It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.

 

Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.

 

Trump Couldn’t Get Mexico To Pay For His Wall. Now Americans Won’t Pay Either.

page: 4
14
<< 1  2  3    5 >>

log in

join
share:

posted on Sep, 16 2018 @ 09:38 AM
link   
a reply to: Southern Guardian

I'm not a trumpet, or cult45 mentalist, but I am for stronger borders and protection.
when immigration legal or illegal has affected one personally, there's no ambiguity in supporting what's right, and not whom.

instead of pointing out the failures of trump's attempt at border security, why not speak on how it could have been better. because like most of trump's ideas, they are with the right intentions, but the execution of those ideas are similar to a numbskull. you doubt the walls effectiveness, but no proposals or insights on how it could be effective.

living in socal I can say that the level of criminal activity is such that its beyond race or ethnicity. 50 miles north or south of that border is a free for all in all types of crimes and the people who participate in these crimes are just as diverse as those crimes range.

the problem here isn't that trump failed, the problem is some are glad he failed in this regard.
while some of certain political persuasions are glad his border security plans are crumbling, today, 16 September, hundreds are mourning because of a lack of security north and south of that border.


criminals are criminals and don't care for race or politics; crime is their only prerogative . why wouldn't the u.s. or Mexico want to thwart some of those crimes? politics that's why.

forget that trump may not get funding for the wall, it was a bad idea to begin with...at least it was an idea; vice the alternative, no ideas at all.
it doesn't make any sense that the United states can lead the world in science, economic development, space travel, etc , yet immigration is still kicking our collective butts and creating a schism which we cant seem to undo.

I disagree with the OP, not because its wrong in that trump may not get the mental funding he wants for the wall even with a GOP in control, but the intention of the op is just as misguided as trump's plan. no one benefits.... from a piss poor plan or wagging the finger at a piss poor plan.




posted on Sep, 16 2018 @ 09:58 AM
link   
So which would you rather, a wall or picket line of armed militia on the southern border?

As for campaign promises, Obama delivered on “Hope and Change” The country hoped there would not be anymore negative changes, thus elected Trump. Kinda like how Batman causes his own villains to come about by his vigilante actions. So too Obama caused Trump.



posted on Sep, 16 2018 @ 10:04 AM
link   
a reply to: Southern Guardian


The cheap labor express aka the swamp do not want a wall on the southern border and they always get what they want since they pretty much own Washington DC.



posted on Sep, 16 2018 @ 10:18 AM
link   
No one is going to take you seriously after you openly and continuously doubled down on that Nikki Haley lie.



posted on Sep, 16 2018 @ 10:19 AM
link   

originally posted by: Ahabstar
So which would you rather, a wall or picket line of armed militia on the southern border?

As for campaign promises, Obama delivered on “Hope and Change” The country hoped there would not be anymore negative changes, thus elected Trump. Kinda like how Batman causes his own villains to come about by his vigilante actions. So too Obama caused Trump.


Obamas Hope and Change was the result of Globalist Neocon Policies and their wars prior to him but Obama carried on the same policies.
So now we have Trump and another slogan for the sheep, make America Great Again.
And again, he is carrying on the same Neocon policies by loading up the biggest terrorist state up with weapons, Saudi Arabia, and we still have bases in almost every country in the world. Nothing has changed.

It is comical to watch the partisan hacks though saying it will different this time though.
It reminds me of Lucy pulling out the football just when Charlie Brown is about to kick it.



posted on Sep, 16 2018 @ 10:31 AM
link   

originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: Southern Guardian
a reply to: Wide-Eyes


Nope. I answered your question,



Moving on.

Finally...
You owe me an answer to a question, per your own words, so my question is -

Why couldn't you man up on your last thread and say you made a bogus hit piece? The source you used retracted the story you used, but you went CNN and doubled down on the dumb. Why? Why couldn't you just admit you were wrong?



Ummm...I too notice how he promised you an answer...yet has studiously ignored not only giving you the answer he promised to give...he's ignored you completely after having placed his honor on giving you an answer...and then scuttled away in avoidance...

Quite telling to watch an avowed leftists lack of honor...

Humorous even...





YouSir



posted on Sep, 16 2018 @ 10:52 AM
link   
Trump Wall IS BEING BUILT along the most desolate stretches first. SMART MOVE!

apnews.com...




posted on Sep, 16 2018 @ 11:59 AM
link   
a reply to: Southern Guardian

Dude, you reached the end of the road with your "curtains" post. Your credibility is shot to hell - can't believe you're still here.



posted on Sep, 16 2018 @ 12:12 PM
link   
Mainly a lurker, but funny as hell how someone so outspoken, and so quick to jump on folks remains SILENT on all the replies regarding the Nikki Haley BS post. Cmon there Guardian MAN UP. Not sure exactly what your handle means either, because I'm southern, and you DAMN sure ain't no guardian. LMAO!!!!!
edit on 9.16.2018 by SituationNAFU because: to avoid TOS violations lol



posted on Sep, 16 2018 @ 12:18 PM
link   

originally posted by: carewemust
Trump Wall IS BEING BUILT along the most desolate stretches first. SMART MOVE!

apnews.com...



