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posted on Sep, 11 2018 @ 11:08 PM
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What I also understand. If there is so much work and not enough contractors they would just increase prices. Waiting 4 weeks to assist you is a sin, I'd help you sooner... With an additional 50% markup at least... Take it or leave it.




posted on Sep, 11 2018 @ 11:21 PM
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originally posted by: jacobe001

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: SR1TX


I pay great $ for high quality work, and my team is very motivated to make more based on the enjoyment having $, a tool, brings.

Money is a great motivator. Try not having it sometime.


Give them 5 bucks an hour pay raise and see if they work harder...lol More pay just becomes the new norm and so production will drop back to what it was before.

You still need to pay for skill and the value the position brings you, so yes you could be paying big $$ for a person's skills, BUT they better be bringing profit to offset that pay or you will not be in business very long.


If you are paying peanuts and constantly loosing and training new people because no one wants to stick around, you will not be in business very long either.
But you think socialism is still better right? Just today someone told me they took a group of Russians to a Costco. The one girl asked "where is the coffee line?" And fainted when she saw the row where the coffee is. This is a true story and I had no idea they still had bread lines in Russia.



posted on Sep, 11 2018 @ 11:23 PM
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a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

what kinda bs is that



posted on Sep, 11 2018 @ 11:26 PM
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originally posted by: Puppylove
Frank truth is, most people are realizing everything is a sham. Many and I don't blame them would rather live on the street than do nothing but work til they drop to barely cover basic expenses. It's simply not a life worth living.


I think you hit the nail on the head. The entire financial, monetary system is a complete sham and the internet is making more people wiser to that. Why work minimum wage for 60 hours a week when you can live in your van and have free time all the time?

People simply do not want to work hard jobs for scraps anymore and for good reason. Those who can get a good paying job do so. The rest who cannot give up the race.

I have worked minimum wage at a Taco Bell before. That is ass busting work I do not care what anyone says. Faster paced and more stressful than a physical labor job which pays more as I have also had.

What is the point? I do not have a solution but I hope somebody does, afterall if I want a quesadilla on my lunch break, I need somebody there staffing the damn place to make that possible.

If every Walmart employee quit tomorrow because they realize their work is not worth the pay, well you would see chaos in the streets instantly.



posted on Sep, 11 2018 @ 11:50 PM
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originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

what kinda bs is that
Well why don't you ask the Soviets. You really think I'm just telling lies ? Geez you are the one brainwashed. See for yourself
m.youtube.com...



posted on Sep, 11 2018 @ 11:50 PM
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originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

what kinda bs is that
Well why don't you ask the Soviets. You really think I'm just telling lies ? Geez you are the one brainwashed. See for yourself
m.youtube.com...
Here is an article that gives a more clear and in depth explanation and it is pretty true, as I had a Russian dance instructor tell me that the mafia controls the economy and he also said the Russian people still hate Stalin. That was in 2001 he told me. And yes he loves Costco. edsnidercenter.org...
My college text book stated that there were supply/demand problems in Russia during the collapse. Also Skousen believes that communism never really collapsed, that it was a ruse for continued control.
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posted on Sep, 12 2018 @ 12:01 AM
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a reply to: JAGStorm>>> You have the return of the coal barons and mills from over a hundred years ago, only now they're online sellers like Jeff Bezos. He runs Amazon like a sweat shop. They broke up trusts and we have to do that again, carve these big conglomerates up. In the media, retail, everywhere.



posted on Sep, 12 2018 @ 12:04 AM
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originally posted by: jacobe001


You know, there was a time in this country when people had the freedom to do their own thing, live on the streets, camp in the woods and live off the land, but now it seems there are many entitled that think everyone should be serving the business class if not, they should be killed off. Sounds like Communism to me.


Because Communism is the handmaiden of the business class. No. Honest.



posted on Sep, 12 2018 @ 12:07 AM
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originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus


But you think socialism is still better right? Just today someone told me they took a group of Russians to a Costco. The one girl asked "where is the coffee line?" And fainted when she saw the row where the coffee is. This is a true story and I had no idea they still had bread lines in Russia.


They don't, although they are still polite enough to queue.

Russia is neither Communist nor Socialist. Look up the experiment in free market capitalism in Russia in the early nineties...
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posted on Sep, 12 2018 @ 12:11 AM
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originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus


Well why don't you ask the Soviets. You really think I'm just telling lies ? Geez you are the one brainwashed. See for yourself
m.youtube.com...


You do know that the Soviet Union no longer existed in 1992? That the Russian Federation was undergoing massive and sudden free market reforms when this report was made?

That's not communism or socialism. That's what unregulated capitalism looks like.

The same unregulated capitalism that created the oligarchs that created Putin.

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posted on Sep, 12 2018 @ 12:22 AM
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originally posted by: Whodathunkdatcheese

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus


Well why don't you ask the Soviets. You really think I'm just telling lies ? Geez you are the one brainwashed. See for yourself
m.youtube.com...


You do know that the Soviet Union no longer existed in 1992? That the Russian Federation was undergoing massive and sudden free market reforms when this report was made?

That's not communism or socialism. That's what unregulated capitalism looks like.

