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In-N-Out burger chain receives invitation from Alabama lawmaker amid calls for California boycott

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posted on Sep, 1 2018 @ 04:44 PM
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originally posted by: pavil

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: pavil
"Liberal" California trying to ruin a business solely for their political donations? And not even a huge donation. Remember what the same hive mind did to that pro Trump Coffee shop owner.

You may not like the Republicans and Trump, but do you really want people in power that would do such things?

"I'm sorry, you can't have your business permit, we noticed you voted in the Republican primary last time around. Sorry".

Why am I not surprised.


Individuals deciding to boycott a business is their right. That is not anything close to having the actual government refuse business permits because of their political affiliation.

Unless you have a link that shows otherwise, you are perpetuating a huge false equivalence.


Try as you might that it's not Democrats trying to do this:



"Tens of thousands of dollars donated to the California Republican Party ... it's time to #BoycottInNOut - let Trump and his cronies support these creeps... perhaps animal style!" Eric Bauman, chairman of the California Democratic Party, tweeted Thursday.


You are right......it's only the fricken CHAIRMAN of the California Democratic Party.......... he's a private citizen too!

Do you want people in elected office that wish to punish people for exercising their right to support any political party they choose?

There won't be any bias......how many times have we heard that one.



Yes, it's the chairman. I see that now.

Silly boycott in my opinion, but it is his right. Correct?

Tell me, what would you like to happen to this person because of what he said?

Please...what is your solution?




posted on Sep, 1 2018 @ 04:46 PM
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originally posted by: M5xaz

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: M5xaz



" the head of the California Democratic Party called for a boycott of the famed burger chain after a public filing revealed that the company had recently donated $25,000 to the state’s Republican Party"


Thanks for the link.



Democrats are SEEKING TO BAN ANY FORM OF OPPOSITION.

Authoritarian much ?


Free speech is authoritarian?

That's an odd position to take.

Also, where was it stated they wanted to ban opposition?



That's the left's version of "democracy" and "free speech"....ME, ME, ME, ME!!! In power forever, unchallenged... wear you NARCICISSIM proudly...


I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion based on this.

Again, it appears you may have a twisted view on free speech.


Nope.
You're the one with a twisted view.

Freedom of speech is a principle that supports the freedom of an individual or a community to articulate their opinions and ideas without fear of retaliation, censorship, or sanction

The California Democratic Party wants In-N-Out to BE SANCTIONNED, be BOYCOTTED, merely because In-N-Out has a different political opinion and has given money to the GOP.

DEMOCRATS SUPPORT THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF FREE SPEECH

Q.E.D.


A boycott is an act of free speech.

Are you and others really setting the precedent that a boycott is an act we should act out against?

What actions should be taken against them?



posted on Sep, 1 2018 @ 04:50 PM
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edit on 1-9-2018 by Kromlech because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 1 2018 @ 05:02 PM
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Lol, wake me up when they've done something against the law, that's worth losing sleep over...
edit on 1-9-2018 by Kromlech because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 1 2018 @ 05:03 PM
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a reply to: introvert

That the intolerance of the left is put on display, they are the party of division.

The solution is to let people's voice be their vote, unfortunately in Cali D is an almost automatic win.



posted on Sep, 1 2018 @ 05:03 PM
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a reply to: Kromlech

Glad you're ok with intolerance.



posted on Sep, 1 2018 @ 05:09 PM
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originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: introvert

That the intolerance of the left is put on display, they are the party of division.

The solution is to let people's voice be their vote, unfortunately in Cali D is an almost automatic win.


Really?

So the Republicans were the party of division when their leader, Trump called for a boycott of CNN? How about when he called for a boycott against the NFL? In that case, Trump called for people to be fired or suspended.

How about his call to boycott Apple?

So it appears we have a dilemma. By your own standards and the standards of others, the Republicans are the party of division and Trump is calling for authoritarian measures, which could lead to people having to wear stars, correct?



posted on Sep, 1 2018 @ 05:13 PM
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originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: M5xaz

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: M5xaz



" the head of the California Democratic Party called for a boycott of the famed burger chain after a public filing revealed that the company had recently donated $25,000 to the state’s Republican Party"


Thanks for the link.



Democrats are SEEKING TO BAN ANY FORM OF OPPOSITION.

Authoritarian much ?


Free speech is authoritarian?

