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Mad Dog General Mattis Torches Bob Woodward For 'Fiction' Anti-Trump Book

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posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 10:03 AM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: UKTruth


So it should be easy for him to provide the recording of Mattis saying what he has attributed to him, then... excellent.


When the time comes. Journalistic privilege requires that they be subpoenaed.


Why would he not just release his tape?
Because he does not have it.


What difference would it make for you if the tapes get released? Seriously.
It always starts with "it didn't happen" with you guys.
And if it happened than it's not so bad.
And if it is bad than it's not a big deal.
And if it is a big deal than it's not Trumps fault.
And If it is Trumps fault than Trump certainly didn't mean it.
And if Trump did mean it than they deserved it.
Rinse and repeat from thread to thread
edit on 5-9-2018 by ErrorErrorError because: (no reason given)




posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 10:03 AM
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originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: Arizonaguy


When that anonymous source is directly contradicted by those that the allegations are directed at, only two things can occur for most rational people:
1. The story loses all credibility
2. The source comes forward and makes their allegations public record.


The problem is that Mattis has not made a public statement, Trump tweeted a statement he claims Mattis made. Trump is a questionable source at best.


Yes, yes... There's always a problem for you when it contradicts your delusional thoughts.

If Mattis had come forward and made a statement himself you'd say he's lying and he shouldn't be trusted.



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 10:05 AM
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a reply to: Grambler

Trump is not an anonymous source. If Woodward released tapes that included sources who wished to remain anonymous it would be a breach of professional ethics.

This is Woodward we're talking about. He kept the identity of the most famous anonymous source in history secret for 40 years.

Do you really want him to throw away his reputation and career?



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 10:05 AM
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So how do you all explain the fact that the book is not the source of kelly's sayings since it was reported long ago that he belittled the potus and then the potus had to beg kelly to stay on at his position?



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 10:06 AM
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originally posted by: vinifalou

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: Arizonaguy


When that anonymous source is directly contradicted by those that the allegations are directed at, only two things can occur for most rational people:
1. The story loses all credibility
2. The source comes forward and makes their allegations public record.


The problem is that Mattis has not made a public statement, Trump tweeted a statement he claims Mattis made. Trump is a questionable source at best.


Yes, yes... There's always a problem for you when it contradicts your delusional thoughts.

If Mattis had come forward and made a statement himself you'd say he's lying and he shouldn't be trusted.


Tell you what, link to a source for Mattis' statement that does not lead back to Trump's tweet. He is not making a public statement himself because he will eventually need to testify under oath. The only statement we have is from a Pentagon spokesman who claims that Bernstein never interviewed Mattis.



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 10:07 AM
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originally posted by: vinifalou

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: Arizonaguy


When that anonymous source is directly contradicted by those that the allegations are directed at, only two things can occur for most rational people:
1. The story loses all credibility
2. The source comes forward and makes their allegations public record.


The problem is that Mattis has not made a public statement, Trump tweeted a statement he claims Mattis made. Trump is a questionable source at best.


If Mattis had come forward and made a statement himself you'd say he's lying and he shouldn't be trusted.


Mattis is the US Secretary of Defense.

He issues statements ALL THE TIME.

Letterhead, signatures and all.

And he doesn't quote himself while writing? LOL

Trump needs a new minister of Propaganda.

Why again have the Sec of Defense and WH Chief of Staff NOT issued official statements clearly stating they never said what Bernstein said they said?

It would take 5 minutes of their time.

You think Trump forgot to ask them to?



edit on 5-9-2018 by soberbacchus because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 10:09 AM
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a reply to: soberbacchus

Why not a press conference? Hmmmm....



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 10:11 AM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: Grambler

Trump is not an anonymous source. If Woodward released tapes that included sources who wished to remain anonymous it would be a breach of professional ethics.

This is Woodward we're talking about. He kept the identity of the most famous anonymous source in history secret for 40 years.

Do you really want him to throw away his reputation and career?


I am not the one discussing his tapes

It’s people saying he has tapes that prove, I don’t know something about someone calling trump mean names, and how he will release them eventually to prove his book

If that’s the case, release them now

I don’t care about Woodward’s reputation

All of these people are claiming this is a damning book without having read it, or even heard him claim who his sources are for the claims that have been released to the media.

And what are most of those claims?

People in trumps team say they think he is dumb

That is not journalism, that is gossip



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 10:14 AM
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originally posted by: soberbacchus

Why again have the Sec of Defense and WH Chief of Staff NOT issued official statements clearly stating they never said what Bernstein said they said?



Who said what? I got lost here.


I think you're giving too much credit to this book, maybe you should turn off CNN and WaPo a little and go play outside.

It doesn't even worth their time. A simple tweet by DJT while using the toilet was enough to break down this whole story.

Of course you won't believe anything he says so it doesn't matter actually. But seriously, you should go play outside a little. Get some air...



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 10:14 AM
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a reply to: Grambler


If that’s the case, release them now

I don’t care about Woodward’s reputation


But Woodward does. Please educate yourself of the role of a free press in a liberal democracy. We do things differently here.



