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From the latest data written over every single bit but not the data that is in between the tracks. You should have read the thread before you jumped in.
An analogy here would be like taking puzzle pieces from thousands of puzzles, dumping them on the floor and hosing them down until all the edges get mushy, randomly throwing away a bunch of pieces and then trying to piece what's left back together to make individual puzzles and then hoping any resulting puzzle (which will be full of holes) is something of interest.
This is a wholly absurd argument. If the FBI had gotten the physical drives, the chances that they would have attempted any such recovery are pretty much zero.
originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: whargoul
So you admit that it "maybe" should have been the FBI to copy the server, but it was ok for crowdstrike because they hd contracts for the fbi.
But as I understand it crowdstrike had been paid by the DNC to work security for them for a while, so in a sense it was servers thay were in charge of defending that were attacked.
So allowing them to "work the crime scene" on behalf of the FBI would be like having a cop whose wife was killed work the crime scene there.
This should never happen because they are too close to the case and have biases.
In addition, we know the DNC had incentive to blame russia. We know that crowdstrike had blamed russia in other hacks and were wrong.
And again, this gives the appearance of bias or negligence bu the fbi, and they knew that it would. And yet for conveneince sake, they decided that the publics trust in them were worth sacarificing some to not spen a little more time and effort.
Funny, they dont seem to be concerned about time and effort when it comes to going after trump.
Desperately clinging to this "but the servers!" talking point in an effort to continue believing that CrowdStrike fabricated everything is wanton willful ignorance.
Thank you for your input as always.
However, I must say that this post mostly seems unresponsive to anything in the OP.
The same here. Just because Russia was doing this stiff in in 2015 doesnt mean there were the source for the hack of the wikileaks dump.
originally posted by: verschickter
a reply to: whargoul
Imagine you write stuff on a sheet of paper with removeable ink on a typewriter. The paper is your harddrive. Now let´s say you wrote 5 pages on that single sheet of paper. Each time you reset the paper you wrote on to the top, you erase all the written ink letters so you have a "clean" sheet of paper. Now you copy the sheet of paper with a scanner/copy machine and send it away. Your original paper will still hold the imprints from all the other times you wrote. The copy will not.
What crowdstrike did was SCAN THE PAPER and that´s BY FAR not what´s really recoverable on the disk. The FBI should have got the original, not a cheap photocopy. Try to understand that.