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Oliver the Human-Chimp Hybrid / Humanzee

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posted on Sep, 18 2018 @ 10:22 AM
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originally posted by: peacefulpete

originally posted by: peter vlar

originally posted by: peacefulpete

originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: peacefulpete




I don't have proof of what? Factually his y-DNA was never tested, i.e. his paternal DNA was never tested. It's all factual.


That this chimp was a hybrid.

There is no evidence.




The evidence is his morphological anomalies.


To your untrained eye. To a primatologist or Anthropologist, what you view as an anomaly is within the the standard range of variation. You’re commenting out of your depth. It really is that simple.


Out of my depth? Then who is allowed to comment on such topics? Only geneticists? Are you going to tell me now that YOU are a geneticist?


A geneticist? No, Paleoanthropologidt with a qualified level of knowledge on ancient Pleistocene genetics in european Homijids, specifically Neanderthal. So while not a geneticist, I’m certainly qualified to determine when someone else is running with a pet hypothesis and who knows the material they are debating.


Oliver's anomalies are obviously NOT in the standard range of variation. He is the ONLY chimp known to walk upright habitually, for example, with a skeleton that was apparently "built" for walking upright.


Again, you’re completely wrong. Not a surprise at this point though. Oliver’s morphology is precisely within the standard deviations for Pan Troglodytes. Please present a citation to support your claims.


Being the only ONE known example of that, is certainly NOT in the standard range of variation lol.


You keep repeating yourself and running a circular Gish Gallop that goes nowhere outside of your own head. Good luck with... whatever.

Tell you what, since you feel so qualified to discuss genetics, you post your CV and I’ll post mine and we can see what’s what. You are an expert right?




posted on Sep, 19 2018 @ 03:14 AM
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A geneticist from the University of Chicago examined Oliver's chromosomes and determined that Oliver had 48, not 47, chromosomes. Oliver also had an unusual mitochondrial DNA sequence indicating he could represent a unique population of Chimpanzees never encountered before. (for more on Oliver: click on
( PDF )
www.indiana.edu...

Nail in the Coffin ?
Olivers DNA Vs a Common Chimp



this Image came from a Documentary of Oliver ( now Old ) when he was rediscovered

When he he was Rediscovered many years later and placed in a Sanctuary till his death ..



posted on Sep, 19 2018 @ 03:26 AM
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a reply to: peacefulpete

hi - can you kink to olivers pelvic x-ray images - you know the ones that will demonstrate that he has a sketetal development incompatible with " pan trog. " ??????????????



posted on Sep, 20 2018 @ 05:14 PM
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a reply to: peter vlar

I have one reply.

A real "Paleoanthropologidt" wouldn't be making sarcastic, meaningless remarks while claiming to be a Paleoanthropologidt.

I suggest you use your advanced technology and ur brilliance to surf back to Pornhub.



posted on Sep, 20 2018 @ 05:16 PM
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a reply to: peter vlar

Also would a real "Paleoanthropologidt" be misspelling his own job title that he's bragging about?



posted on Sep, 20 2018 @ 05:17 PM
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originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: peacefulpete

hi - can you kink to olivers pelvic x-ray images - you know the ones that will demonstrate that he has a sketetal development incompatible with " pan trog. " ??????????????


I obviously never claimed to be an X-ray technician who had personally X-rayed the creature that the thread is about.



posted on Sep, 20 2018 @ 05:20 PM
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originally posted by: Butterfinger
a reply to: peacefulpete

No sir! two surrounded a snorkler lady and thrashed her around and she said they put their snouts between her knees and knocked side to side. The lady was freaked out and ushered away by a bunch of people.

It wasnt quite as erotic as the Shape of Water, IMHO


I still don't know what you're talking about lol but I starred your post for the entertainment of imagining that happening lol.



posted on Sep, 20 2018 @ 06:13 PM
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originally posted by: Wolfenz

A geneticist from the University of Chicago examined Oliver's chromosomes and determined that Oliver had 48, not 47, chromosomes. Oliver also had an unusual mitochondrial DNA sequence indicating he could represent a unique population of Chimpanzees never encountered before. (for more on Oliver: click on
( PDF )
www.indiana.edu...

Nail in the Coffin ?
Olivers DNA Vs a Common Chimp



this Image came from a Documentary of Oliver ( now Old ) when he was rediscovered

When he he was Rediscovered many years later and placed in a Sanctuary till his death ..




Nice. I did mention & show that small bit of anomalous DNA in the video, and I believe that screenshot is from the documentary "The Human Chimp."

Apparently it shows a small bit of anomalous DNA but I don't think anyone has explained what that small difference might actually mean?

Along those lines, I don't think anyone knows what a lot of DNA really means, in the first place.



posted on Sep, 20 2018 @ 09:18 PM
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a reply to: peacefulpete

sigh - evasive little critter - aint you


but seriously - dont you find it rather odd - that , given the claims about oliver - which you regurgitate

no pelvic x-rays have been published ????

if oliver really was a " hybrid " with a unique sketetal structure

why has it not been documented - by the fast , easy , reliable technique of pelivic x-ray ??????????????

if the claims = true - it would deliver evidence of olivers uniquness



posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 03:07 AM
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originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: peacefulpete

sigh - evasive little critter - aint you


but seriously - dont you find it rather odd - that , given the claims about oliver - which you regurgitate

no pelvic x-rays have been published ????

if oliver really was a " hybrid " with a unique sketetal structure

why has it not been documented - by the fast , easy , reliable technique of pelivic x-ray ??????????????

if the claims = true - it would deliver evidence of olivers uniquness



The big tragedy of the case is that Oliver's body was not preserved after death. It was cremated, with good intentions, but it was really misguided IMO. The knowledge of studying his body after death, would have been invaluable to science.

The documentary "The Human Chimp" is available on YouTube, and it includes his time in Japan, during which they did various tests on him.

One test was supposed to measure Oliver's center of gravity, in his body, and it was reported to be more similar to humans than chimps. However, the documentary is blurry (as per old TV shows being blurry), and I don't speak Japanese, plus it was back in the 70's, so it's no wonder that this particular study has not been more well-known. It's also the only known study like that AFAIK.

However, here's the thing:

His habitual upright walk indicates that his skeletal structure was different.

Because normal chimps' are limited by their skeletal structure making it difficult to walk upright.

That alone indicates a different skeletal structure.

Plus if you look at video of Oliver walking, next to vid of a normal chimp walking upright, it's just plain obvious that the two vids are showing something different. Normal chimps don't walk like Oliver even when they are straining to walk upright, their upright-walk is much more clumsy and unbalanced and strained. It's the opposite of Oliver actually preferring to walk upright in a much more steady gait.



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