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posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 12:42 PM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: projectvxn

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: underwerks

Well, looking at US history, the protesters that were traditionally ejected by force of law were black people protesting Civil Rights. There were also the poor immigrants at the turn of the 20th century, but they used water cannons on them instead.


Oh put it back in the deck.

Put what back in the deck? I was just talking about history. What are you assuming I'm saying here?


You know, your obtuse bull# doesnt work on me right?

Try actually saying what you mean.
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posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 12:43 PM
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a reply to: UKTruth

The bottom 3 on the right are the exception to that.



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 12:43 PM
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originally posted by: PokeyJoe
He's talking about banning protesters on the Senate floor, not overall. He's right - this circus in the confirmation hearings is disgraceful. Doesnt surprise me that these people are paid to cause a scene.


Because citizens shouldn't be allowed to participate in their government?



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 12:44 PM
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originally posted by: projectvxn

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: projectvxn

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: underwerks

Well, looking at US history, the protesters that were traditionally ejected by force of law were black people protesting Civil Rights. There were also the poor immigrants at the turn of the 20th century, but they used water cannons on them instead.


Oh put it back in the deck.

Put what back in the deck? I was just talking about history. What are you assuming I'm saying here?


You know You obtuse bull# doesnt work on me right?

Hmm? I'm not sure what you mean here. This isn't a description of what you think I'm saying. Again. I was just talking about history. Are you suggesting that the historical actions concerning black people and immigrants that Trump is talking about reflect on his character? Because -I- certainly didn't say that.



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 12:45 PM
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a reply to: angeldoll

There are methods already in place for that. Shouting in the Senate isn't "participation".



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 12:45 PM
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a reply to: angeldoll




Because citizens shouldn't be allowed to participate in their government?

would you please elaborate on how those citizens were "participating in their government"?



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 12:45 PM
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originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: angeldoll




Because citizens shouldn't be allowed to participate in their government?

would you please elaborate on how those citizens were "participating in their government"?


If this needs to be explained to you... then... then...
Wow.



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 12:45 PM
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originally posted by: angeldoll

originally posted by: PokeyJoe
He's talking about banning protesters on the Senate floor, not overall. He's right - this circus in the confirmation hearings is disgraceful. Doesnt surprise me that these people are paid to cause a scene.


Because citizens shouldn't be allowed to participate in their government?


Is yelling on the Senate Floor a productive way of participating in their government?



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 12:46 PM
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a reply to: angeldoll

Please by all means educate me.



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 12:47 PM
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originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: angeldoll

originally posted by: PokeyJoe
He's talking about banning protesters on the Senate floor, not overall. He's right - this circus in the confirmation hearings is disgraceful. Doesnt surprise me that these people are paid to cause a scene.


Because citizens shouldn't be allowed to participate in their government?


Is yelling on the Senate Floor a productive way of participating in their government?

Who knows? Ask Congressmen from all political sides who do it all the time. Though sometimes I think we should adopt some of the crazier parliamentary tactics other countries do.


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posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 12:47 PM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

You unnecessarily bring up race in this thread and then act obtuse when someone calls you on your bull#.

If this is your idea of debating issues, you have a long way to go before you're adult table ready.



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 12:48 PM
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originally posted by: angeldoll

originally posted by: PokeyJoe
He's talking about banning protesters on the Senate floor, not overall. He's right - this circus in the confirmation hearings is disgraceful. Doesnt surprise me that these people are paid to cause a scene.


Because citizens shouldn't be allowed to participate in their government?


They sure weren't allowed to participate in the primary in Philly.

They even built a WALL to keep out the riff raff.



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 12:50 PM
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originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: underwerks

originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: underwerks

originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: underwerks

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: underwerks




peaceably

you are so right
just not in the way you intend to be


Speech you don’t agree with isn’t violence. I realize that’s lost on a lot of people around here.

you are correct again
just not in the way you intend

I posted the code of conduct for congressional galleries earlier in this thread perhaps you should read it

it is back to what you posted earlier that peaceable word
that is not lost on you is it?


Again, how were they not peaceable?

I’m sure you have examples of some sort of violence being carried out. Let’s see them.

Had they simply followed the code of conduct for the gallery this would not be an issue. Admission to the gallery is not a right, is it?

Why would violence be needed to not be peaceable?


What types of speech do you classify as violent?

I do not, but violent and not peaceable are not the same thing. You wouldn't be mistakenly conflating the two?


The SCOTUS has defined some speech as unprotected tho....
www.law.cornell.edu...


Fighting words are, as first defined by the Supreme Court (SCOTUS) in Chaplinsky v New Hampshire, 315 U.S. 568 (1942), words which "by their very utterance, inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace. ... Fighting words are a category of speech that is unprotected by the First Amendment.



It’s interesting to see the ATS free speech brigade argue in favor of laws controlling speech.

Thanks.




posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 12:51 PM
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originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: angeldoll

Please by all means educate me.


Here ya go...... It takes a while, but I promise you it's worth it.

constitutionus.com...



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 12:51 PM
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originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: Krazysh0t

You unnecessarily bring up race in this thread and then act obtuse when someone calls you on your bull#.

Here is the thread title, mate:
"Trump advocates banning protests"
Here is the quote in question, mate:
“I don’t know why they don’t take care of a situation like that... I think it’s embarrassing for the country to allow protesters. You don’t even know what side the protesters are on… In the old days, we used to throw them out. Today, I guess they just keep screaming.”
AGAIN. The historical context of throwing people out (of an establishment) has to do with protests involving black people during the Civil Rights era. You can also trace mistreating protesters to how immigrants were mistreated at the turn of the 20th century. It's not my fault that Trump singled out two demographics that people think he is racist against while advocating stripping rights away from liberal protesters.

Don't like it? Well too bad. I'm not here to say things you enjoy.


If this is your idea of debating issues, you have a long way to go before you're adult table ready.

Ironically, insulting someone you disagree with is the hallmark of a child.
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posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 12:51 PM
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Every time a Trump hater begins to say something.

Just shout over them.

That's what free society is all about.



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 12:53 PM
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Wasn't there a congressman who shouted, "You lie" to Obama a few years ago?

I understand that many on the left were not happy with his free speech back then.





posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 12:53 PM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

Indeed, you are here to say things that aren't so.

You NEED this to be about race otherwise any debate you're in falls apart, kinda like this one.



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 12:53 PM
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originally posted by: angeldoll

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: angeldoll

Please by all means educate me.


Here ya go...... It takes a while, but I promise you it's worth it.

constitutionus.com...


The Constitution doesn't always protect free speech.

Try to have a protest on a plane, in the DMV, your local government buildings, a courthouse..... I have more examples if you want them.



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 12:54 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

But he wasn't paid by the Kochs.




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