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Where is the "collusion" we were promised?

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posted on Aug, 31 2018 @ 02:58 PM
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CNN was recently caught lying about a source (Lanny Davis) and refusing to retract a claim even their source denied.

Officials within the legislative branch have been saying for months that indictments for "collusion" are just around the corner, yet we've seen none. Some of those officials, like Feinstein and Schiff, have made very bold and specific claims that they've seen actual evidence of this "collusion." This was months ago, and we still haven't even seen a hint of physical evidence regarding their claims.

Members of the Democratic voting bloc and television commentators alike have been sharing their opinions on the matter as well, with some going so far as to claim "collusion" is a foregone conclusion - criticizing those who deny their narrative, while ignoring the fact that Obama was original Russia meddling denier. ("Shucks, I told them to knock it off and they sure did") Some pundits - like Rachel Maddow - have become obsessed with Russia to the point they talk about it day/night 24/7/354 - they eat, sleep and breath Russia collusion conspiracy theories. No matter how many baseless leaps of faith are required ("connecting the dots" as they like to call it) and no matter how many of their sometimes-bizarre theories simply don't come to fruition, they forge on...inventing new reasons to attack the President and levy totally baseless allegations against him. To be sure, they have no real reason to believe he took part in any crime. No reason. They simply believe he's "dirty" and therefore if they are permitted to investigate him long enough/with a wide enough scope they will find *something anything* to end his Presidency early. Regardless of the actual feasibility of impeachment/conviction or the fact that a sitting President isn't going to be indicted.

The dirty dossier, dirty Clinton campaign & their control over the DNC primary, the actions of an ultra-minority of corrupt FBI/DOJ insiders coupled with a constant drip-drip of confirmation-bias-confirming leaks and a steady stream of unsupported allegations have all failed to bring Trump down. So what do they do? They pretend they didn't invent the word "collusion." They pretend they haven't been obsessing over everything-Russia-all-the-time for the last 2 years, and they pretend that some average everyday espionage is on the same scale as Pearl Harbor or WTC attacks in 2001.

But where is the "collusion" we have been promised by so many breathless politicians and pundits alike? Where is it? Why haven't we seen it yet? Why does Mueller keep specifying the fact that no Americans were involved in any crime in his indictments? Why did Mueller file a complaint about liberal MSM's fake news speculation on his investigation? Or the continuous stream of disinformation about the same?

Teal life isn't some BS Tom Clancy super top secret shadow-spy novel. Because breathless speculation and hysterical allegations do not equal actual evidence or credible allegations. The constant disinformation, lies, rumors, innuendo, weakening of our Constitutional protections, misuse of the criminal justice system, use of the military intelligence system against US Citizens domestically, and much more is causing true and immediate damage to this country.

And those participating in the spreading of this misinformation, or those who feel entitled to audaciously portray their mere personal opinions as though they were facts should be ashamed of themselves.




posted on Aug, 31 2018 @ 03:32 PM
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a reply to: JBurns

Its alright - 1000's of pages of Q threads on ATS.

"Trust the Plan"
"Huber and others have it under control"
"50,000 sealed indictments"
"Guantanamo facility has been upgraded for the extra prisoners who will be poring in"
"Q has spoken"

Business as usual in the USA


LOL



posted on Aug, 31 2018 @ 03:34 PM
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a reply to: JBurns

"Russian Collusion" was just a lie to go digging to find something to depose the president.



posted on Aug, 31 2018 @ 03:34 PM
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a reply to: JBurns


And those participating in the spreading of this misinformation, or those who feel entitled to audaciously portray their mere personal opinions as though they were facts should be ashamed of themselves.


Oh the irony.

Has it ever occurred to you that maybe, just maybe Lanny Davis is lying and switching his story up at the behest of Trump as a way to throw a punch at the media?

If it’s between believing Watergate reporter Carl Bernstein or Michael Cohens lawyer, I’m going to go with Bernstein.




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posted on Aug, 31 2018 @ 03:57 PM
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a reply to: JBurns

The collusion is in the same place where it founds its genesis: in the fevered minds of the opposition party, their complicit media analogues, and those who hang on their every assertion.
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posted on Aug, 31 2018 @ 04:21 PM
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No one would take Russian collusion seriously...



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posted on Aug, 31 2018 @ 04:25 PM
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originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: JBurns


And those participating in the spreading of this misinformation, or those who feel entitled to audaciously portray their mere personal opinions as though they were facts should be ashamed of themselves.


