no idea what the whole truth is, and I'm pretty damn sure no one here does either. I also know insulting others to defend one's own dubious position is intellectually lazy at best.

I can very easily make a case for the legitimacy of Obama's presidency regardless of his legal and Constitutional eligibility: the people were fully aware that his father was never a citizen, and voted him into office anyway. This is in full accordance with our right to judge the laws as well as the person charged.

And I didn't have to insult or call anyone names.



posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 09:07 AM
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Fired him? not a true statement...The illegal alien and pro-dug lobby got involved. The only person I ever personally talked to that had an issue with Joe Arpaio was one of his security team who preferred to work the street.
The people who did not like Joe Arpaio were drug dealers, illegal aliens and those who profit from the illegal activities.
Kind of like President Trump and his detractors. Who doesn't like him: career benefits (welfare), anti-Americans (including ANTIFA), illegal aliens, drug supporters, career criminals and anti-constitutionalists.
I live 12 miles from the border. We see illegals every day. Doctors and 'mid-wives' signing fake birth certificates for 'anchor baby' families. Corruption at every level, every illegal wants to get across their entire family.
If they are such good people and work hard, why don't the work hard to bring their own country. No they want to come to America and try to make it a copy of their #-hole country. And the same can be said about the Californians who are flooding Arizona...they don't like their state, but want to come here and bring bad politics!
No we need more Joe Arpaios'...



posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 09:10 AM
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originally posted by: notsure1

But this thread is about Obama and his BC. so you are way off topic.

But since you are a lib and a super mod you get to make the rules up as you go..


If you feel that my post was off-topic, please feel free to report it. I posted as a member and are subject to the same rules.
I stand by my point: Double standards. Cognitive dissonance.
edit on 17/9/2018 by Gemwolf because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 09:10 AM
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a reply to: Boadicea




For those who can only see racism, please think again.... And understand it says more about yourself than anyone else.


Well actually sorry but not its not.

Funny how whenever you call someone out as being racist there is always someone ready with the school yard "I know you are but what am I" retort as if that diminishes the argument in anyway. I personally see the whole Birther conspiracy as being a conspiracy born out of racism. Like I say I am not saying that everyone who buys into it actually racist themselves although I do think many are, rather it is the conspiracy itself that is the spawn of a racists view. I have explain this in detail in pervious posts.

Now that does not make me racist because I am saying I believe others are racist no matter how much you want to use the "I know you are but what I am I" defence. It is my opinion that many of these individuals behind the birther conspiracy harbour a racist view of having had a black president.

That opinion does not make me a racist, unless you have some other definition of racism that you are using?
edit on 17-9-2018 by OtherSideOfTheCoin because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 09:13 AM
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This 10 years later? What? Didn't Hillary say something stupid this week?



posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 09:16 AM
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a reply to: Boadicea

It doesn't matter where Obama was born (he was born in Hawaii despite what someone who isn't Obama says about him). His mother is American. That makes him American. Why is this so hard for people to understand?
Acquisition of U.S. Citizenship by a Child Born Abroad



posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 09:16 AM
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originally posted by: intrepid
This 10 years later? What? Didn't Hillary say something stupid this week?


I think they are having a tough week to be fair.... I mean you know, all of Trumps old buddies turning against him and all that.

Need to distract and deflect form the real problems in their own house so lets revisit some old debunked theory and pretend its CONFIRMED....FACT...OBAMA...KENYAN!!!




posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 09:18 AM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Hey now! Arpaio gave yet another speech where he goes over the same evidence he always does just reworded to sound new. PROOF!



posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 09:18 AM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Boadicea

It doesn't matter where Obama was born (he was born in Hawaii despite what someone who isn't Obama says about him). His mother is American. That makes him American. Why is this so hard for people to understand?
Acquisition of U.S. Citizenship by a Child Born Abroad


Because basic civics does not fit in with their agenda.....

Honestly thats the answer, I believe that most of these people (ok some exceptions) are pretty smart and know that he would qualify through in mother anyway.

But like I said, there is a agenda, if the facts don't fit they will make them fit, if they can't make them fit, meh just ignore them, just keep pushing that agenda.



posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 09:27 AM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

The conspiracy may have roots in racism (especially when Joe Arpaio is concerned), but to me people who spread this conspiracy are more just irrational Obama haters than racists. I'm sure racism is a motivator for more than a few people believing this conspiracy, but mostly all I see, are partisans being irrationally partisan.



posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 09:31 AM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

The conspiracy may have roots in racism (especially when Joe Arpaio is concerned), but to me people who spread this conspiracy are more just irrational Obama haters than racists. I'm sure racism is a motivator for more than a few people believing this conspiracy, but mostly all I see, are partisans being irrationally partisan.


Fair enough, I am not going to say you are wrong.

I agree that lots are just hating for partisan reasons but I also think that quite a few have a racial motivation, particularly those who really started this birther movement and its leaders.

I guess we just kind of balance the two up a bit differently.

I don think everyone who identifies as a birther is racist to be totally clear.



posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 09:35 AM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

I don think everyone who identifies as a birther is racist to be totally clear.


I understand. I'm sure you know me and know that I'm not the type to jump to conclusions like that.


Joe Arpaio is definitely a racist and his motivations are definitely involving racial resentment. I will agree there.



posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 09:37 AM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Um... You pretty much make my point. I didn't say it made you racist... YOU went there. AGAIN. That's what YOU know and therefore see.

I did say it's intellectually lazy (at best).

My thought processes obviously operate on a much different level than yours. And no, I'm not saying"better". Just different. Neither of us is perfect.



posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 09:38 AM
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a reply to: Boadicea




My thought processes obviously operate on a much different level than yours.


Yeah I think you could be correct, if I ever have a stroke I will let you know then perhaps you might make a bit more sense to me.

edit on 17-9-2018 by OtherSideOfTheCoin because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 17 2018 @ 09:48 AM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

So you were there? You personally witnessed Obama's birth in Hawaii? Um... Yeah.... I didn't think so. You only know what we've been told.

We both know that were not just talking about simple "citizenship", but natural born citizenship; and that "natural born citizen" as required for constitutional eligibility has never been legally defined... Its a moving target.

It also seems to me that the father who is not American has some rights here too.... Or are we so arrogant that we would deny paternal rights and the child's citizenship rights via the father?




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