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Trump Couldn’t Get Mexico To Pay For His Wall. Now Americans Won’t Pay Either.

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posted on Sep, 16 2018 @ 04:57 AM
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a reply to: Southern Guardian

He already knew they weren’t going to pay for the wall, and has had a plan B since the beginning. He said he would impose remittance taxes if Mexico didn’t pay a one time fee for the wall, eand has been working since election to do just that.

www.politifact.com...

I’m not sure banking on steadily failed predictions half way through a presidency is such a good idea. You risk the anxiety that comes with always being wrong.
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posted on Sep, 16 2018 @ 05:04 AM
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a reply to: NiNjABackflip

But many, many "liberals" prey that Trump fails, spectacularly, on the global stage. Even if it humiliates US all. Even if it means our own peril. Their only anxiety is in having to wait so long for it to actually happen.


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posted on Sep, 16 2018 @ 05:08 AM
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originally posted by: Southern Guardian
a reply to: Martin75

I actually commend this. If private citizens want to help fund it through a private pool, fantastic. I think it's a waste, the wall has been proven to be ineffective to penetration, especially considering the bulk of illegals come in legally but hey, it's not Mexico's choice.

Wonder if Trump supporters are motivated enough to chip in enough....


THIS is the problem.

"most illegals come in legally". What? Then how can they be considered "illegal" if they came in "legally"?

Mister. Or misses. "illegal" does NOT mean Mexican or South American. It literally means ANYONE of ANY NATION and ANY RACE that enters the country without following proper procedure. Example: sneaking across the border.

You know, by NOT applying for entry. THAT is what makes someone 'illegal'. If I, a white person, flew to Mongolia and then simply walked across the birder into China and started living there, working, renting etc, that would make ME an 'illegal immigrant'. If I applied to live there first and went there 'legally', that would me an 'immigrant'.

The President and his supporters do NOT want to stop immigration from Mexico or South America. They WANT people to immigrate into the US, that's kind of how the country was made so great in the first place. The President SUPPORTS immigration. He WANTS people to immigrate here LEGALLY. He has NEVER said otherwise regardless what CNN has told you. Turn it off.

I am astounded that after the 400 million times I've personally seen this concept explained to the left there is still people who do not undertand that water and oil are not relatable in any way shape or form.

If ANYONE 'came in legally' then by very definition they can NOT be considered an 'illegal'. Full stop. (Unless they overstay and stop the process further down the track, you know, like in EVERY SINGLE country on Earth)

The ONLY racists who think that 'illegal immigrant' somehow means 'non-white' are leftists. Anyone who believes that "stopping illegals is just another way to stop more non-whites from taking over their bigoted society" is a moron. The argue I hear from ONE HUNDRED PERCENT of evil right wingers is that illegal immigration is a drain on our law enforcement, welfare system, health system and economy. That's it. Full stop. NEVER have I heard that they want to stop illegal immigration because of race. It's just stupid to even think that could be the case.

Anyone who enters "legally" can NEVER be considered an "illegal"



posted on Sep, 16 2018 @ 05:21 AM
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originally posted by: Southern Guardian
a reply to: Oldtimer2


LOL,you liberals,


Yes yes, us liberals. We aren't the onces fixated on the wall.


That's right, you guys are fixated on open boarders and running the country into the ground.



posted on Sep, 16 2018 @ 05:24 AM
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originally posted by: Southern Guardian
a reply to: Vector99


So a temporary spending bill to keep the government funded is proof no wall funding will ever come?


Question Vector, a serious one. Do you believe Trump's $11 billion dollar wall will be funded by 2020?

You answer this question, and I'll answer one from you.

Not bullsnip.


If the Republicans win the midterms then yes 100% chance.



posted on Sep, 16 2018 @ 05:33 AM
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a reply to: Alien Abduct

As if the Republican Party is trying to shut down the War on Drugs, the Police State, the Prison Industrial Complex, international narco-terrorism, the US being divided over the issues flowing across that border, the flow of cheap quazi-slave labor, etc?



posted on Sep, 16 2018 @ 05:37 AM
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a reply to: Southern Guardian

Are we still doing the wall???


Why not build a moat? Cheaper, cooler and we could have it filled Alligators!

