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posted on Sep, 13 2018 @ 08:33 AM
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originally posted by: UKTruth
Fascism is a left wing ideology formed from Marxism - a repackaging.
It's now been repackaged again and is called Progressivism.


I think your comment is not well thought out.

I could be you are just taking words that have negative meanings for you and grouping them all together.

Might want to re-think your statement.




posted on Sep, 13 2018 @ 08:34 AM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss



"Fascism" is the merger of State & Corporate Power, the premise of my Obamacare 'flyer' above, which "Anti-Fascists" absolutely ignore in their entire conceptualization of 'what fascism is'.


Well. I don't disagree with you, the states decended into said corporate merger fascism for quite some time now. Revolving doors anyone? Capitalism is the holy cow in this scenario, which is why you'll have Anti-Fascists bringing up socialism once you go down this road. Right?



I once did a thread arguing that communism inherently becomes conservative.


That sounds interesting, the old norse thing thing right there.



posted on Sep, 13 2018 @ 08:37 AM
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a reply to: JasonBillung

Well this gets us into the territory of, easiest to use North Korea as example: Communist + Nationalist. Where classical Marxism called for global "revolution", North Korea doesnt push for that, keep to themselves, thus when you pull the economic model out of the equation it becomes "right wing" by that mere self-appeal to national solidarity thing, converse to todays "liberals" that often insist on having open borders worldwide.




posted on Sep, 13 2018 @ 08:37 AM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss




White Pride = Supremacism = Black Power = Supremacism = Gay Pride = Supremacism = Liberals Must Die = Supremacism = Insult Mohammed and I'll chop your head off = Supremacism = Etc = Supremacism


sooo....

An attempt to move to universal heath care in the US = Supremacism like the things mentioned above?

Isn't that a pretty false equivalency?



posted on Sep, 13 2018 @ 08:40 AM
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a reply to: JasonBillung

I know



posted on Sep, 13 2018 @ 08:42 AM
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a reply to: JasonBillung

Your example doesnt fit into that. Unless that it its an over-arching push for one group to have supremacy to those benefits over other groups access to it.

Its purely an inter-group supremacy concept. Which I've written about at length, but havent made a thread specific to it quite yet, but its a universal constant in human affairs, despite "white pride" getting ALL the negative press regarding it.

Obtuse Tribalism one might call it. Which is the SJW way, as well.



posted on Sep, 13 2018 @ 08:43 AM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

In classical Marxism the most industrialized nations should fall first. Why is it that it was the most backward, agriculture based nations went first?

I think that the industrial nations became very aware of the threat of Marxism, and became very socialist during the 19th and 20th centuries to stave off the workers revolt.

So yes, the US is already a socialist nation. As are most 1st world countries.



posted on Sep, 13 2018 @ 08:44 AM
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originally posted by: JasonBillung

You do know that antifa in the US is not an organized movement, don't you? It is more of an idea, or a group of ideas, that folks respond to.


Hillary etc screamed RESIST and out the floodgate they poured. The other day the thread was about Antifa people complaining they didnt get paid by Soros. Etc.




posted on Sep, 13 2018 @ 08:47 AM
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a reply to: JasonBillung

Not all industrialized nations fell for the hoodwink of Communism. There was a movement here in the US, late 1800's, but the trade unions movement rose up and helped put the corporations in check. And then they resorted to highly supremacist, goosestepping tactics, and now they suck too. Then the DNC pushed for open borders and somehow the unions still follow them...



posted on Sep, 13 2018 @ 08:48 AM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

originally posted by: JasonBillung

You do know that antifa in the US is not an organized movement, don't you? It is more of an idea, or a group of ideas, that folks respond to.


Hillary etc screamed RESIST and out the floodgate they poured. The other day the thread was about Antifa people complaining they didnt get paid by Soros. Etc.



Are you derailing your own thread?



posted on Sep, 13 2018 @ 08:49 AM
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a reply to: JasonBillung

Antifa is part of the topic.



posted on Sep, 13 2018 @ 08:50 AM
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a reply to: JasonBillung

we are rejecting to continue until you give back at us a smile.



posted on Sep, 13 2018 @ 08:55 AM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss




Then the DNC pushed for open borders and somehow the unions still follow them...


