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originally posted by: steamiron
a reply to: Deetermined
Female black Dem. She must be a bad judge.
originally posted by: generik
so your home is robbed, your wife raped and badly beaten. you call the police. they come, they do their job, they arrest the suspect. yet the prosecutor decides not to even accept the case. and so the felon is just let go free?
just because you had the bad luck to have the police officers that were sent to deal with the crime are blacklisted?
sounds like a situation that can easily result in vigilantism. and the thing is the vigilante would actually be in the right, in this type of situation, to take justice into their own hands because the legal system refuses to do their jobs.
i am sorry but not just no, but HELL NO to a prosecutor being allowed to discriminate over what cases get to be taken to court, based upon solely the police officers involved.
if there is an issue with certain police officers, then those police officers in question need to be taken off duty (NO PAY, loss of benifets and pensions), and be propperly investigated for wrongdoing. if they are indeed found guilty of crimes, then they should of course be charged and prosecuted for those crimes. if they are found not to have done anything, then their jobs can be regained with back pay and restoration of pensions and benifets. that is the propper way to deal with the situation. not a prosecutor deciding to prosecute crimes based upon the police officers involved.
originally posted by: kelbtalfenek
a reply to: Boadicea
That speaks to 2 things: Prosecutor's conviction percentage and the integrity of the police department.
They should be the "good guys" and they should arrest the "bad guys." Instead it seems that they tend to create the bad guys, or create situations in which they can arrest or execute citizens to keep themselves in power.
It really speaks to the human condition when people are deathly afraid of law enforcement officers, to the point of not calling them when a suspected crime is in progress. Quite sad really.
originally posted by: zosimov
a reply to: Boadicea
From the information in OP and source, this seems to be warrented and an excellent step toward ensuring real justice! Good news for everybody except the crooked cops (as you mentioned this is exactly what the good LEOs need).
Thanks for posting, Boadicea.
originally posted by: Deetermined
Here's the thing about St. Louis. The entire city from top to bottom is one huge embarrassment to the state of Missouri. Including the area's representatives in state government and in our U.S. Congress. You can't trust any of them. They probably all deserve each other.
originally posted by: JHumm
If one of these " good cops" knows what the "bad cops " are doing and don't stop them or report them are they still good cops?
The getaway driver is just as guilty as the robber who shoots someone, isn't this pretty much the same?
originally posted by: TheLead
a reply to: Boadicea
This should inevitably bring about position changes and or firing of these officers I assume, as in this or their negligence impacts the importance of their jobs?
This sounds like it needs to go the federal or the state court and should be brought by a suit from the citizens themselves; the ones suffering due to the lack of professionalism and ability to carry out their jobs as civil servants.
originally posted by: Boadicea
But for me, the more important point, is that a prosecutor does have the power and authority to refuse cases from LEOs whose conduct jeopardizes legitimate cases... and/or who bring illegitimate cases to her office for prosecution. Of course it can be abused, and perhaps Ms. Gardner is, but it is a valuable tool when used rightfully.
It sure as hell should!!! Unfortunately, I don't think we can count on that. The union is already working on behalf of the officers -- as if their rights are being compromised, and not the rights (and safety) of the people.
originally posted by: TonyS
a reply to: Boadicea
There is a bit more to this story than meets the eye.
If you read between the lines and follow the bread crumbs, you can figure out the real problem.
worldpopulationreview.com...
Demographics of St. Louis which BTW has been losing population since 1940, and now has less than half the population it did in 1940.
Demographics of St. Louis Police Dept.
www.nytimes.com...
Pretty much the Ferguson problem all over again.