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posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 07:25 AM
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originally posted by: M5xaz

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: M5xaz
Obama never achieved above 4% growth, never achieved Trump's employment numbers.

Why do people keep repeating this lie? It's easily disprovable.

Not only did Obama break 4% growth multiple times throughout his Presidency, he actually almost hit 6% once.


BECAUSE ACCORDING TO THE FED, OBAMA NEVER DID better than 3.8.
fred.stlouisfed.org... ph?utm_source=series_page&utm_medium=related_content&utm_term=related_resources&utm_campaign=fredblog


The FED.
Not some BS site.

Leftists - just keep lying

Hey Einstein. Using that source, Trump hasn't hit 4% either. In fact, that source STILL proves that Obama hit an overall higher percentage than Trump has ever hit.

Derp.
edit on 5-9-2018 by Krazysh0t because: (no reason given)




posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 07:27 AM
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originally posted by: JBurns
Krazyshot, are you claiming Obama's stagnant economy was anything near Trump's? Our stock markets have been breaking records all year, and our growth is optimistic. Jobs are being brought back into America, putting Americans to work and more corporate money is going into America

JBurns, yes. The numbers don't lie. The economy has been improving at a near constant rate of change since the middle of Obama's Presidency. Unemployment has been steadily dropping since then too. The stock market also broke records during this time period. You guys just didn't notice because you were so busy whining about the debt Obama was adding up that you guys suddenly don't care about under Trump.

PS: I snipped all your right wing rhetoric trying to spin away hard numbers.
edit on 5-9-2018 by Krazysh0t because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 06:28 PM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: M5xaz

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: M5xaz
a reply to: Southern Guardian

Trump IS responsible for the economy
thehill.com...

Obama never achieved above 4% growth, never achieved Trump's employment numbers.

In addition, look at the stock charts of X or NUE since Trump was elected, industries that according to Obama "Those jobs aren't coming back".


Obama had 4+% growth during 4 quarters during his presidency.


FALSE.
Total LIE.

According to the FED, Obama never managed better than 3.8 %
fred.stlouisfed.org... ph?utm_source=series_page&utm_medium=related_content&utm_term=related_resources&utm_campaign=fredblog



You could try linking to the correct figure

fred.stlouisfed.org...




I see you obviously know ZERO on economics
The graph and figures I gave you are "REAL GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT", e.g. after taking out inflation
Your graph "Percent change in Gross Domestic Product" is the raw data

You clearly don't know the difference.
Either way, with or without inflation, whichever method you chose to present the information. Trump's performance beats Obama.

Poor sorry-assed ignorant snowflake



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 06:37 PM
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originally posted by: CB328
insanely stupid, but so are Trump supporters. The Blue Wave can't get here soon enough.


Derp.

People in glass houses.....



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 06:40 PM
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Trump's performance beats Obama


When you tell business they don't have to pay any taxes or follow any laws of course they're going to make money.

The question is, is it worth destroying our environment, morals and society so that the wealthy can be more wealthy? I would definitely say no.



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 06:41 PM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: M5xaz

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: M5xaz
Obama never achieved above 4% growth, never achieved Trump's employment numbers.

Why do people keep repeating this lie? It's easily disprovable.

Not only did Obama break 4% growth multiple times throughout his Presidency, he actually almost hit 6% once.


BECAUSE ACCORDING TO THE FED, OBAMA NEVER DID better than 3.8.
fred.stlouisfed.org... ph?utm_source=series_page&utm_medium=related_content&utm_term=related_resources&utm_campaign=fredblog


The FED.
Not some BS site.

Leftists - just keep lying

Hey Einstein. Using that source, Trump hasn't hit 4% either. In fact, that source STILL proves that Obama hit an overall higher percentage than Trump has ever hit.

Derp.


Too effing stupid to even read a graph.
The chart I gave you end on 1 Jan 2018.

If you look up the article reference I gave you or consult the FED directly, you see that Trump's GDP was 4.5% in Q2 2018
www.businessinsider.com...

