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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Southern Guardian
So NFL players are free to kneel, but everyone else can't be free to comment (as they choose) on the kneeling.
originally posted by: soundguy
Exactly, Do you have to stand for the national anthem before you start your days work? So why do they? a reply to: Vector99
originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: Southern Guardian
NFL players are EMPLOYEES
When I watch football I don't wan't to think about politics, I want to think about football.
originally posted by: Greven
originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: Southern Guardian
NFL players are EMPLOYEES
When I watch football I don't wan't to think about politics, I want to think about football.
NFL players didn't used to be on the field during the National Anthem.
That started circa 2009, driven by DoD recruiting efforts.
they want to keep telling me how I am oppressing someone.
originally posted by: Justoneman
originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: Vector99
Think of it this way, imagine you are at a checkout stand at a grocery store, and the person checking all the items decides to take a 10 minute break and tells you that you have to just wait. Would you sit there for 10 minutes waiting?
Depends on the reason.
If it was to protest government and police violence then yes I would wait.
Well frankly,bad choices by the perps bring bad consequences.
My only problem with the attention for issues like that are that the ones they choose to use as examples are thugs doing very bad things and being dangerous and stupid. Idiots that were putting themselves in bad situations and forced a LEO to respond.
It is simple as hell, PO PO says stop, you stop. That is what my dad taught me and to be nice cause we can't fix it if I mess up and don't listen to them when they are forced to make split second decisions. Only a fool plays with fire.
If they would pick real cases where this happened instead of examples like the Travon Martin case where that person just goes ninja mode and assaulted someone, then gets killed by the victim. Or the Fergisson incident, where the fool reaches for the cops gun. Are there many real cases where the perp stood still and got shot? If so, then I am sure I could see their point and we would march with them. I don't see that a perp running from the cops and pointing weapons at them should get you a free pass from them anymore than I expect to get away with that.
originally posted by: Bluntone22
originally posted by: Greven
originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: Southern Guardian
NFL players are EMPLOYEES
When I watch football I don't wan't to think about politics, I want to think about football.
NFL players didn't used to be on the field during the National Anthem.
That started circa 2009, driven by DoD recruiting efforts.
Players are not required to be on the field now during the anthem.
NFL players weren't required to be on the field for the national anthem until 2009.
In 2012, the Department of Defense began paying NFL teams for "patriotic salutes."
NFL owners voted to settle the national anthem debate, removing a requirement for players to be on the field for the anthem, and giving players the option to stay in the locker room.
originally posted by: sligtlyskeptical
NFL is doing fine. Last year was a record year for revenue. This year will bring even higher revenue. I watch the NFL to watch football. Most of the time the anthem isn't even televised.
Tim Teebow used to kneel and pray during the anthem and no one had a problem with that, and in fact it helped elevate him to "sainthood" for many viewers.
But then again Tim Teebow wasn't black.
Most all people do not care! Standing strong against the players paints you as a racists lunatic. People do not let this issue cost you your job. In all things it is a speck of insignificance.
originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: Justoneman
I never needed someone else to give me examples of police violence.
I am a victim of it.
I have friends that are victims of it.
I just wish more people with loud voices like these players have were speaking out and protesting about it.