Look at that people I solved the problem and saved a bunch of money and am helping a species build up it’s numbers. And not only that, people from all over the world would come just to see the great.....well I don’t have a name for it yet. But they will venture over just to see it.



posted on Sep, 16 2018 @ 05:39 AM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss


But many, many "liberals" prey that Trump fails,


*pray.
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posted on Sep, 16 2018 @ 05:40 AM
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a reply to: Southern Guardian

Same thing.




posted on Sep, 16 2018 @ 05:41 AM
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a reply to: Alien Abduct


That's right, you guys are fixated on open boarders and running the country into the ground.


*borders.

No I don't want open borders. Never seen one thread on this forum where somebody suggested open borders. You have a good one.




posted on Sep, 16 2018 @ 05:42 AM
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a reply to: Kandinsky


Build it around DC and throw a match in.


Have you ever considered running for President?



posted on Sep, 16 2018 @ 05:43 AM
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Yawn, who cares.

Not sure you can come back from that last disaster hit piece thread 🤣



posted on Sep, 16 2018 @ 05:48 AM
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originally posted by: Kandinsky
a reply to: Gothmog

Build it around DC and throw a match in.

Now that is an idea
Although I would have included MBTs and APCs



posted on Sep, 16 2018 @ 05:50 AM
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a reply to: Arnie123


Yawn, who cares.


Exactly, you couldn't care less about the wall. Point in OP.



posted on Sep, 16 2018 @ 06:41 AM
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a reply to: Breakthestreak

First off, I'm sorry I triggered you like this.

Well I'm not sorry. I just lied.

I lied.

Your post is funny as hell. Thank you.




"most illegals come in legally". What? Then how can they be considered "illegal" if they came in "legally"?


You know I'll take responsibility for that. I didn't elaborate or explain further. The majority of illegals cross the border on legal Visas then overstay those visas. The rest, a good portion, cross the border illegally with no legal entry rights. Funnily enough, many tend to go through the California half of the border, the part that's actually walled off (It has a wall, legit).


Mister. Or misses.


Oh you!


"illegal" does NOT mean Mexican or South American. It literally means ANYONE of ANY NATION and ANY RACE that enters the country without following proper procedure.


Yes. This was never a debate. What's funny though, in light of your comment above, Trump was the one who said he'd get Mexico to pay for the wall. This kind of, err... conflicts with the perfect fact you highlighted in the comment above. Maybe you outta talk to Trump?


The President and his supporters do NOT want to stop immigration from Mexico or South America.


I take it from this comment you're supposedly not a Trump supporter either? Or are you?

Come back to me will ya? I'd love to continue this chat.



Here's a Bud for ya



posted on Sep, 16 2018 @ 07:28 AM
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a reply to: Southern Guardian

This is not a new Idea about building the wall, in the last 20 years they have all been talking about it, left and right, it just depended on how the nation felt at the time, well this time with all the happenings going on in the world our border are not secure, so I guess the wall move to the front of the list once again, which they should of taken care of 20 years ago instead of just talking about it. I look at it this way, if Americans cross into Canada or Mexico we all get arrested, held and sent back to our country if we are lucky, those that cross into the US, get caught held and released until their court date. So if anyone feels safe about this, please leave your doors to you home unlocked with a note saying come on in and help yourself while you are sleeping or away.



posted on Sep, 16 2018 @ 07:45 AM
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a reply to: Allaroundyou

And sharks .

And a herd of T Rex with head mounted laser guided missiles.



posted on Sep, 16 2018 @ 08:16 AM
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I am ready to cut a check for my share.



posted on Sep, 16 2018 @ 08:39 AM
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a reply to: Southern Guardian

I'll donate.
It''s worth it.
Where is the go fund me page?

Once built send all the liberals screaming for socialism to the country that most represents their ideal and let them try to survive there.



posted on Sep, 16 2018 @ 09:11 AM
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a reply to: Southern Guardianso do trump followers still chant, build that wall, at his rallies? I knew Mexico would not pay for it, before he was in office....are his followers still #Winning? Its in my post over a year and a half ago, right here on ATS, where people here were all name calling, and saying to me, "Mexico will too you snowflake" LMAO, those people are still around, and I am still right.







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