Oh the irony.

Has it ever occurred to you that maybe, just maybe Lanny Davis is lying and switching his story up at the behest of Trump as a way to throw a punch at the media?

If it’s between believing Watergate reporter Carl Bernstein or Michael Cohens lawyer, I’m going to go with Bernstein.





Or it could be a lot easier.

Cohen's lawyer tells the press that Cohen has dirt on Trump and wants to speak to Mueller.

Cohen's lawyer then starts a GoFundMe for Cohen.

USA Today


Within about 24 hours, Michael Cohen has raised more than $130,000 to help in his legal fight.

More than 2,000 people donated to the "Michael Cohen Truth Fund" to help the president's former lawyer and fixer. The effort was started by Cohen's lawyer, Lanny Davis.

"Michael decided to put his family and his country first. Now Michael needs your financial help – to pay his legal fees," Davis wrote on the page.

He added the fund was a "transparent trust account, with all donations going to help Michael Cohen and his family as he goes forward on his journey to tell the truth about Donald Trump."


Cohen's lawyer gets paid, then retracts his statement.

You do realize that Davis is a long-time Clinton associate and hates Trump, right?

That's what I'm going with... greed.


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posted on Aug, 31 2018 @ 04:30 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: JBurns

"Russian Collusion" was just a lie to go digging to find something to depose the president.


He specifically asked the Russians to 'meddle in the US election' on live tv, by hacking Hillary, during his presidential campaign.

One can only imagine the extent of 'collusion' Trump engaged in with the Russians behind closed doors.




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posted on Aug, 31 2018 @ 04:35 PM
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originally posted by: Subaeruginosa

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: JBurns

"Russian Collusion" was just a lie to go digging to find something to depose the president.


He specifically asked the Russians to 'meddle in the US election' on live tv, by hacking Hillary, during his presidential campaign.

One can only imagine the extent of 'collusion' Trump engaged in with the Russians behind closed doors.



He actually didn't do that at all.

He was referring to the fact that Hillary's email server was hacked by at least 5 other countries.

Then she deleted all the evidence. It was in the news... even the Deplorables caught the reference

He was joking that since she couldn't produce the emails, then certainly other countries could.

It was a joke... you missed that part too. Perhaps watch the video you posted and listen to the crowd.


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posted on Aug, 31 2018 @ 04:36 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: JBurns

"Russian Collusion" was just a lie to go digging to find something to depose the president.


Agreed and President Trump is pretty clean or they would have found something. I am glad my life will never see such scrutiny.



posted on Aug, 31 2018 @ 04:42 PM
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a reply to: Subaeruginosa


Wah.


I'd say something more, but really, you deserve a wah.



posted on Aug, 31 2018 @ 04:42 PM
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originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: JBurns

"Russian Collusion" was just a lie to go digging to find something to depose the president.


He specifically asked the Russians to 'meddle in the US election' on live tv, by hacking Hillary, during his presidential campaign.

One can only imagine the extent of 'collusion' Trump engaged in with the Russians behind closed doors.



It was a joke... you missed that part too.


Yeah, every time his own words come back to bite him in arse, it was either a joke or he misspoke... gotcha.




posted on Aug, 31 2018 @ 05:48 PM
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a reply to: Subaeruginosa

The twist on his words bark much harder than the bite of his actual comments.....but yup gotcha



posted on Aug, 31 2018 @ 06:06 PM
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I'm still waiting on this supposed bombshell over labor day weekend.

Collusion turned in to white collar crime not relevant to what this snip show was sold as.

Two years now.

The greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American public.

If there was any smoking gun Trump would have already been replaced.

It is, and has been nothing but a coup attempt manufactured by the minority party.
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posted on Aug, 31 2018 @ 06:25 PM
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It's in Iraq, right next to the WMD's



posted on Aug, 31 2018 @ 06:28 PM
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originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: JBurns

"Russian Collusion" was just a lie to go digging to find something to depose the president.


He specifically asked the Russians to 'meddle in the US election' on live tv, by hacking Hillary, during his presidential campaign.

One can only imagine the extent of 'collusion' Trump engaged in with the Russians behind closed doors.



He actually didn't do that at all.

He was referring to the fact that Hillary's email server was hacked by at least 5 other countries.

Then she deleted all the evidence. It was in the news... even the Deplorables caught the reference

He was joking that since she couldn't produce the emails, then certainly other countries could.