....with 4.4% in Q3 2018
www.frbatlanta.org...

QED



posted on Sep, 6 2018 @ 12:42 AM
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originally posted by: M5xaz

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: M5xaz

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: M5xaz
a reply to: Southern Guardian

Trump IS responsible for the economy
thehill.com...

Obama never achieved above 4% growth, never achieved Trump's employment numbers.

In addition, look at the stock charts of X or NUE since Trump was elected, industries that according to Obama "Those jobs aren't coming back".


Obama had 4+% growth during 4 quarters during his presidency.


FALSE.
Total LIE.

According to the FED, Obama never managed better than 3.8 %
fred.stlouisfed.org... ph?utm_source=series_page&utm_medium=related_content&utm_term=related_resources&utm_campaign=fredblog



You could try linking to the correct figure

fred.stlouisfed.org...




I see you obviously know ZERO on economics
The graph and figures I gave you are "REAL GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT", e.g. after taking out inflation
Your graph "Percent change in Gross Domestic Product" is the raw data

You clearly don't know the difference.
Either way, with or without inflation, whichever method you chose to present the information. Trump's performance beats Obama.

Poor sorry-assed ignorant snowflake


I see you are going to double down on the stupid.

The figure you gave is the 12 month change not the annualised quarterly figure. By that figure The economy under Trump hadn't grown by more than 3%.

You clearly either don't understand the numbers you are linking to or are are deliberately lying.



posted on Sep, 6 2018 @ 12:56 AM
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originally posted by: M5xaz

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: M5xaz

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: M5xaz
Obama never achieved above 4% growth, never achieved Trump's employment numbers.

Why do people keep repeating this lie? It's easily disprovable.

Not only did Obama break 4% growth multiple times throughout his Presidency, he actually almost hit 6% once.


BECAUSE ACCORDING TO THE FED, OBAMA NEVER DID better than 3.8.
fred.stlouisfed.org... ph?utm_source=series_page&utm_medium=related_content&utm_term=related_resources&utm_campaign=fredblog


The FED.
Not some BS site.

Leftists - just keep lying

Hey Einstein. Using that source, Trump hasn't hit 4% either. In fact, that source STILL proves that Obama hit an overall higher percentage than Trump has ever hit.

Derp.


Too effing stupid to even read a graph.
The chart I gave you end on 1 Jan 2018.

If you look up the article reference I gave you or consult the FED directly, you see that Trump's GDP was 4.5% in Q2 2018
www.businessinsider.com...

....with 4.4% in Q3 2018
www.frbatlanta.org...

QED


Look again it gives the annual change figure for q2 on the page you linked to.

If you are going to grow 'stupid' and 'liar' comments about you would do better to check your facts a bit more closely. You are trying to compare a quarterly figure for trump against an annual change figure for Obama.

Take your pick of source...

tradingeconomics.com...

fred.stlouisfed.org...

Here's even Fox news confirming Obama had higher growth figures

www-foxnews-com.cdn.ampproject.org... umbers.amp.html?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQCCAE%3D#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.foxne ws.com%2Fpolitics%2F2018%2F07%2F27%2Fgdp-report-shows-booming-4-1-percent-growth-as-trump-touts-terrific-numbers.amp.html%23referrer%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fw ww.google.com%26amp_tf%3DFrom%2520%25251%2524s

If you had any dignity you would retract you insults to myself and Krazyshot, I won't hold my breath however.
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edit on 6-9-2018 by ScepticScot because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 6 2018 @ 06:50 AM
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a reply to: ScepticScot

I mean, can someone be THIS oblivious to the fact they are wrong? It's like he doesn't understand a single economic figure he is linking and just assumes that as long as it is economic related and has a % behind it then it is relevant. He can't get it through his head that not only did Obama achieve 4% growth, his best growth percentage SMASHED any growth percentage Trump has achieved. It's simple numbers that he is deliberately misunderstanding or just doesn't understand anything.

I'm not sure how else to show him that he is wrong at this point. You and I have given him links AND refuted his links and he still doesn't want to get it.


