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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Subaeruginosa
By Obama's logic when he said "You didn't build that."
The entire impetus of any small business venture is credited entirely to society at large and no credit rests on the entrepreneurial spirit of the individual who took the initial plunge and made it all happen.
So ignorance is the point of the exercise.
originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
a reply to: SocratesJohnson
The ignorance of all the people commenting on that twitter feed is just mind blowing.
So, by their logic, the entire operation of killing bin laden is credited to the individual who actually pulled the trigger... right?
Well, then by that same logic... who would they hold responsible for all the civilian deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan?
Idiots!
On the other hand, it'll be interesting times when some enterprising lawyer tries to use that for a murder defense. We see the seeds of it when they write the editorials blaming society, but I'd like to see someone really drill down and blame all the individuals involved. Sort of make the defense a "This Is Your Life! ... Joe Blow" type thing where the lawyer tries to convince the jury of the collective guilt of every witness for the murder.
originally posted by: roadgravel
"I killed Bin Laden"
"I killed Bin Laden"
"I killed Bin Laden"
Will the real "I killed Bin Laden" please stand up.
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
a reply to: SocratesJohnson
The ignorance of all the people commenting on that twitter feed is just mind blowing.
So, by their logic, the entire operation of killing bin laden is credited to the individual who actually pulled the trigger... right?
Well, then by that same logic... who would they hold responsible for all the civilian deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan?
Idiots!
Obama didn't get OBL, that would be Bush. Wanna know how? It works the same was as the Trump economy actually belonging to Obama.
originally posted by: Drunkenparrot
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
a reply to: SocratesJohnson
The ignorance of all the people commenting on that twitter feed is just mind blowing.
So, by their logic, the entire operation of killing bin laden is credited to the individual who actually pulled the trigger... right?
Well, then by that same logic... who would they hold responsible for all the civilian deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan?
Idiots!
Obama didn't get OBL, that would be Bush. Wanna know how? It works the same was as the Trump economy actually belonging to Obama.
IMHO, it's not that cut and dry.
Clinton authorized the first attempt to kill Bin Laden in August of 1998 with a cruise missile strike.
The FBI publicly placed Bin Laden on the 10 most wanted list in August of 1998 after he was indicted by U.S. Federal grand Jury first for conspiracy against the U.S. then murder of U.S. citizens after the embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania.
Furthermore, the CIA were given authorisation to capture (or kill) OBL about the same timeframe.
Much of the information used to identify the courier that eventually led the CIA to Bin Laden was gleaned during Bush 43's presidency but it didn't all come together and Bin Laden's whereabouts were not discovered until mid-2010, well into Obama's first term.
George W. certainly played a major role in the final outcome post sept 11 by placing a 25 million USD bounty on Bin Laden's head, declaring the "war on terror", invading Afghanistan and empowering the CIA with the tools and infrastructure that eventually led them to Bin Laden.
However, the chain of events that ended with Senior chief Robert O'Neill's doubletap in Abbottabad spans 3 presidencies, none of whom can claim sole credit