Replacing 20 miles of existing wall



posted on Sep, 16 2018 @ 01:15 PM
link   
Mexico paid with the new trade agreements.

"they got smoked"



posted on Sep, 16 2018 @ 01:50 PM
link   
I want a refund for reading this stupid op.

Another maybe I will feel better if others feel bad post.

How fn original, another ante wannabe.



posted on Sep, 16 2018 @ 01:59 PM
link   
Awfully personal up in here. That is usually a sign for things to come.

If i wanted a wall and needed to pay for it i would just charge a toll at the border for a while or just bill the dreamers and such.



posted on Sep, 16 2018 @ 02:07 PM
link   

originally posted by: Southern Guardian
a reply to: carewemust


An ADDITIONAL $5 Billion is scheduled for wall construction after November.


No Care, it's not. If it was, you wouldn't have to resort to a partisan hack of a source like the Washington Examiner.

That wall won't be funded, and you won't care. This isn't your motivation for supporting him.


You were wrong about curtains, you've been wrong in many of your other threads, so I gonna safely assume you will be wrong here as well.



posted on Sep, 16 2018 @ 02:53 PM
link   
I love how people have to dishonestly insinuate that anyone thought Mexico was going to hand us a check with 'For the wall' in the memo block. During the campaign, Trump made it clear on many occasions that "Mexico will pay for the wall" meant some kind of indirect action, like reducing our trade deficit, which has actually been done.

That doesn't necessarily mean the wall is gonna be built. Congress is dragging its feet on that, even though even the Democrats voted for border barriers in the past. That said, the people telling you "the wall will never get built" are the same ones who told you Trump would never be President...



posted on Sep, 16 2018 @ 03:28 PM
link   
a reply to: Southern Guardian

I see curtain gate hasn't slowed you down...

Now you are directing people to links which try and market you all manor of crap after signing an oath?

You all are now worse than a cult...
You're part of a pyramid scheme!

Driven by a desire to dethrone a democratically elected president no less.

No one will take you seriously until you actually propose a solution to the current outrage porn bouncing around inside your head.

Currently there is no way to accommodate these waves of unskilled uneducated people with vast cultural differences banging down our doors. Our only solution is to give them a path to assimilation while helping build up their nations of origin so they have no desire to leave their homeland.

Which you apparently don't understand takes time... Every liberal I debate wants immediate results ala Obamacare.

Unless you and all your Facebook sjw's would like to house and feed a few million people that'd be great.

edit on 16-9-2018 by JAY1980 because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 16 2018 @ 03:40 PM
link   
a reply to: Southern Guardian

" Trump Couldn’t Get Mexico To Pay For His Wall. Now Americans Won’t Pay Either."


This has NOT been Settled Yet . Your Thread here is irrelevant .



posted on Sep, 16 2018 @ 03:42 PM
link   
a reply to: Vector99

Thank you for your answer Vector.


Why couldn't you man up on your last thread


Man up for what?

To answer your question, there was no need for me to man up. As far as I'm concerned, Nikki Hailey and co went ahead with the curtains, no issue. It's been 18 months since the Obama administration. The claim their 'decisions' are final, 18 months on, is well poor nonsense. We already saw this excuse with Ben Carson after which he cancelled the dining room set.

You and others here need to learn to stop blaming Obama for the choices made under this administration, plain and simple Vector. Apologies for taking a while to get back to ya.

Here's a Bud.





posted on Sep, 16 2018 @ 04:46 PM
link   

originally posted by: Southern Guardian
a reply to: Vector99

Thank you for your answer Vector.


Why couldn't you man up on your last thread


Man up for what?

To answer your question, there was no need for me to man up. As far as I'm concerned, Nikki Hailey and co went ahead with the curtains, no issue. It's been 18 months since the Obama administration. The claim their 'decisions' are final, 18 months on, is well poor nonsense. We already saw this excuse with Ben Carson after which he cancelled the dining room set.

You and others here need to learn to stop blaming Obama for the choices made under this administration, plain and simple Vector. Apologies for taking a while to get back to ya.

Here's a Bud.




Just so I’m clear. $53k in curtains the Obama Admin ordered are the Trump administrations responsibility, but the economy that the Trump admin got humming over the last two years is Obamas doing? Lol. You folks on the left never cease to amaze me with your Ferengi logic..



posted on Sep, 16 2018 @ 05:24 PM
link   
a reply to: jacobe001

Bill Clinton, who signed NAFTA and WTO, was a neocon? Obama, who worked towards TPP, was a neocon? Or is neo-conservative a fluid term now?



new topics

top topics



 
14
<< 1  2  3    5 >>

log in

join