The same unregulated capitalism that created the oligarchs that created Putin.
I've just posted the answer to that. You do know that socialism is a bridge between capitalism and communism. The article describes it as a state run mafia. And that totally corroborates with what I just stated my Russian dance instructor told me and yes He LOVED Costco.
I swear people are determined to present socialism as the great solution to the evils of capitalism. When will they ever learn .....and the date of the article is April 6,2018
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posted on Sep, 12 2018 @ 12:41 AM
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a reply to: Whodathunkdatcheese


Taking the defence industry, in 2007 no less that 49 per cent of enterprises and organisations were fully state-owned, 27 per cent had state ownership participation and only 24 per cent were fully private.13 Given that almost all very large enterprises are fully state owned and private companies tend to be of a smaller scale, the state share of employment and output is probably larger than these figures suggest. Indeed, the available data indicate that 58 per cent of defence industry employees work in the ‘state sector’,
www.sciencedirect.com...
People promoting socialism always try to present it like capitalism is responsible for all the pain. This last article clearly shows it's not really that capitalist yet.



posted on Sep, 12 2018 @ 12:50 AM
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originally posted by: jacobe001

Back in the day, they WORKED for themselves, not working to make others richer.
Most people work to make the employers richer, the bankers and real estate investors richer, the healthcare sector richer and have nothing left to show for it.


I live pretty damn good for having nothing to show for it....



posted on Sep, 12 2018 @ 12:53 AM
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originally posted by: jacobe001

If you are paying peanuts and constantly loosing and training new people because no one wants to stick around, you will not be in business very long either.


That can be true, if it is a job that takes a day or two to learn then you can do this...not something I would see as a career. I hire people into positions that pay 80k to start, takes me 3 or 4 months to train up and I want to keep them 3 to 5 years or more, so yes the pay isn't bad, but then they are not flipping hamburgers.


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posted on Sep, 12 2018 @ 12:56 AM
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originally posted by: jacobe001

The wages should be what employers are willing to pay or not.
If they are not getting employees at 11 bucks an hour, then they either raise wages are go under.
Capitalism 101.


There is a lot that goes into the calculations. What kind of quality worker do you need? How long do you want to keep them? What does the job provide the company? ETC ETC. If you are paying a cashier at 7-11 30 bucks an hour you are losing money, as example as to what the job provides to the company.



posted on Sep, 12 2018 @ 12:57 AM
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originally posted by: jacobe001

So then who is left if the kids are back in school and unavailable to do those jobs?
The cheap labor express illegals?


Illegals do many jobs Americans will not do, so there is a need... I would like to see work visa programs instead of illegals.



posted on Sep, 12 2018 @ 12:59 AM
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originally posted by: jacobe001


Sounds like something Stalin would approve of.


I get all Stalinish when a person says that if job will not pay them what they feel they are worth they will just live on the streets...lol



posted on Sep, 12 2018 @ 01:07 AM
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originally posted by: notsure1

If you stopped getting paid would you still go to work? Rhetorical.. Of course you wouldnt.



I really think you are Fing with me now...lol

You get hired a 50k a year....yes there is money...

3 months later I tell you I'm going to pay you 55k now, but I want you to work hard/better... This is the lowest form of motivation because it is not Intrinsic motivation, and so for a week or two your production goes up some then it drops back to where you were before.

At the end I get the same level of work out of you but I'm paying you 5k more to do it...
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posted on Sep, 12 2018 @ 02:21 AM
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originally posted by: Lightdhype

originally posted by: Puppylove
Frank truth is, most people are realizing everything is a sham. Many and I don't blame them would rather live on the street than do nothing but work til they drop to barely cover basic expenses. It's simply not a life worth living.


I think you hit the nail on the head. The entire financial, monetary system is a complete sham and the internet is making more people wiser to that. Why work minimum wage for 60 hours a week when you can live in your van and have free time all the time?

People simply do not want to work hard jobs for scraps anymore and for good reason. Those who can get a good paying job do so. The rest who cannot give up the race.

I have worked minimum wage at a Taco Bell before. That is ass busting work I do not care what anyone says. Faster paced and more stressful than a physical labor job which pays more as I have also had.

What is the point? I do not have a solution but I hope somebody does, afterall if I want a quesadilla on my lunch break, I need somebody there staffing the damn place to make that possible.

If every Walmart employee quit tomorrow because they realize their work is not worth the pay, well you would see chaos in the streets instantly.


For many, the minimum threshold for taking a job is being able to afford their own place to stay as well as being able to pay utility bills and food, plus some social life. If you add up all those costs, that usually comes to around 20K. But minimum wage is 14K/year. Somewhere rural will also need the expense of a car, around 3K/year.

The next level is being able to leave a job if things don't work out - maybe the job description changes or the work environment is unbearable. So many people will choose to work as freelancers/contractors rather than take on "senior engineer" positions where they have to give three months notice, while other companies only hire one month in advance.
Employers think the simplest solution to avoid having their employees poached is non-compete agreements or notice periods of several months.

Then there is the commute time. Having to commute to and from work in many places takes 1 hour each way. That's 10 hours or one extra working day. Cut the expense of renting an apartment and a long commute and just live in a camper van is a cost effective measure. And you can simply relocate if you change jobs. No need for apartment hunting each time you change jobs. Some employers would take advantage of you signing a lease, then changing the job description - sometimes even changing a contract position to a permanent position.



posted on Sep, 12 2018 @ 03:00 AM
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a reply to: dawnstar

I'm not sure of the cost of living in the U.S but here 9 bux an hour won't get you far, if that is all people are getting paid for that kind of work it doesn't at all surprise me people are not willing to do the work.

When I was landscaping I charged 60 an hour and I felt that was rubbish money for the work I did, I have blown my back as well and I'm currently retraining as I just cannot do that kind of work any more.
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