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originally posted by: efabian
a reply to: Vasa Croe
A valve within the appliance will blow so the pipes and the appliance it-self would not get damaged.
When these valves blow, all the gas would freely disperse through the house. (Imagine a pressure cooker valve)
Any gas lines guys know the pressures for all the pipes and the valves used and if a high pressure pop could feasibly burst any of these things?
originally posted by: Vasa Croe
originally posted by: Guyfriday
originally posted by: DBCowboy
Now I'm no smart guy. . . but could those "smart meters" be hackable?
There's a joke in there I know it.
Here is a quick looking loo on google:
IoT agenda
Computer World
Sorry for the fear of it all, but it's a reality we live in.
I'm not sure if they could regulate flow from the smart meter and also no sure if they could hack multiple at the same time.
I am wondering though....these explosions all seem to have happened in homes/businesses. That would make me think more that this was a hack to push gas into the open valves, or opening the valves themselves. Wouldn't a leak have blown somewhere on the ground as well? Not just the homes?
originally posted by: astra001uk
a reply to: Vasa CroeIt may be that the Russians have finally got around to seaking retribution for this www.zdnet.com... Seriously though the ability to increase pressure and cause devastation by hacking or hidden software command is very real
originally posted by: RexKramerPRT
I use SCADA at work. We can activate overrides if we need to manually control something but there are interlocks built in at the local level with mechanical protection built in that require physical intervention to adjust. Sure you could mess with a process if you were able to break in but most systems are constantly monitored. Just my view as a SCADA user.
But, wouldn't it be impossible to install physical interlocks on a distributed system. The distributed system would have to rely on software to prevent improper configuration.
Once bad actors have access to overall system control, they can probably disguise error signals and provide erroneous data display in order to hide their nefarious activities.
Possible I guess but implies they have an intimate knowledge of current operations.
originally posted by: RexKramerPRT
a reply to: DexterRiley
I agree that nothing is impossible but there are skilled and motivated people on both sides.
originally posted by: SouthernForkway26
a reply to: Vasa Croe
Very doubtful. If the pressure was jacked up and regulators and blow off valves disabled, things like water heaters and furnaces with a pilot light on all the time would burn the gas as if the appliance was turned on. Explosions come from a whole room or house being filled with gas and then hit by an ignition source.
a reply to: toysforadults
I have heard of an attack over an air gap. Essentially two machines were sending data back and forth using a type of 'Morse code' using their speakers and microphones on a frequency inaudible to humans. It is possible.