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The Unmitigated Arrogance of the Deep State Author

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posted on Sep, 7 2018 @ 05:28 PM
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Double.
edit on 7/9/2018 by Kryties because: (no reason given)




posted on Sep, 7 2018 @ 05:57 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
The NYTimes article was written by DNC PR contractors, not any White House staff.
Still waiting for your proof on this...you know what they say about writing cheques with your mouth that yer arse can't cash?



posted on Sep, 7 2018 @ 10:11 PM
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originally posted by: NiNjABackflip
That’s not true. Senior officials have specific roles and duties, none of which involves “thwarting the presidents agenda and worse inclinations.


Senior officials are meant to keep government functioning. When a madman is burning down internal systems, it's their job to preserve them.



posted on Sep, 8 2018 @ 07:28 AM
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originally posted by: Kryties

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: Kryties

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: Kryties

originally posted by: xuenchen
The NYTimes article was written by DNC PR contractors, not any White House staff.

Does anyone know there's a high stakes election coming in a few weeks?



You have a very active imagination, to say the least.


... and some good inside information too sometimes.

😎🚬


Oh you're into that "Q" nonsense are you?

****backs away slowly so as not to disturb the crazy person****
so you think the idea of the DNC using this to "provoke a response" is completely off base? Can you elaborate on why?


It reeks of desperation from Trump supporters.


so the NY Times is in Trumps back pocket? How much thought did you devote to your theory?



posted on Sep, 8 2018 @ 09:06 AM
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at the end of the day, people complaining about this are really just hiding behind a veil they wish Trump had absolute power


Absolutely, they want an anti-American system of warlordism, which favors the uneducated and criminal over the educated and moral.

These people act as if they've never been in any kind of organization before. There are always power struggles, arguing over policies, political backstabbing, etc.



posted on Sep, 8 2018 @ 09:58 AM
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posted on Sep, 8 2018 @ 10:31 AM
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originally posted by: face23785
Now here's an op-ed from someone with a spine.


The real adults in the room. At this point the author looks like a bloody fool.



posted on Sep, 9 2018 @ 01:12 AM
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The problem is, the American citizenry voted for President Trump, his agenda, and his worst inclinations. To have it all “frustrated” by unelected, unnamed and unaccountable actors is to essentially nullify the will of the people in favor of the will of some self-proclaimed, self-appointed “steady-state”. So compelled are they to “preserve our democratic institutions” that they run roughshod all over them.


The problem is that you honestly have no idea what his administration is trying to curb. The author did not provide specifics. When Woodward talks about his staff having to literally hide papers so Trump would not sign them, because it would not be in the best interest of the nation is a good indication of what they are trying to stop.

The other problem is that people think just because someone is voted POTUS, that it's a done deal. Especially Trump and especially his supporters, who think he should be immune from criticism and transparency, and all his decisions are perfect... even if they leave our nation and our relationship with our allies in jeopardy. Which is ludicrous. This country is a hell of a lot more important than one guy named Trump, President or not. Voting him into office doesn't mean we just roll along with ANYTHING he decides for 4 years.

I have a feeling that later, once Trump's plans are laid bare, people will realize how important it was for others to intercede to prevent catastrophe.



posted on Sep, 9 2018 @ 03:38 AM
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a reply to: fleabit

The Iraq war wasn’t a good thing for the nation, but no one stole the papers from the president. The bailouts weren’t a good thing, but no one stole the documents from the president’s desk. The Vietnam war wasn’t a good thing for the nation, yet no one had the audacity to steal documents off the leader’s desk.

These people’s job is to advise, to advance the administration’s agenda, to help with the day-to-day business, and so on, and not to thwart or hinder the commander in chief because they don’t like that he “flip flops” and changes subjects in meetings.



posted on Sep, 9 2018 @ 11:00 AM
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These people’s job is to advise, to advance the administration’s agenda, to help with the day-to-day business, and so on, and not to thwart or hinder the commander in chief because they don’t like that he “flip flops” and changes subjects in meetings.


Except you nor anyone else has any idea on what is actually going on in the White House. Most Presidents have the political experience, thick enough skin and a vision and plan, and also actually listen to their advisers. Trump has and does none of those things. He acts on a whim. His actions are often done with no prior planning, and his administration often seem caught completely by surprise by many of his proclamations and tweetstorms. He seems to simply make crap up as he goes along. His first agenda wasn't a brilliantly conceived masterwork, but the rather simple plan of "if Obama enacted it, I will reverse it."

As he runs out of things to undo that Obama put into place, what will he do next? I doubt he even knows. That's frightening. Combine a personality of razor-thin skin and a huge ego, with the well known (and written, by himself), plan of immediately ans harshly seeking retribution for any conceived slights, and that's a dangerous brew. I have no doubt his staff has to constantly jump through hoops to prevent major blunders. Once he discovered the joys of executive orders, he seeks no guidance, he just does whatever the hell he feels like.

And while some of you labor under the delusion that Trump is some sort of hero demi-god who can't make a wrong decision, many others are rightfully a lot more nervous about any decision Trump makes. Previous Presidents understood the gravity of their decisions, and smartly actually took the advice of their administrations into consideration. Trump really does think he knows it all, that's one scary dude to have such close access to a suitcase full of hurt.



posted on Sep, 9 2018 @ 11:09 AM
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because it would not be in the best interest of the nation


Yes but Trump supporters don't care about the country, they only care about attacking liberals, immigrants and foreigners. They want an immoral, unstable, ruthless, extremist who will do terrible things to people they don't like even if it is terrible for the country.

They are traitors as far as I'm concerned.



posted on Sep, 9 2018 @ 11:56 AM
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originally posted by: CB328



because it would not be in the best interest of the nation


Yes but Trump supporters don't care about the country, they only care about attacking liberals, immigrants and foreigners. They want an immoral, unstable, ruthless, extremist who will do terrible things to people they don't like even if it is terrible for the country.

They are traitors as far as I'm concerned.



Your continued inability to understand the other side is your biggest problem. Just because you've been told these things doesn't make it true. Learn to think for yourself.



posted on Sep, 9 2018 @ 12:33 PM
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originally posted by: Kryties

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Kryties

No time for subtleties... Just RUN!


Walk, run....I'm good with anything that puts distance between myself and the crazy person. Even this would be acceptable...



You better hope there's a trampoline down there. Or at least a safety net.



posted on Sep, 9 2018 @ 12:59 PM
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a reply to: fleabit

None of the fears you’ve suggested are reason enough to actively sabotage the agenda of the duly elected president. If the agenda fails it fails, and the people vote in someone else.

Many of you operate under the delusion Trump is a raving mad dictator, and you are wrongfully nervous about any decision Trump makes, a man who has ran a successful organization for half a century.

Trump and his family have been subjected to the worst kinds of press, mockery, protests outside their door every night, spooks and politicians Calling him every name in the book. If Trump has thin skin, some of you are without skin entirely.
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posted on Sep, 9 2018 @ 03:41 PM
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I have never seen this level of opposition in a first world country....



posted on Sep, 9 2018 @ 10:19 PM
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originally posted by: Bloodworth
I have never seen this level of opposition in a first world country....


Well, they are trying hard to turn us into a 3rd world country.



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