Open boarders?

This is simply a hyperbolic lie. Who wants open boarders? Who does not want national security?

For many folks, it seems like they miss the point. Sure, build a southern wall. Will that stop the ocean? Will that stop the northern boarder? Will that stop folks with visas from flying into the US, and overstaying their visas?

I want security. And I like big walls. But to say that the left wants open boarders is nonsense.

I think the folks that want open boarders are US businesses who make money off undocumented workers. If you are serious about stopping illegals, then make US business use eVerify, the system that checks if they have valid SSNs. Make that a law. Write your congress folks.
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posted on Sep, 13 2018 @ 08:56 AM
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originally posted by: Damla
a reply to: JasonBillung

we are rejecting to continue until you give back at us a smile.



posted on Sep, 13 2018 @ 08:58 AM
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a reply to: JasonBillung

perfect deal. nice doing business with you.



posted on Sep, 13 2018 @ 09:03 AM
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originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss



Definition of fascism
1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

2 : a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control
early instances of army fascism and brutality —J. W. Aldridge

www.merriam-webster.com...

I don't think you know what you're talking about. A tendendcy to intolerance regarding intolerance isn't a tendency to dictatorial control by definition. It's the only thing that keeps fascism at bay.

No Antifa member I know exalts nation and race above the individual.


But all Antifa are communist and declare that violence against fascist is a great thing. The problem is that they think everyone that does not agree with them are fascist.

I can say that because every Antifa I "know" (technically if I know anyone that is a member of that group I immediately discount them) says that ALL Trump supporters are fascist. So literally they are saying that at least some 60 million Americans deserve to have their heads caved in.



posted on Sep, 13 2018 @ 09:09 AM
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But all Antifa are communist and declare that violence against fascist is a great thing.


Really? You have take a poll of all folks who are against fascists? So, everyone who is not for fascism must be a communist?

I know of a guy in the 1930's who said the same thing...



posted on Sep, 13 2018 @ 09:12 AM
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originally posted by: JasonBillung
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss




Then the DNC pushed for open borders and somehow the unions still follow them...


Open boarders?

This is simply a hyperbolic lie. Who wants open boarders? Who does not want national security?

For many folks, it seems like they miss the point. Sure, build a southern wall. Will that stop the ocean? Will that stop the northern boarder? Will that stop folks with visas from flying into the US, and overstaying their visas?

I want security. And I like big walls. But to say that the left wants open boarders is nonsense.

I think the folks that want open boarders are US businesses who make money off undocumented workers. If you are serious about stopping illegals, then make US business use eVerify, the system that checks if they have valid SSNs. Make that a law. Write your congress folks.



Communist want open borders.

www.cpusa.org...

Antifa are communist.



posted on Sep, 13 2018 @ 09:14 AM
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But all Antifa are communist


Only on ATS, the place where old farts struggle to cope with 'the other' alternative reality.
Over here in Germany, we even have conservative folks holding up candles against extremism. Who knew!



I can say that because every Antifa I "know" (technically if I know anyone that is a member of that group I immediately discount them) says that ALL Trump supporters are fascist. So literally they are saying that at least some 60 million Americans deserve to have their heads caved in.


Well, you surely have your lables in order to argue with collective punishment like that. There's evil geniuses on both sides of your narrow political spectrum, so what?
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posted on Sep, 13 2018 @ 09:15 AM
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originally posted by: JasonBillung
a reply to: Fools




But all Antifa are communist and declare that violence against fascist is a great thing.


Really? You have take a poll of all folks who are against fascists? So, everyone who is not for fascism must be a communist?

I know of a guy in the 1930's who said the same thing...


I explicitly wrote that all ANTIFA are communist.

AND

Yes, all antifa are communist:

www.theepochtimes.com...

Yes they think all Trump supporters are fascist:

www.thenation.com...
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