That's an odd position to take.

Also, where was it stated they wanted to ban opposition?



That's the left's version of "democracy" and "free speech"....ME, ME, ME, ME!!! In power forever, unchallenged... wear you NARCICISSIM proudly...


I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion based on this.

Again, it appears you may have a twisted view on free speech.


Nope.
You're the one with a twisted view.

Freedom of speech is a principle that supports the freedom of an individual or a community to articulate their opinions and ideas without fear of retaliation, censorship, or sanction

The California Democratic Party wants In-N-Out to BE SANCTIONNED, be BOYCOTTED, merely because In-N-Out has a different political opinion and has given money to the GOP.

DEMOCRATS SUPPORT THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF FREE SPEECH

Q.E.D.


A boycott is an act of free speech.

Are you and others really setting the precedent that a boycott is an act we should act out against?

What actions should be taken against them?


You're REAL slow, aren't you ? Or do you just have projection issues ?

I have not called for retaliation against anyone. I believe you should be free to express what you want with NO FEAR OF RETALIATION - THAT, is what free speech IS !!!!

A boycott is an act of free speech, except you seem to be missing the main point that the California Democrats called for this boycott specifically against free speech for In-N-Out.

California Democrats want anyone against them sanctioned - By definition, if you want In-N-Out silenced you are AGAINST free speech.

You seem to agree with the Democrats- that makes you an authoritarian.

QED.
Again.



posted on Sep, 1 2018 @ 05:14 PM
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originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: Kromlech

Glad you're ok with intolerance.


I'm intolerant of olives, but I'm not going to have olives boycotted.



posted on Sep, 1 2018 @ 05:18 PM
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a reply to: M5xaz



You're REAL slow, aren't you ? Or do you just have projection issues ? I have not called for retaliation against anyone. I believe you should be free to express what you want with NO FEAR OF RETALIATION - THAT, is what free speech IS !!!!


Ok. So what is the problem with this?

This is their right, correct?



A boycott is an act of free speech, except you seem to be missing the main point that the California Democrats called for this boycott specifically against free speech for In-N-Out.


Again, that is their right.

Free speech is free speech, whether you agree with what they are saying or not.



California Democrats want anyone against them sanctioned - By definition, if you want In-N-Out silenced you are AGAINST free speech.


Sanctions and boycotts are two different things. You do know that, right?



You seem to agree with the Democrats- that makes you an authoritarian.


I also stood up for the right of Trump and his supporters to boycott Apple, CNN, etc.

It's sad that you think standing up for people's freedoms is authoritarian.



posted on Sep, 1 2018 @ 05:24 PM
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a reply to: introvert

Why would that be? CNN spreads division through negative and fake news. I don't think Trump ever said to boycott anything merely because they donated to Democrats.

The only way your analogy works is if you are arguing all Republicans are divisive racist Nazis, I know lots of Democrats think so, are you of that opinion?
edit on 1-9-2018 by OccamsRazor04 because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 1 2018 @ 05:26 PM
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originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: pavil

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: pavil
"Liberal" California trying to ruin a business solely for their political donations? And not even a huge donation. Remember what the same hive mind did to that pro Trump Coffee shop owner.

You may not like the Republicans and Trump, but do you really want people in power that would do such things?

"I'm sorry, you can't have your business permit, we noticed you voted in the Republican primary last time around. Sorry".

Why am I not surprised.


Individuals deciding to boycott a business is their right. That is not anything close to having the actual government refuse business permits because of their political affiliation.

Unless you have a link that shows otherwise, you are perpetuating a huge false equivalence.


Try as you might that it's not Democrats trying to do this:



"Tens of thousands of dollars donated to the California Republican Party ... it's time to #BoycottInNOut - let Trump and his cronies support these creeps... perhaps animal style!" Eric Bauman, chairman of the California Democratic Party, tweeted Thursday.


You are right......it's only the fricken CHAIRMAN of the California Democratic Party.......... he's a private citizen too!

Do you want people in elected office that wish to punish people for exercising their right to support any political party they choose?

There won't be any bias......how many times have we heard that one.



Yes, it's the chairman. I see that now.

Silly boycott in my opinion, but it is his right. Correct?

Tell me, what would you like to happen to this person because of what he said?

Please...what is your solution?




Lined up and shot of course........


