Are the homeless going to take over the city elite in the future

a reply to: musicismagic

Life expectancy for street homeless males is 47 and for females is 42 (UK).

So no, they will most likely never live long enough to outnumber any other group.

There are a lot of homeless people that are not junkies, that have fell on hard times, been out priced for their area. But the junkies, why not give them the gear free? If as some seem to think they are all druggies then there are some very, very rich pushers about and with moving that much stuff the police are either in on it or they're thick as pig s###.
How much does it cost to clean up after them? Giving them the goods would stop 1. the begging for money to get the stuff and 2. stop the criminal behaviour to get the stuff and 3. take it out of the criminals hands to control the situation better.
But then again you'll probably say" why should I support their habit". So let me leave you with your reason "get rid of the scum cos it's blighting my life"
There but the grace of god goes you.

a reply to: crayzeed

There have been studies that show that many who end up homeless through hard times don't tend to remain in that situation for long because they take advantage of the numerous programs set up to help them.

The long-term homeless tend to be those who are suffering from either addiction or mental illness or both.

a reply to: ketsuko
Well don't you think the first of the Numerous programs they should try is building homes for them. And I don't mean homes like the ones they lived in that got sold from under their feet for vast profit because the "elite" think it's the place to live, therefore bumping up the price of property that the locals (who have lived there their whole lives) could not even hope to afford.
Addiction and mental illness does not heal itself, especially by ignoring it or shoving it to places that wont upset people who think it will never happen to them. So they tried to help and it failed. That tells me that they never tried the right method but tried any method, it didn't work so gave up.

a reply to: crayzeed

Addiction and mental illness can only be treated if the person suffering from those things is an active participant.

A lot of people who are long-term on the streets will tell you that they don't take advantage of the programs that exist because they don't like the rules. In other words, they aren't willing to participate in their own rehabilitation.

So either they are forced into it, or we simply prop them up perpetually. I am not willing to prop up someone in their vice. That isn't helping them; it's only enabling them to continue in their misery.

a reply to: crayzeed

Scared, cold, lonely and with dangerous people everywhere you look, uncaring people just walking past and no one to help when you are at your most down then some guy('s) come over and offer you a bit of his stuff to make you feel better and God help you if you are pretty.

For many homeless it is an unmerciful spiral downward, many end up homeless in the first case due to nervous break down's or other mental issue's while the safety net we have over here in the UK that is supposed to help vulnerable people actually does not work.

Meanwhile we now have people working all the hours God send's and still having to attend food bank's while the Tory's pat themselves on the back claiming that we have the lowest number of unemployed for decades after there inhumane and draconian policy's have literally sent many to there death's, some through suicide and other's from the stress and illness made worse by those policy's.

In the US it is a completely different cup of tea however, they never really had any safety net, there intelligence agency's were the one's whom actually funneled drugs into there black ghettos to destroy them when they started to begin to mirror white america because they feared the new economic and political power which the newly empowered black middle class was garnering back in the 50's and early 60's.

But what began as racist inspired activity by a minority of power mongering men fearing that there own personal way of life was at threat soon expanded to include ALL poor american's.

Of course they also run a massive private prison scam over there were people of all ethnicity's with only one thing in common and that being that they are often too poor to afford genuine high quality legal representation are railroaded often for crime's they have not committed so that the prison system whose owner's are often the same people that own the private police forces over there can keep state money flowing into there bank account's using these people as livestock to drive there own personal wealth in a macabre reincarnation of the slavery system.

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And more recently the same tactic's used but to destabilize other nation's whom certain corporate interests want to control, how does destabilizing a nation and creating a flood of refugee's heading to the US from that nation ever benefit the US, in short it does not but these guy's were never really about serving US interests only those of certain financially interested group's AKA the corporation's.

www.telegraph.co.uk...

The Renraku Arcology — formerly known as the Self-Contained Industrial-Residential Environment (SCIRE), and now known as Arcology Commercial and Housing Enclave (ACHE) — a massive, truncated, pyramid that was (and possibly still is) the ninth largest building in the world, and is a major landmark in modern Seattle.

Construction started in 2040, with completion in 2054. Originally home to over 90,000 Renraku employees and family members. The SCIRE served as a shopping mall, industrial complex, and basically self-contained private city of Renraku within the Seattle Metroplex. In the aftermath of the events known as Arcology Shutdown (2059-2061), the building was turned over to Seattle government, and turned into a massive public housing project.

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This kind of crap probably coming.