If you had any dignity you would retract you insults to myself and Krazyshot, I won't hold my breath however.

I'm not holding my breath either.

PS: Your Fox News link isn't working. I relinked it for you: GDP report shows booming 4.1 percent growth, as Trump touts 'amazing' numbers

As reported by the Commerce Department’s Bureau of Economic Analysis, the growth from April to June was the largest since the economy's roughly 5 percent surge in the third quarter of 2014, which was the greatest economic expansion since the third quarter of 2003.

edit on 6-9-2018 by Krazysh0t because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 6 2018 @ 08:28 AM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: ScepticScot

I mean, can someone be THIS oblivious to the fact they are wrong? It's like he doesn't understand a single economic figure he is linking and just assumes that as long as it is economic related and has a % behind it then it is relevant. He can't get it through his head that not only did Obama achieve 4% growth, his best growth percentage SMASHED any growth percentage Trump has achieved. It's simple numbers that he is deliberately misunderstanding or just doesn't understand anything.

I'm not sure how else to show him that he is wrong at this point. You and I have given him links AND refuted his links and he still doesn't want to get it.


If you had any dignity you would retract you insults to myself and Krazyshot, I won't hold my breath however.

I'm not holding my breath either.

PS: Your Fox News link isn't working. I relinked it for you: GDP report shows booming 4.1 percent growth, as Trump touts 'amazing' numbers

As reported by the Commerce Department’s Bureau of Economic Analysis, the growth from April to June was the largest since the economy's roughly 5 percent surge in the third quarter of 2014, which was the greatest economic expansion since the third quarter of 2003.


Clearly any suggestion that everything in the time of Trump isn't the biggest and best ever is too much for some people.

As I said in an earlier post Trumps economic record so far is pretty good, but the need to talk it up into something record breaking when it clearly isn't is just baffling.

As for the link it seems my phone has as much respect for fox news as I do...



posted on Sep, 6 2018 @ 08:54 AM
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a reply to: ScepticScot

Exactly. It's not like admitting that Trump's economy isn't the best ever takes away from the fact that the economy is sitting pretty during the time he has been the President.



posted on Sep, 6 2018 @ 07:22 PM
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ScepticScot: the link is working just fine for me.

www.foxnews.com...

Try that one and see if it helps or copy and paste it

edit on 9/6/2018 by JBurns because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 6 2018 @ 07:24 PM
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a reply to: Southern Guardian

Yeah , Maybe IF the Earth Changes it's Orbit..................




edit on 6-9-2018 by Zanti Misfit because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 6 2018 @ 07:30 PM
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a reply to: Southern Guardian

The Crowd Likes TRUTH , and President Trump Accommodates them , Whats the Problem Fella > ?



posted on Sep, 6 2018 @ 07:37 PM
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originally posted by: NthOther
a reply to: Sookiechacha

Yes, "you people".

You people go into conniption fits at the drop of that phrase because you're idiots. What's the difference between "you people" and "you guys"? If anything, the latter is sexist and patriarchal, but I don't see anyone going apes# over that.

You people and your f# word games.






From this day forward you will forever be known as a right wing racist.... Might as well throw in sexist and has done inappropriate acts, maybe not illegal but inappropriate to ruin your career...

Case in point as to proof...




posted on Sep, 6 2018 @ 07:49 PM
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this is a redundant statement



posted on Sep, 6 2018 @ 07:57 PM
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originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: NthOther
a reply to: Sookiechacha

Yes, "you people".

You people go into conniption fits at the drop of that phrase because you're idiots. What's the difference between "you people" and "you guys"? If anything, the latter is sexist and patriarchal, but I don't see anyone going apes# over that.

You people and your f# word games.






From this day forward you will forever be known as a right wing racist.... Might as well throw in sexist and has done inappropriate acts, maybe not illegal but inappropriate to ruin your career...

Case in point as to proof...






Mein Got ! keinesfalls , auf keinen Fall ! .......................)




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