Just exactly what has happened. He has been called out for his great idea. I'm glad that you have now realized it's one of the Leaders of the Democratic Party in Cali that called for this stupid boycott. Sounds like you didn't know and didn't believe me.

We are making progress............

I wonder if IN and Out will continue to donate to the Democrats after this fiasco?



posted on Sep, 1 2018 @ 05:27 PM
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a reply to: OccamsRazor04

I like it how lots of folks are attending In-N-Out to show their support for righteousness and their disdain for anti-American hatred. They did exactly the same with Chick-fil-A and it appears that both companies have reaped massive profits and lots of free advertising as the left attempts to drive a wedge into American culture, via their campaign of radical bigotry and hyper-intolerance.

I wonder which Trump will be POTUS in 2024? Jr or Ivanka?



posted on Sep, 1 2018 @ 05:33 PM
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a reply to: OccamsRazor04



Why would that be? CNN spreads division through negative and fake news. I don't think Trump ever said to boycott anything merely because they donated to Democrats.


True. Trump wanted people to boycott Apple until they agreed to break in to the iphones of American citizens.

That sounds like extortion.

www.cnn.com...



The only way your analogy works is if you are arguing all Republicans are divisive racist Nazis, I know lots of Democrats think so, are you of that opinion?


No. I do not believe that, and why I find the comments on this thread humorous.

Literally, you guys are talking in idiotic hyperbole, just like the Dems that think the Reps are Nazis.



posted on Sep, 1 2018 @ 05:35 PM
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a reply to: introvert

So you think that the California Democrats are correct to demand their opposition be silenced ?

Calling anyone that opposes them to be silenced IS NOT DEMOCRACY OR FREE SPEECH.



posted on Sep, 1 2018 @ 05:35 PM
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a reply to: pavil

So you agree this is an act of free speech and should be treated a such.

Ok. We are making progress.



posted on Sep, 1 2018 @ 05:38 PM
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a reply to: M5xaz



So you think that the California Democrats are correct to demand their opposition be silenced ?


Correct? No, but that's a matter of opinion and I did not see where they said they should be silenced.

But it is still their right to boycott, correct?



Calling anyone that opposes them to be silenced IS NOT DEMOCRACY OR FREE SPEECH.


Yes it is.

The quicker you learn that the better. Just because you don't like it, does not mean it is not free speech.



posted on Sep, 1 2018 @ 05:56 PM
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originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: M5xaz



So you think that the California Democrats are correct to demand their opposition be silenced ?


Correct? No, but that's a matter of opinion and I did not see where they said they should be silenced.

But it is still their right to boycott, correct?



Calling anyone that opposes them to be silenced IS NOT DEMOCRACY OR FREE SPEECH.


Yes it is.

The quicker you learn that the better. Just because you don't like it, does not mean it is not free speech.


The purpose of the democrats' boycott IS precisely to silence In-N-Out.

Calling for silencing the opposition is also not free speech. Read the definition.
Again.
Freedom of speech is a principle that supports the freedom of an individual or a community to articulate their opinions and ideas without fear of retaliation, censorship, or sanction (ex: boycott)



posted on Sep, 1 2018 @ 06:01 PM
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a reply to: OccamsRazor04

To heck with IN-N-Out Burgers!
Whataburger has them beat to all be all!
Dang I wish Whataburger would open up in Kentucky! Besides family it is the thing I miss most about Texas! I go there every time I get down home, usually before I even make it to see the family!



posted on Sep, 1 2018 @ 06:03 PM
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a reply to: M5xaz



The purpose of the democrats' boycott IS precisely to silence In-N-Out.


No. A boycott's purpose is to use the voice and actions of people to affect their business.



Calling for silencing the opposition is also not free speech. Read the definition. Again. Freedom of speech is a principle that supports the freedom of an individual or a community to articulate their opinions and ideas without fear of retaliation, censorship, or sanction (ex: boycott)


Well, they did not call for silencing of the opposition.

And a boycott is an expression of free speech. A decent read for you:


In America, boycotting goods as a matter of conscience or a means of effecting change is a civic tradition so old that it predates the United States itself.



This week, in Koontz v. Watson, a federal appeals court issued a ruling that advocates of broad free-speech rights can consider a resounding victory: The court granted a preliminary injunction preventing further enforcement of the Kansas law. It flatly declared that the First Amendment protects the right to participate in a boycott.


www.theatlantic.com...




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