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 10:16 AM
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a reply to: soberbacchus

www.npr.org...
Why would he think responding to this rubbish to suit your whims is needed when all you would have to do is look at his previous interviews?



With your background valuing chain of command and military discipline, do you feel like you've brought some discipline and integrity to this inner circle?
They overstate that, press covers that a lot. Again, I don't mean to be too hard on the press but they — I know everything. Right? And so when I read the press accounts of what's going on here, I say, "gee, how could they have gotten that that wrong?" So I think the press, and maybe it's because only certain people talk and those people maybe leak or are sources — and maybe those people aren't as honorable as they should be. But when I read what they write, I think to myself they may have had some low-level source and that's — and to write a story like that — whatever "that" is for a major newspaper like the Post or the Times -- to base it on almost rumor strikes me as being a little bit — not the way to do business.
There's been some reporting about some derogatory words that you use to describe the president. I know you've denied it.
How would you describe your relationship with Donald Trump?
The president and I have a very close relationship. I've always — my view is to speak truth to power. I always give my opinion, on everything. Sometimes — he always listens. Sometimes he takes the opinion, sometimes he doesn't. The good thing about the president is he does listen to people and when I — the organization I brought to the place is whatever the topic is, generally speaking, we will have a group in there of very — a spectrum. So if it's taxes, you'll have someone who thinks you know very liberally about taxes and someone who's on the arch-conservative side and then a sprinkling of everyone in the middle. And then there's a discussion and generally if there's a decision to be made then I help execute that. So we have a very close relationship in the sense of – I'm his chief of staff and I tell him what I think is always the truth is and whether he goes along with my recommendations is another story.
How would you describe his intellect?
Very smart – a very, very smart guy. I mean a super smart guy. But I think it wouldn't surprise you to know he's very strong. He's very strong in terms of trade, taxes, business and he's a quick study on everything else. He's a pretty bright guy.

But npr is always so kind to the president and his staff???

edit on 5/9/2018 by shooterbrody because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 10:17 AM
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originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: soberbacchus

Why not a press conference? Hmmmm....


A press conference just to discredit some fiction book that has, probably, zero real information?

Ya know... Some people ACTUALLY do some work on this country... It's not like the prez is Obama anymore



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 10:18 AM
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originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: Grambler


If that’s the case, release them now

I don’t care about Woodward’s reputation


But Woodward does. Please educate yourself of the role of a free press in a liberal democracy. We do things differently here.


You keep saying that but I don’t think you know what those words mean

YOU are the one saying he will release tapes to prove his book is true

You are the one saying releasing them now though for some reason would be against ethics, ignoring he has already released one tape

You are defending this book and it’s sources as without a doubt true despite the fact you haven’t read one page, and don’t even know who Woodward is claiming his sources are

So don’t lecture me about ethics



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 10:18 AM
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a reply to: DJW001

And now you have become what you ridicule.



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 10:19 AM
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a reply to: vinifalou


A press conference just to discredit some fiction book that has, probably, zero real information?


If that "fiction" dominates the news cycle they need too get ahead of it.



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 10:20 AM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: Grambler

Trump is not an anonymous source. If Woodward released tapes that included sources who wished to remain anonymous it would be a breach of professional ethics.

This is Woodward we're talking about. He kept the identity of the most famous anonymous source in history secret for 40 years.

Do you really want him to throw away his reputation and career?


It doesn't really matter anymore.
These guys would tell you how it's fake news and demand evidence even if Trump himself pleads guilty of every accusation on Fox & Friends.
It bothered me in the begining but now it's actually entertaining to watch how far they will go to deflect. A shrink could write a major on crap people post here.
But all hail capitalism. Some of Trump apologists on ATS have started to make YouTube videos and and try to earn money of it.
I like

I'll even subscribe



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 10:21 AM
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originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: vinifalou


A press conference just to discredit some fiction book that has, probably, zero real information?


If that "fiction" dominates the news cycle they need too get ahead of it.

no
they really dont
that is what potus twitter use is all about
no filter from the msm
and it drives them nuts



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 10:22 AM
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originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: vinifalou


A press conference just to discredit some fiction book that has, probably, zero real information?


If that "fiction" dominates the news cycle they need too get ahead of it.


Not if the news cycle is fed by the MSM Fake News that would spit on the President if they had a chance.



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 10:23 AM
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a reply to: Grambler

Woodward would have provided his tapes, diaries, etc to his editor and publisher's lawyers. They're not going to let him publish anything that can't be backed up with evidence. They're not going to leave themselves open to any kind of lawsuit.



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 10:24 AM
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a reply to: ErrorErrorError

Thinly veiled swipe at me making YouTube videos

Notice they are not monetized, and I am making no money off of them

If a book was made about anonymous sources saying they heard people connected to obama saying he was dumb, that would something I also wouldn’t be interested in and I would say is gossip

But the anti trump people not only believe every word they hear reported by the press about this book before they have read one page, but feel this gossip is reason to impeach trump

I would think as a subscriber of my YouTube channel you would have a little more common sense than this



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