It was a joke... you missed that part too. Perhaps watch the video you posted and listen to the crowd.



This was actually a massive talking point by the humorless media and their lemmings at the time. I guess people still believe it. How depressing.



posted on Aug, 31 2018 @ 08:09 PM
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a reply to: Subaeruginosa

well, that would never be known......unless he was wiretapped.....
But that might be a hill some of you will die to protect. I'll wait for the facts before I grab the pitchfork.
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posted on Sep, 1 2018 @ 07:30 AM
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There is no where. It doesn't exist. Never did. Never will.

They would have leaked it as soon as it was found were it real. Therefore it doesn't exist.

The left keeps saying - dig more, dig deeper. Mueller is already so far up Trump's you know what he can't see sunshine anymore. How much farther must he go? He was/is exceeding his mandated mission.



posted on Sep, 1 2018 @ 08:10 AM
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The collision you were promised does not exist.

The collision that happened was between the fbi, Clinton's, obama, and hundreds of others sitting in seats of power within our government, working together and with outside forces to overthrow our election process.
Unfortunately, these are many of the same people we pay to prevent and expose exactly that- and all along they've been destroying the evidence, working tirelessly to cover up their treason.



posted on Sep, 1 2018 @ 08:44 AM
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originally posted by: JBurns
CNN was recently caught lying about a source (Lanny Davis) and refusing to retract a claim even their source denied.

Officials within the legislative branch have been saying for months that indictments for "collusion" are just around the corner, yet we've seen none. Some of those officials, like Feinstein and Schiff, have made very bold and specific claims that they've seen actual evidence of this "collusion." This was months ago, and we still haven't even seen a hint of physical evidence regarding their claims.

Members of the Democratic voting bloc and television commentators alike have been sharing their opinions on the matter as well, with some going so far as to claim "collusion" is a foregone conclusion - criticizing those who deny their narrative, while ignoring the fact that Obama was original Russia meddling denier. ("Shucks, I told them to knock it off and they sure did") Some pundits - like Rachel Maddow - have become obsessed with Russia to the point they talk about it day/night 24/7/354 - they eat, sleep and breath Russia collusion conspiracy theories. No matter how many baseless leaps of faith are required ("connecting the dots" as they like to call it) and no matter how many of their sometimes-bizarre theories simply don't come to fruition, they forge on...inventing new reasons to attack the President and levy totally baseless allegations against him. To be sure, they have no real reason to believe he took part in any crime. No reason. They simply believe he's "dirty" and therefore if they are permitted to investigate him long enough/with a wide enough scope they will find *something anything* to end his Presidency early. Regardless of the actual feasibility of impeachment/conviction or the fact that a sitting President isn't going to be indicted.

The dirty dossier, dirty Clinton campaign & their control over the DNC primary, the actions of an ultra-minority of corrupt FBI/DOJ insiders coupled with a constant drip-drip of confirmation-bias-confirming leaks and a steady stream of unsupported allegations have all failed to bring Trump down. So what do they do? They pretend they didn't invent the word "collusion." They pretend they haven't been obsessing over everything-Russia-all-the-time for the last 2 years, and they pretend that some average everyday espionage is on the same scale as Pearl Harbor or WTC attacks in 2001.

But where is the "collusion" we have been promised by so many breathless politicians and pundits alike? Where is it? Why haven't we seen it yet? Why does Mueller keep specifying the fact that no Americans were involved in any crime in his indictments? Why did Mueller file a complaint about liberal MSM's fake news speculation on his investigation? Or the continuous stream of disinformation about the same?

Teal life isn't some BS Tom Clancy super top secret shadow-spy novel. Because breathless speculation and hysterical allegations do not equal actual evidence or credible allegations. The constant disinformation, lies, rumors, innuendo, weakening of our Constitutional protections, misuse of the criminal justice system, use of the military intelligence system against US Citizens domestically, and much more is causing true and immediate damage to this country.

And those participating in the spreading of this misinformation, or those who feel entitled to audaciously portray their mere personal opinions as though they were facts should be ashamed of themselves.



Did you really just state this oxymoronic phrase? Really?

"those who feel entitled to audaciously portray their mere personal opinions as though they were facts should be ashamed of themselves"...do you realize what you said???

Where are the "tax" returns Mr. Prez? "AMERICA FIRST"?...It's "TRUMP FIRST" according to him... "BELIEVE ME!! "



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