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I met John McCain for the first time in the courtyard of the Hanoi Hilton, 47 years ago. I considered him a friend until his death. We frequently disagreed on political policies and tactics, but I have known few men whom I have respected as much as John McCain. My respect was based on the circumstances under which I met him. In 1970, I was one of 57 American prisoners of war (POWs) held at a camp 25 miles northwest of Hanoi, called Son Tay.
Unlike our earlier stay, this time, we were in large cells, and we met POWs we hadn't come across before. We immediately began to organize. We established communication throughout the camp and began holding classes of every kind as well as religious services. On January 1, 1971, our captors announced that we could not continue to hold these services.
After taking away the senior four men in that cell, that left Air Force colonel George E. "Bud" Day as the senior man. Bud was the most decorated warrior in American history and no shrinking violet. But even he was not the leading troublemaker in that cell. That was John McCain.
We knew that the next provocation was likely to initiate serious retaliation. Nevertheless, at 10:00 the next morning, the men in Room 7 sang "Onward Christian Soldiers" at the top of their lungs. This was open defiance of camp regulations. At noon, they sang every verse of "The Battle Hymn of the Republic."
By tapping on the wall, the men next door told us that the singing had been organized not by Bud Day, but by John McCain.
That night, March 19, 1971, they took 36 of us out of our cells after dark and seated us in the courtyard. Our arms were tied behind us, our hands were tied in front of us, and we were blindfolded. The man next to me nudged me and said, "Who are you?" "I am Jim Warner. Who are you?" He replied, "I'm John McCain."
He also muttered a line from the poem "Horatius at the Bridge" in Macaulay's Lays of Ancient Rome: "How better for man to die than in facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers and the altars of his gods."
originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: CharlesT
Of course John McCain should be remembered for his actions while in the military.
That being said, his military career shouldn't make us gloss over his political career.
I have heard it said that during the presidential election where he was the republican "rino" of the hour, that most people that voted republican were "voting for palin and a heart attack"
originally posted by: CharlesT
originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: CharlesT
Of course John McCain should be remembered for his actions while in the military.
That being said, his military career shouldn't make us gloss over his political career.
I have heard it said that during the presidential election where he was the republican "rino" of the hour, that most people that voted republican were "voting for palin and a heart attack"
Problem is there has been so much unsubstantiated slander posted here and just maybe, members here should forgo posting if they are not doing so with solid evidence to back their claims. I'm guilty of that as well. I have harbored a negative opinion of McCain in the past but it is mostly an ignorant opinion that is based mostly on hearsay rather than factual evidence. Yes, he was a rino in the Senate that supported ever conflict but I think his time as a POW drove him insane to the point of doing all he could to crush any opponent he foresaw to be an enemy or threat to the US. Was he a perfect saint, of the Devil incarnate? Probably neither! As we all, he was a man influenced be his life experiences and I can only wonder how I would have turned out if I had been in his situation. I was in the AF during that period but I was sent to Iceland instead. Often wish I had experienced Vietnam first hand. It may have made profound changes in my life as well.
originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: CharlesT
He went against Donald Trump, so everything else he’s ever done has been invalidated.
Welcome to 2018.
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: CharlesT
He went against Donald Trump, so everything else he’s ever done has been invalidated.
Welcome to 2018.
I never thought I was see a comment this daft. I was wrong.
It was 100% true. It's a shame you can't see that.
originally posted by: Jefferton
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: CharlesT
He went against Donald Trump, so everything else he’s ever done has been invalidated.
Welcome to 2018.
I never thought I was see a comment this daft. I was wrong.
It was 100% true. It's a shame you can't see that.
originally posted by: Jefferton
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: CharlesT
He went against Donald Trump, so everything else he’s ever done has been invalidated.
Welcome to 2018.
I never thought I was see a comment this daft. I was wrong.
It was 100% true. It's a shame you can't see that.